Big Turk Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 As it always seems to be for Bills' fans, there is always something negative to draw - KC looked very good, good enough that their 1st round pick is unlikely to be very helpful in trading up for a QB in 2018. Looks like unless the Bills are bad enough to earn a top 3 pick on their own, the QB problem will persist beyond next year. It's week one. Overreactions abound...Bills were going to the Super bowl after stomping the Pats 31-0...we all know how that turned out. Chiefs will be what they usually are...a 9 to 11 win team that gets bounced in the first or second round of the playoffs and New England will be what it usually is, a team that goes to the super bowl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Well, I don't think they had a gameplan for Kareem Hunt. Dude looked like Marshall Faulk out there. Tyreek was amazing. He's certainly took the next step from gadget player. Edited September 8, 2017 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 No way to just assume they are vulnerable but they were bad. No Welker really hurts them. Brady was off. The line didn't run block. Hogan did nothing. Defense was very vulnerable. They were out coached of all things. They really had no answers on offense or defense. It's just one game. I'm just assuming it's an aberration. The playcalling too - 2 4th and a half yard plays and they run it up the gut with the halfback, which is the easiest play to stop in that situation?? They deserved to lose with those calls. BB wanted to win now, so he gives up draft picks to stock his current roster to get a shot at another ring. I would LOVE it if they limp to 8-8 or worse AND they mortgaged the future. Karma MF'er. Â There is no karmic payback if you've already won five super bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir andrew Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'll admit that I was floored every time Marsha got beat up and also with the final score. I think, though, that more should be said about the Chiefs coaching than how "bad" the pats looked. I am always amazed how seemingly outgunned or out-manned the Chiefs are and somehow they hang with you and capitalize on any mistake you make. The Pats* should have been up by two touchdowns in the first 5 minutes of the game. Andy Reid is a quality coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Bills could play the exact same game and very easily lose 37-28 with a couple different bounces of the ball (*cough* refs *cough*). At least we don't have to live that until December! Enjoy the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 It's a match up league. Â Playmakers are key. Who do we have as a playmaker in the passing game besides maybe McCoy? That teams have to game plan for? No one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 undefeated is not a goal of NFL teams, it's HFA for the playoffs, nobody cares about undefeated seasons  sometimes it can't be helped and you get a team that is so excellent and healthy that it seems they can't even dog away a few losses  2nd in the AFC East will have 6 or 7 wins, so the Pats can coast to the division with a 10-6 record and a ton of Belichick thinking to get them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 This loss does remove the annoying, season long string of "Pats are going to go undefeated" boasts by the talking heads on ESPN and NFLN. That makes me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Another loss to the Chiefs with the Universe crowing about how the Pats are now finished, maybe Brady is on the trading blocks again??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Every one is high on last nights game. Â Hubris. Â Keep it grounded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Meh.. who cares, it's week one, lots of crazy things happen...would you bet $1000 if these teams meet in the playoffs the end result would be the same? Hell no...Chiefs would get curb stomped. Brady is 40. His arm might be **** by the playoffs. He isn't a god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Gronk looked like he was slow and old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devldog131 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Listened to 98.5 the Sports Hub on the way into work this morning (because it's always so entertaining when Boston loses) and heard a great analogy for the events in Foxborough last night. Â Between the hype, the banner, and the celebration, the Patriots were Apollo Creed coming out for his fight with Ivan Drago in Rocky IV, dancing and having a great time stroking his own ego. The Chiefs were Ivan Drago, standing in the ring watching in disgust as it all went on around him. Â I think we all know how that ended up... Â "If he dies, he dies." Â Edited September 8, 2017 by devldog131 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'd say the Patriots are going to have issues on defense this season but... it's Bellichick and he'll make adjustments to hide their weaknesses. They may struggle up front, though. Their front seven isn't very good, they don't have any solid pass rushers and they'll be hurting more if Hightower has to miss significant time. They're pretty good in the secondary but yeah, it feels like they may struggle. Â And offensively, Brady looked inaccurate on throws he routinely makes. Gronk appeared to get hurt on that non-TD catch in the first quarter. But again, it's the Pats, they'll adjust and I'm gonna bet they'll roast New Orleans next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The Pat's D couldn't solve Alex Smith and K. Hunt. Good luck against TT and Shady--or Big Ben and Bell. Or Carr and whatever RB they use that game. Â The Pat's O could't do ANYTHING when KC shut-down the intermediate routes. Brady could dance all day and still miss people. Â KC's WR's are equal to or worse than ours. Â This wasn't good players getting beat. This was a sub=par roster. Hopefully the Pats hubris will catch up to them. Maybe Clay too.Its why I have such a big issue with the Watkins trade. Makes me think these guys don't have a pulse on the league or they are so egotistical they don't want anything to do with the previous regimes drafted players, no matter how good.None of which are good. Â Not worried about Watkins. Matthews, Clay, and Zay are plenty. Oh, also, Shady. We have more offensive talent than KC. (including our line.) Â I'm more worried about our ability to take away the intermediate passes that Brady and the Pats live on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I pity the fool who plays them next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) The Pat's D couldn't solve Alex Smith and K. Hunt. Good luck against TT and Shady--or Big Ben and Bell. Or Carr and whatever RB they use that game. Â The Pat's O could't do ANYTHING when KC shut-down the intermediate routes. Brady could dance all day and still miss people. Â KC's WR's are equal to or worse than ours. Â This wasn't good players getting beat. This was a sub=par roster. Hopefully the Pats hubris will catch up to them. Â Â Not worried about Watkins. Matthews, Clay, and Zay are plenty. Oh, also, Shady. We have more offensive talent than KC. (including our line.) Â I'm more worried about our ability to take away the intermediate passes that Brady and the Pats live on. The point that Scott and I were both making is that chunk plays killed the Pats. KC has guys that you have to game plan for. The Bills only have Shady at this point. We have guys that are pretty good football players but not guys that can hurt you. Sammy can hurt you. Tyreke Hill can hurt you. Kelce can hurt you. Teams scheme for those guys. Speed kills!! You can't plan on 15 play drives to score every drive. The numbers don't support that. It's like needing 3 hits in an inning to score a run. It's not a sustainable recipe for success. You need some big plays and you need some home runs. The Chiefs did it all night. Edited September 8, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I give more props to KC, that defense looks legit but huge blow losing Eric Berry probably for the season with a torn achilles. The corners were right up on the WR's and if you have a dominant S like Berry that's what you need to do against Gronk also, I don't think we have the secondary yet to do what KC did but that should be the formula for the season stopping the Pats for the better teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Maybe Clay too. Â Its why I have such a big issue with the Watkins trade. Makes me think these guys don't have a pulse on the league or they are so egotistical they don't want anything to do with the previous regimes drafted players, no matter how good. Â None of which are good. The trade was to get something for Watkins rather than losing him with no compensation at the end of this season. I have no doubt that they knew that they were accepting a downgrade at WR when they made that trade, but they knew that he hey were unlikely to make the playoffs this year with or without Watkins, so we're happy to pocket the draft pick and what looks like a competent CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The trade was to get something for Watkins rather than losing him with no compensation at the end of this season. I have no doubt that they knew that they were accepting a downgrade at WR when they made that trade, but they knew that he hey were unlikely to make the playoffs this year with or without Watkins, so we're happy to pocket the draft pick and what looks like a competent CB.Or they could have just kept him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Or they could have just kept him? Yes, they could have paid him $13M per season or more. They obviously determined that his injuries vs that kind of dough didn't warrant keeping him. If they had paid him and he missed several games and was ineffective due to injuries, people would be hollering what a stupid contact that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Yes, they could have paid him $13M per season or more. They obviously determined that his injuries vs that kind of dough didn't warrant keeping him. If they had paid him and he missed several games and was ineffective due to injuries, people would be hollering what a stupid contact that was.And if they paid him that and he turned into the star that his talent suggests it was a great decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) so does the madden cover have anything to do with it? Edited September 8, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I couldn't think of a better way to start the NFL season. I absolutely love watching NE get beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I couldn't think of a better way to start the NFL season. I absolutely love watching NE get beat. I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDO'Kearney Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I couldn't think of a better way to start the NFL season. I absolutely love watching NE get beat. "We're on to New Orleans." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Kansas City came out after the 3rd quarter and punched NE in the mouth. They cudnt get it together after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDO'Kearney Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Kansas City came out after the 3rd quarter and punched NE in the mouth. They cudnt get it together after that. "We're on to New Orleans" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Â Â Â Caption this. My entry: "have you ever really LOOKED at your hand?" Edited September 8, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) i wouldn't take a high draft pick over that game. Not a chance in hell. Â I would because in the end it's irrelevant to how the Pats will finish at the end of the year, they are winning the division by default this year, so even if they are 9-7 who cares, they still are in the playoffs. But they won't be 9-7 because they never are. In the meantime, the draft pick is not irrelevant and has the ability to be a key to our future. Edited September 8, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Â Â Caption this. My entry: "have you ever really LOOKED at your hand?" If I tattooed a cleat mark on my hand, I can cry to the refs all the time! Â or... Â Ok, clutch is pushed in now put it in 2nd..... no 1st gear. Edited September 8, 2017 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Forgive me for not reading through this entire thread, but I read on NFL.com that Brady was pretty pissed after the game because of team attitude, etc. Â Not surprisingly, Brady was seething when it was over. It is a rare game in which the Patriots are embarrassed. And after an offseason of celebrating a comeback that added to the legend of this team's competitive will, this was a particularly harsh dose of reality and a reminder that nothing carries over from one season to the next. "We have to be a lot better in a lot of areas, starting with our attitude and our competitiveness," Brady said, before he was asked to elaborate. Â "I just think we need to have more urgency and perform a lot better," he continued. "A winning attitude and a championship attitude, you need to bring it every day. We had it handed to us on our own field. It's a terrible feeling. We've got to dig deep, a lot deeper than we did tonight. We didn't dig very deep tonight." Â Anyone hear who he was specifically referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaL0L0k0 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 As it always seems to be for Bills' fans, there is always something negative to draw - KC looked very good, good enough that their 1st round pick is unlikely to be very helpful in trading up for a QB in 2018. Looks like unless the Bills are bad enough to earn a top 3 pick on their own, the QB problem will persist beyond next year. OldTimer, with due respect, how come you mentioned we Bills fans have always ¨something negative to draw¨, and then you finish your sentence, with an assumption that we have a problem at QB, before the guy we have at the position has even taken his 1st snap under a new GM, and full coaches team, wow! how´s that for negative itself, mister?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 so does the madden cover have anything to with it? yes, yea, and yup!  the Madden curse is real. mark my words. OldTimer, with due respect, how come you mentioned we Bills fans have always ¨something negative to draw¨, and then you finish your sentence, with an assumption that we have a problem at QB, before the guy we have at the position has even taken his 1st snap under a new GM, and full coaches team, wow! how´s that for negative itself, mister?... well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Only one game, but it looks like the Pats have BIG problems on defense, especially if Hightower misses any sort of time. Â Of course, they could soon have big problems on offense too, if Amendola is out for a while too, so cheers to that. They have big problems at WR also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The hoodies' post game was priceless. What a great start to opening day weekend. I really want to declare doom and gloom for the putridiots*** but will hold off till Breese is done with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devldog131 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Couldn't help but LMAO at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Â Wrinkles? I've got wrinkles on my skin!!! #OverTheHill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Win % in September for Pats under Belichick is 65%. Remember when the Bills shut them out in the opener with Milloy? Boy, we thought the Bills were on their way. How'd that season end up? Pats won the SB. So as much as I delighted in seeing the arrogant Pats get knocked down a peg, I am a long way from writing them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Win % in September for Pats under Belichick is 65%. Remember when the Bills shut them out in the opener with Milloy? Boy, we thought the Bills were on their way. How'd that season end up? Pats won the SB. So as much as I delighted in seeing the arrogant Pats get knocked down a peg, I am a long way from writing them off.Didn't they start that season 0-5 and then win out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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