bmur66 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) http://buffalonews.com/2017/08/31/cameron-jefferson-heckled-bills-fan-fist-roster-spot-remain-air/ It's the National Anthem. Stand and show your respect. It's not a time to call attention to yourself or whatever your individual cause is. This is probably the only time you will hear that guys name other than on the cut list. If you don't know what to do during the National Anthem look at Eric Wood in the photo. I swear if any Bills player doesn't stand for the National Anthem and the team does nothing about it I will not support this team any longer. Who is with me? Edited September 1, 2017 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Not me. Universal Standing for the aanthem never started in the NFL until 2009. So did you still support the 90s teams when they did other things instead if standing Edited September 1, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/195491-should-the-nfl-do-away-with-the-national-anthem/ https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/187980-kaepernick-and-the-national-anthem/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Not me. Universal Standing for the aanthem never started in the NFL until 2009. So did you still support the 90s teams when they did other things instead if standing Really? I never noticed. It wasn't an issue back then. If someone was doing something else I don't think it was protesting. I will always stand for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 http://buffalonews.com/2017/08/31/cameron-jefferson-heckled-bills-fan-fist-roster-spot-remain-air/ It's the National Anthem. Stand and show your respect. It's not a time to call attention to yourself or whatever your individual cause is. This is probably the only time you will hear that guys name other than on the cut list. If you don't know what to do during the National Anthem look at Eric Wood in the photo. I swear if any Bills player doesn't stand for the National Anthem and the team does nothing about it I will not support this team any longer. Who is with me? He's standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Really? I never noticed. It wasn't an issue back then. If someone was doing something else I don't think it was protesting. I will always stand for it. Ahhh so the reality is then you have an issue with their protest. Yep and also not covered relentlessly by Media Types weird huh? Edited September 1, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 There is nothing more American than having the ability to stand up for what you believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Not me. The man has the right to protest. He's doing it peacefully and he's not violating any NFL rule (as far as I know.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 At least twice, a fan behind Jefferson screamed "We're gonna cut you, 60!" as Williamsville East senior Olivia Notaro sang in front of the color guard from JROTC Leadership Academy for Young Men. The scene was captured by Thad Brown, sports director of Rochester's WROC-TV, on the Bills' sideline. Jefferson heard the ridicule. He did not reply. He kept his black-and-white gloved fist aloft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I don't see why people care...some are kneeling, some are raising their arms....it's not like they're turning their back to the flag or giving the finger....what about fans in the stands, drinking, talking and shouting during the anthem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandBillsFan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm with Nucci. As long as they are not doing anything disrespectful who cares. The media covering (and us discussing it) seems like a waste of time over a non story. And to Nuccis point: out of the 65,000 fans in RWS on any Sunday I would say about 12,500 are either talking, wearing a hat, or sitting. Should we start berating them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sorry not with you, So your upset that a guy raised his arm during the national anthem in silent protest? The best part is the way the media is covering this. They refuse to talk about why Jefferson had his arm raised in the first place and only talk about the act of what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Not me. Universal Standing for the aanthem never started in the NFL until 2009. So did you still support the 90s teams when they did other things instead if standing Ha ha, perfectly played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandBillsFan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 @JR. We need an audio signal to tell us to get a beer and head to our seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 There is nothing more American than having the ability to stand up for what you believe in.Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I don't understand why they even play the national anthem before sporting events. What's the logic behind it? The Olympics-- yes, I can see it. An NFL game-- huh? this is my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 At least twice, a fan behind Jefferson screamed "We're gonna cut you, 60!" as Williamsville East senior Olivia Notaro sang in front of the color guard from JROTC Leadership Academy for Young Men. The scene was captured by Thad Brown, sports director of Rochester's WROC-TV, on the Bills' sideline. Jefferson heard the ridicule. He did not reply. He kept his black-and-white gloved fist aloft. this passes for news? a fan behind a guy yelled he was gonna get cut from the team football team? is it newsworthy because the yeller was disrespectful to the yellee during the anthem? why not just write this, and publish it after every game: Somebody was an a%%hole to someone else on Sunday. In related news, lots of people were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) There is nothing more American than having the ability to stand up for what you believe in.They have the right to express themselves however they want. However I'm always a little confused at these type of things as if all across the nation white people are suddenly running around killing black people. Latest statistics show 83% of White Homicides are Whites killed by other Whites while 89% of Black homicides are Blacks killed by other Blacks. In the inner cities the Blacks killed by other Blacks number jumps to mid 90s%...where is the outrage about this? Maybe everyone should be focusing on he real problem, not the one the media tries to force feed and in some ways create by their biased coverage or lack there of depending on how they want to spin things? Edited September 1, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Meh. The last thing a team needs is to be an !@#$ to some guy who does something like this. As long as the NFL allows it he can do it. He isn't exactly the first one to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 http://buffalonews.com/2017/08/31/cameron-jefferson-heckled-bills-fan-fist-roster-spot-remain-air/ It's the National Anthem. Stand and show your respect. It's not a time to call attention to yourself or whatever your individual cause is. This is probably the only time you will hear that guys name other than on the cut list. If you don't know what to do during the National Anthem look at Eric Wood in the photo. I swear if any Bills player doesn't stand for the National Anthem and the team does nothing about it I will not support this team any longer. Who is with me? Im definitely not with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 So care Very disgust Much angry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Meh. The last thing a team needs is to be an !@#$ to some guy who does something like this. As long as the NFL allows it he can do it. He isn't exactly the first one to do it. Sure that really is the last thing the NFL needs. Ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Not with you. I believe in separation of church and state. The anthem is state and football the religion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I don't understand why they even play the national anthem before sporting events. What's the logic behind it? The Olympics-- yes, I can see it. An NFL game-- huh? Even more perplexing is God Bless America during the 7th inning stretch. A. It's not the national anthem and B. Steinbrenner only started doing it to drag out the middle of the inning and ice the opposing pitcher. Patriotism was a convenient excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Constitutional Right vs Someone elses Views Hmmm hard decision nah not really side with the Constitution every time. Even more perplexing is God Bless America during the 7th inning stretch. A. It's not the national anthem and B. Steinbrenner only started doing it to drag out the middle of the inning and ice the opposing pitcher. Patriotism was a convenient excuse. Well way in the early days the Anthem was played during the 7th inning stretch actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I don't understand why they even play the national anthem before sporting events. What's the logic behind it? The Olympics-- yes, I can see it. An NFL game-- huh? I agree take the anthem out of the NFL, there really is no need for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 http://buffalonews.com/2017/08/31/cameron-jefferson-heckled-bills-fan-fist-roster-spot-remain-air/ It's the National Anthem. Stand and show your respect. It's not a time to call attention to yourself or whatever your individual cause is. This is probably the only time you will hear that guys name other than on the cut list. If you don't know what to do during the National Anthem look at Eric Wood in the photo. I swear if any Bills player doesn't stand for the National Anthem and the team does nothing about it I will not support this team any longer. Who is with me? I didn't realize how conservative Buffalo was until I got out. From the outside looking in, the place is just filled with old, antiquated people and ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 There is nothing more American than having the ability to stand up for what you believe in. Owners have a right to stand up for what they believe in too. Cut his ass. I agree take the anthem out of the NFL, there really is no need for it. Time for you to move to another country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Owners have a right to stand up for what they believe in too. Cut his ass. Time for you to move to another country. Yes we know the NFL is filled with ultra conservative owners. At the end he likely will be cut. But not because of his protest but he just isnt that good of an OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Not a big deal, move along. Only idiots are fans who make cats calls... idits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sure that really is the last thing the NFL needs. Ha ha ha What, you want a BLM protest outside the stadium next Sunday? I'm not saying they should or shouldn't cut him or whatever, but imagine the press if the Bills said "hey, as your employer we're saying you can't do that on the clock anymore." That may be well within their rights, but that doesn't mean they should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Owners have a right to stand up for what they believe in too. Cut his ass. Time for you to move to another country. I would LOVE for Zay or Shady to do this and see how many fans turn on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 EASY SOLUTION: Play the National anthem for the fans prior to the players coming out onto the field. Then, with the crowd on their feet and cheering, introduce the players and run them out onto the field. No more controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) This is America, not North Korea. You can do whatever you want during our anthem. He isn't making a scene just standing and putting his fist in the air. Who really cares. Everyone's offended by everything these days. Edited September 1, 2017 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 What, you want a BLM protest outside the stadium next Sunday? I'm not saying they should or shouldn't cut him or whatever, but imagine the press if the Bills said "hey, as your employer we're saying you can't do that on the clock anymore." That may be well within their rights, but that doesn't mean they should do it. Yeah because this directly leads to a BLM protest outside the stadium doesnt it. Ooo even if it does guess what they have a right to that protest. Just like the wannabe diabetes brigades due protecting the White Supremacist groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Yeah because this directly leads to a BLM protest outside the stadium doesnt it. Ooo even if it does guess what they have a right to that protest. Just like the wannabe diabetes brigades due protecting the White Supremacist groups Do you get paid for missing the point or is it more of a hobby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Do you get paid for missing the point or is it more of a hobby? What is the point. Dont try to tell me it is disrespectful to the military or nation Edited September 1, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Yes we know the NFL is filled with ultra conservative owners. At the end he likely will be cut. But not because of his protest but he just isnt that good of an OT It's not about "conservative", it is about patriotism, love of the country and respect. These players little stunts do nothing for their cause. Their is a time and place for discussion of ideas. The National Anthem is about honoring our Country and remembering the cost of their freedom to act stupid. Peoples lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Mods move this too the political thread... wannabe politicos taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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