CanadianFan Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Caught this on twitter: Polian's seen saying Chad Kelly's the most talented QB on Broncos' roster, and Herm Edwards seem to agree. They both also agree he has "A LOT OF " growing up to do. Ah talent, and its fruitful realization, two distinct things. Let's see if they come together for Chad over the next season or two. @ <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Just rewatched NFL Live and caught this gem: per analysts: the most talented QB in Denver isn't Lynch or Siemian. Watch this👇 pic.twitter.com/YmufgXUbmt — Dianna Russini (@diannaESPN) July 20, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Here we go again... He should have no problem beating Lynch for the starting job. Dude hasn't even taken a practice snap yet! Edited July 20, 2017 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 That's not a hard sell. Siemen, a pirate, or Kelly? I'm taking CK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Yeah, I'm sure Polian isn't letting his personal feelings get into the way. He also thought his son was going to be a great GM. Polian is the best GM in team history but he seems a little off lately. P.s. What does talented even mean? D'Rick Rogers was a lot more talented than Chris Hogan. How's that working out? Edited July 20, 2017 by C.Biscuit97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Sure he is. But look at the competition. I think he's more talented than the kid from nortwestern - of course he is. Doesn't mean much though in the NFL because it takes so much more than talent to have success. I give Lynch the edge over Chad but don't love him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 It wouldn't shock me if Kelly turns into and all-pro but it also wouldn't shock me if he turned into a complete bust too. Low risk (Mr. Irrelevant in the draft) and potentially a high reward guy for the Broncos. As fun as it would have been if the Bills had taken him in the last round I think both the Bills and Chad are better off with him playing somewhere else. The interesting thing is that although he has been humbled by his fall in the draft I get the sense that if he got the chance to play and started getting attention his ego would grow and he would do the same stupid things he did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Peterman better turn out better than Chad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Polian says a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Smh. Just another qb ignored by the retread factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeckBeard Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Chad Kelly could turn out to be a good player, but my opinion remains the same. If he was a Joe Blow, or a Ryan Leaf, or something other than a Kelly, most Bills fans would not bat an eyelash that he's not on this team. While maybe the Bills missed on some kind of late-born, transcendent talent, I'd rather that they right the ship and to start winning games than to take another risk. Moral victories like diamond-in-the-rough types of players, or guys who outplayed their draft value and got a second lucrative second contract are nice stories, but I'd choose 10-6 and going deep into the playoffs over moral victories any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Yeah, I'm sure Polian isn't letting his personal feelings get into the way. He also thought his son was going to be a great GM. Polian is the best GM in team history but he seems a little off lately. P.s. What does talented even mean? D'Rick Rogers was a lot more talented than Chris Hogan. How's that working out? Agreed. And to add Cardale Jones and Tyrod are more physically talented then maybe all other NFL QB's. Same with M. Goodwin with WR's. Polian must clarify if he means physical, mental, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 something was said...now i'm angry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeckBeard Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 something was said...now i'm angry! WHY DO I ALWAYS FEEL THIS WAY?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 It wouldn't shock me if Kelly turns into and all-pro but it also wouldn't shock me if he turned into a complete bust too. Low risk (Mr. Irrelevant in the draft) and potentially a high reward guy for the Broncos. As fun as it would have been if the Bills had taken him in the last round I think both the Bills and Chad are better off with him playing somewhere else. The interesting thing is that although he has been humbled by his fall in the draft I get the sense that if he got the chance to play and started getting attention his ego would grow and he would do the same stupid things he did before. It won't shock you if Chad Kelly turn out to an all pro??? You think there is a chance he is on the Rodgers, Brady, & Brees level? I think there's more a chance he is out of the league than becomes an all pro. He's a complete moron but I do agree it's a low risk move. But there are so many other things besides the physical part to being a NFL qb. something was said...now i'm angry! Whatever just happened is the best or worst thing ever!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Remember when Maurice Clarett was the most talented RB on the Broncos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Chad Kelly could turn out to be a good player, but my opinion remains the same. If he was a Joe Blow, or a Ryan Leaf, or something other than a Kelly, most Bills fans would not bat an eyelash that he's not on this team. While maybe the Bills missed on some kind of late-born, transcendent talent, I'd rather that they right the ship and to start winning games than to take another risk. Moral victories like diamond-in-the-rough types of players, or guys who outplayed their draft value and got a second lucrative second contract are nice stories, but I'd choose 10-6 and going deep into the playoffs over moral victories any day of the week. I know Bills have been terrible trying to develop QB's. Using C Jones as an ex they draft him as a project to then given him about, what, 14 passes in real games, to apparently think that project is empty. Only in Buffalo. It would not have cost much in money and one late round draft pick to get Chad Kelly. What would it have hurt to see what he could do? He was hurt anyway and could have possibly spent a year on IR learning as Bills give C Jones another yr to develop. Edited July 20, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Forgive me, but does anyone really care all that much about Bill Polian's opinion anymore. Might be the most overrated GM in the history of the game, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Forgive me, but does anyone really care all that much about Bill Polian's opinion anymore. Might be the most overrated GM in the history of the game, IMO. He drafted Peyton Manning and Bruce (with #1 overall picks but still)!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeckBeard Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I know Bills have been terrible trying to develop QB's. Using C Jones as an ex they draft him as a project to then given him about, what, 14 passes in real games, to apparently think that project is empty. Only in Buffalo. It would not have cost much in money and would have cost zero draft picks to outbid Denver for undrafted FA Chad Kelly. What would it have hurt to see what he could do? He was hurt anyway and could have possibly spent a year on IR learning as Bills give C Jones another yr to develop. So, since we're not talking about bias due to the Kelly name here, if the Bills had taken a late-round flier on him (he was taken in the 7th), does it not smack of a bad decision, even in that late round? It does to me. The guy had problems, then health issues, then more problems, then couldn't complete his pro day due to health issues. This is not a player you pick, and no, not even if you are the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 So, since we're not talking about bias due to the Kelly name here, if the Bills had taken a late-round flier on him (he was taken in the 7th), does it not smack of a bad decision, even in that late round? It does to me. The guy had problems, then health issues, then more problems, then couldn't complete his pro day due to health issues. This is not a player you pick, and no, not even if you are the Bills. I agree with all these and have not heard very many positive Chad stories from Buffalo. The counter is that it was so low risk that it could look terrible if he does develop into something since he would have loved to be a Bill. But I won't have drafted him either. I don't think he'll ever amount to much but I could definitely see him being better than Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeckBeard Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I agree with all these and have not heard very many positive Chad stories from Buffalo. The counter is that it was so low risk that it could look terrible if he does develop into something since he would have loved to be a Bill. But I won't have drafted him either. I don't think he'll ever amount to much but I could definitely see him being better than Peterman. So, for what it's worth, I could see Kelly getting a shot in Denver. However, better than Peterman? Time will tell. To me Kelly's got that Ryan Leaf flare to him, and he's already been hurt a few times, so I see the old man holding his shoe in the air, and is waiting to drop it. Sometimes, longevity of an NFL player (a backup QB in particular) rests on one's ability not to screw up, not to ruffle feathers, and to act like a professional, even when being a professional far outweighs your QB abilities. I don't see it with Kelly at this time, and maybe he'll be fine, but again, don't see it. If Peterman doesn't flame out or get injured, I'd see a 5-year career for him, and maybe 2 for Kelly. Really went out on a limb there. Someone will punch me in the face with this bold proclamation, I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Forgive me, but does anyone really care all that much about Bill Polian's opinion anymore. Might be the most overrated GM in the history of the game, IMO. I forgive you, but I don't agree. I'm not placing him a pedestal -his still uncontrollable temper bugs me to this day, but he is the architect of note for 3 formidable teams in his GM tenure. 6 Super Bowl teams and a title. Overrated just doesn't apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 He may be the most talented but talent, by itself, isn't enough to succeed. The question is, does he have the discipline to take it to the next level? Jerry Rice said that Randy Moss had more raw talent than he (Rice) ever had, but Moss didn't work as hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I think Polian has been offering advice to the Pegula's so in my world...they care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 It won't shock you if Chad Kelly turn out to an all pro??? You think there is a chance he is on the Rodgers, Brady, & Brees level? I think there's more a chance he is out of the league than becomes an all pro. He's a complete moron but I do agree it's a low risk move. But there are so many other things besides the physical part to being a NFL qb. Whatever just happened is the best or worst thing ever!!! Based on his talent and the fact that Jim Kelly is his uncle, someone who has been successful after some youthful indiscretions no I wouldn't be shocked if he was successful or became an all pro. You can't teach talent. Not many people as good as the group you mentioned so no I don't think there is a chance he would be that good. That being said I also I have no issue whatsoever with the Bills passing on him and I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up like Ryan Leaf, Brady Quinn, Rick Mirer or Tim Couch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 So talented that he was barely drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Chad Kelly could turn out to be a good player, but my opinion remains the same. If he was a Joe Blow, or a Ryan Leaf, or something other than a Kelly, most Bills fans would not bat an eyelash that he's not on this team. While maybe the Bills missed on some kind of late-born, transcendent talent, I'd rather that they right the ship and to start winning games than to take another risk. Moral victories like diamond-in-the-rough types of players, or guys who outplayed their draft value and got a second lucrative second contract are nice stories, but I'd choose 10-6 and going deep into the playoffs over moral victories any day of the week. There were some with zero ties to the bills who felt he had first round talent. Would not have been a major risk drafting him in the seventh round. Seventh rounders are a total crap shoot and most dont stay in the league more than a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeckBeard Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 There were some with zero ties to the bills who felt he had first round talent. Would not have been a major risk drafting him in the seventh round. Seventh rounders are a total crap shoot and most dont stay in the league more than a year or two. Yes, he may have had first round talent, but his fall to the 7th tells you a lot. I am going to watch how he does for sure. First, I was one of those people that stood by the roadways when his uncle rolled into town. Second, he went to my alma mater (St. Joe's) and I always try and follow guys who come out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Maybe we can pick him up after his third suspension from The League. You know - value... get 'em on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Peterman better turn out better than Chad. What happens if Kelly is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Here we go again... He should have no problem beating Lynch for the starting job. Dude hasn't even taken a practice snap yet! It does seem like they're up his butt for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 He drafted Peyton Manning and Bruce (with #1 overall picks but still)!!! He wasn't the GM that drafted Bruce Smith, it was Terry Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 If Rex was the coach of the Broncos Chad would be the starter for the Bills game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Polian says a lot of things. ^^^This^^^ So talented that he was barely drafted. Because of a favor called in by his uncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Here we go again... He should have no problem beating Lynch for the starting job. Dude hasn't even taken a practice snap yet! ...and Jimbo told Bill, "your check is in the mail......"................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 He may be the most talented but talent, by itself, isn't enough to succeed. The question is, does he have the discipline to take it to the next level? Jerry Rice said that Randy Moss had more raw talent than he (Rice) ever had, but Moss didn't work as hard. No offense, but, wouldn't you take either one of their equivalents at QB? Looks kinda like snubbing Marino because you want Unitas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Remember when Maurice Clarett was the most talented RB on the Broncos? Grey Goose in the water bottle evened the playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I forgive you, but I don't agree. I'm not placing him a pedestal -his still uncontrollable temper bugs me to this day, but he is the architect of note for 3 formidable teams in his GM tenure. 6 Super Bowl teams and a title. Overrated just doesn't apply. This ^ I can't believe how many Bills fans refer to Polian as being overrated.. Fans are entitled to dislike Polian as a person, but don't try to tell me that he is overrated. His record as a GM speaks for itself. The 90's Bills were one of the greatest teams in the history of the league. It is absurd to marginalize his accomplishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) This ^ I can't believe how many Bills fans refer to Polian as being overrated.. Fans are entitled to dislike Polian as a person, but don't try to tell me that he is overrated. His record as a GM speaks for itself. The 90's Bills were one of the greatest teams in the history of the league. It is absurd to marginalize his accomplishments. ....don't think that is the point or question....yet how well connected is he with today's game/players to offer commentary?.....didn't Bill Walsh offer drool all over Trent Edwards which worked out exactly how?....despite their pedigree and accomplishments, these guys and their player judgments are hardly infallible IMO........... Edited July 20, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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