John from Riverside Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 He was underrated by a lot of people. He is a solid CB, BUT i am not convinced he's as good or better than Darby. Like the trade down, but felt 27 was too far. We could of dropped 5-8 at the most. Oh well like the extra 1st rounder next year, we will use it on a QB. What if a drop from 5-8 wasnt there? it takes TWO to make a trade People forget the other big part of this...the number 1 next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 @WGR550 McDermott- "People were calling us at 27 to take us out of the 1st round. I'm not a big fan of that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I love the pick... The more I hear him speak and read about his college career the more excited I get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) @WGR550 McDermott- "People were calling us at 27 to take us out of the 1st round. I'm not a big fan of that." I agree, White is the kind of young player/ leader you want to build the team around. Drop out of the 1st and its less likely a player of his value to fill a team need is still available. Deep draft, I get that, but if you see a guy available that really goes well in the grand scheme of things to come, you get him. Edited April 28, 2017 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I agree, White is the kind of young player/ leader you want to build the team around. Drop out of the 1st and its less likely a player of his value to fill a team need is still available. Deep draft, I get that, but if you see a guy available that really goes well in the grand scheme of things to come, you get him. Not even just that, if you trade out of the first you lose the 5th year option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Please expound. Literally, that is what the pats have done for years. It's why they are one of the best teams at overcoming injuries. But I'm interested to hear what case you can present. Other than gronk, Brady you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Not even just that, if you trade out of the first you lose the 5th year option. We don't use the 5th year option on guys who can play anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I've read that his quick twitch allows him to make plays on balls. He's a great returner so he must have speed. Looks a lot like McKelvin, who never had a problem covering guys, but who can also find the ball and make plays on it. Poor comparison. Both return punts if asked. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Not even just that, if you trade out of the first you lose the 5th year option. good point We don't use the 5th year option on guys who can play anyway. lol, touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 @WGR550 McDermott- "People were calling us at 27 to take us out of the 1st round. I'm not a big fan of that." Hmmm...so who is running the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 To the Gilmore guys blowing up this thread, he didn't deserve top 5 corner money. Gilmore is good but not great. Also, he doesn't fit into McDermott's scheme. Sean needs corners who can play mostly zone with some man and press mixed in there, and he needs tough corners who can come up and play the run. Gilmore is all bump and run and he stinks in run support. We just picked a durable corner who started all four years only missing a couple games. He is a smart leader and some experts say was the second highest rated CB in the draft. He can return punts, was a two year captain (wearing #18 for LSU is a big deal) and he can play inside/outside and man or zone. I love the pick. Oh, and we picked up another 3rd and 1st? That's what the pats and good teams have done for years. Your logic is too logical. Your emotions are supposed to trump logic (no pun intended, but I like it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I have no idea how anyone is upset with how this is playing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Poor comparison. Both return punts if asked. That's about it. In thinking about the CBs that have been through OBD, he looks much more like McKelvin than he does Gilmore, Clements, or even Darby. No? Same size, good speed, good coverage skills. But it looks like White knows how to make plays on the ball. I'm not saying it's 100% accurate, just trying to put him in terms that we're familiar with. What's your better comparison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Dunno if already posted, but White chose jersey #27 to reflect his pick. #18 unavailable because of big bad Listenbee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Dunno if already posted, but White chose jersey #27 to reflect his pick. #18 unavailable because of big bad Listenbee. lol I was trying to remember who had 18. I like the #27, good choice Tre. Edited April 28, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I have no idea how anyone is upset with how this is playing out. No idea either. the first rd was a A-A+ all around. We filled the teams biggest need with a plug n play starter, secured a 3rd pick to whom will most likely be another day1 starter. The extra 1st rd pick next year is just fantastic for a new coach to have. It will open up so many options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach burgan Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 lol I was trying to remember who had 18. I like the #27, good choice Tre. Would he be allowed to pick 18 anyway? I thought DBs were restricted to 20s, 30s, and 40s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 He was underrated by a lot of people. He is a solid CB, BUT i am not convinced he's as good or better than Darby. Like the trade down, but felt 27 was too far. We could of dropped 5-8 at the most. Oh well like the extra 1st rounder next year, we will use it on a QB. What if White was our guy no matter what? Could you imagine the reaction if we had dropped down to the 15-18 range and still picked him? Heads would have exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 No idea either. the first rd was a A-A+ all around. We filled the teams biggest need with a plug n play starter, secured a 3rd pick to whom will most likely be another day1 starter. The extra 1st rd pick next year is just fantastic for a new coach to have. It will open up so many options. I'm definitely not upset, but seeing the talent that was available to them at 10 made the trade down a little tougher to swallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLizzyMeock Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/4/28/15469798/buffalo-bills-cb-tredavious-white-second-ranked-cb-prospect-by-pro-football-focus-2017-nfl-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 In thinking about the CBs that have been through OBD, he looks much more like McKelvin than he does Gilmore, Clements, or even Darby. No? Same size, good speed, good coverage skills. But it looks like White knows how to make plays on the ball. I'm not saying it's 100% accurate, just trying to put him in terms that we're familiar with. What's your better comparison? Yeah he's closer physically to McKelvin than those guys. But McKelvin was very uninstinctive........call it football dumb.......so he couldn't get out of his own way most of the time let alone be any kind of example/leader. He also hadn't produced at a high level of football like the SEC....he was an athletic projection as much as anything and his track numbers looked better THEN than they would now.......so he was maybe a level above 3D relative to the field/current expectations......hence the higher selection/ranking. And as you noted, Leodis had an awful time playing the football.....which was a concern because he was basically coming to a Tampa-2 defense where he was supposed to make plays on the football.......like the guy he was effectively replacing, Nate Clements. I don't like my mediocre team having to draft to replace free agent departures, but I think he has a good chance to be a lot better at things Gilmore was not particularly strong at. Durability, playing the football, contributing in run support and being a good teammate who won't exacerbate bad situations and help them snowball the way I think Gilmore's history of not tackling excused the rest of the defense from doing so when they got frustrated late in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiostyle Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Somewhere Dick Jauron is smiling This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 @buffalobills Coming soon to the Buffalo Bills secondary: Tre'Davious White, number 27. https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/858045808775761921 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 It takes an Aaron Maybin to rant against from Day 1, and I don't see anything like that here, he looks OK to me. I'll wish him luck, wait to see what he does on the field, and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Listened to his press conference, he sounds like a great kid with a love of football. Very high energy and excited. Edited April 28, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Watch: White Meets McDermott and Whaley (0:49)Watch as 2017 1st round pick Tre'Davious White gets some words of wisdom from HC Sean McDermott and GM Doug Whaley shortly after arriving in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Listening to this kid's press conference. He's super impressive just as a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Excellent pick for us. Love the player. And the trade was exactly what we needed. Would love to see us take Sidney Jones with the 3rd round pick we got from KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Tre'Davious White: "Opportunity of a Lifetime" (14:42)Bills 2017 First Round Pick Tre'Davious White meet the media for the first time Friday topics include; his role with the Bills, his family, and his impressions of Head Coach Sean McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Probably in here somewhere, but with all you heard about Adams, how does White get #18? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 @WGR550 McDermott- "People were calling us at 27 to take us out of the 1st round. I'm not a big fan of that." You sure Whaley wasnt a big fan? Wait, Im confused whos in charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Listening to this kid's press conference. He's super impressive just as a person. Very impressive. Seemed like a very good kid. So happy he is a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Listening to this kid's press conference. He's super impressive just as a person. I came away very impressed also, now I get what they mean by "class act", he seems like a genuine kid, I hope he does great things for us because I think the locker room just got a really nice boost with White now added to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Something y'all might not know about Tre White is he has blood already in the NFL. Former Cowboy and now Jets DB Morris Claiborne is his cousin, and they look extremely alike. Google a facial shot of Mo Claiborne and Tre White to see a strange resemblance. Edited April 28, 2017 by CajunBillsBacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The first round is NOT the place to roll the dice. Some of the other guys certainly may work out, but this gives me a nice warm feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Something y'all might not know about Tre White is he has blood already in the NFL. Former Cowboy and now Jets DB Morris Claiborne is his cousin, and they look extremely alike. Google a facial shot of Mo Claiborne and Tre White to see a strange resemblance. Wow you are right they do look alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABillsFan1st Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 White better be better than good, he better be a game changer as deep as this draft is at CB. It is a safe pick, a solid football player but is he going to lead this team to the next level? I would have rather seen the Bills take a chance on Foster. Only time will tell but in my opinion it was a vanilla pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 White better be better than good, he better be a game changer as deep as this draft is at CB. It is a safe pick, a solid football player but is he going to lead this team to the next level? I would have rather seen the Bills take a chance on Foster. Only time will tell but in my opinion it was a vanilla pick. Kind of high expectations. Speaking of high, Foster has a much better chance of landing on the suspended list with Dareus, and he's got medical issues. Might he have the better career? Sure, but I'll take what many had as the 2nd rated CB with no existing health or character issues. We all have opinions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I don't know if this is a good pick or not...and I'm not sure it matters, given that he's likely to play for two head coaches, three defensive coordinators, and three secondary coaches over the four years he's in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Listening to this kid's press conference. He's super impressive just as a person. Wait til you hear Zay. They are both phenomenal kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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