Wagon Circler Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Assuming we are able to keep Lynn as O.C. and are covered on the offensive side, we need a head coach to fix the defense. We know that Pettine never really had a chance in Cleveland. He did good things here. Worth a shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Yes fire Rex Hire his coaching tree. SO BILLSY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I woiuldnt have a problem with that. However, I think the Pegulas want to get rid of some nasty stank and start fresh. We shall see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Yes fire Rex Hire his coaching tree. SO BILLSY Billsy would be hiring a guy as HC who quit on you. I wonder who might be for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I want a 4-3 coach as I think that is the system that this talent fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 100% no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Yes fire Rex Hire his coaching tree. SO BILLSY Lynn started with Shanahan, Del Rio and Parcells. He's part of their coaching tree too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 The Bills next retread HC should be a Bills retread? Just....stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Billsy would be hiring a guy as HC who quit on you. I wonder who might be for that. Yeah it would. That was a great thread wasnt it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just give me Jim Schwartz. Him Marv Lewis or A Lynn and im a happy guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 The Bills next retread HC should be a Bills retread? Just....stop. Not much of a retread, never got much of a shot I believe in Pettine as a leader and as a guy who doesn't mind being aggressive to accomodate today's league. He'd be on my interview list for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Assuming we are able to keep Lynn as O.C. and are covered on the offensive side, we need a head coach to fix the defense. We know that Pettine never really had a chance in Cleveland. He did good things here. Worth a shot? He is Garbage, if you watched the Bills you would have seen he was a HORRIBLE DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Yeah it would. That was a great thread wasnt it lol How is this guy still allowed to post, after being an admitted troll? To the OP, I tend to think A Lynn would bring in someone not tied to Rex to fix this defense. But, who knows? Stranger things have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerland Bills Fan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Pettine as a DC only. Now that we've spent the last two years switching D personnel to a 3-4, I hate starting over again. The defense needs discipline more than anything else. Lynn will be the HC somewhere if not in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Tenth ranked defense in the league is horrible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Tenth ranked defense in the league is horrible?Yes, stop looking at flashy stats! 20th in PPG Edited December 27, 2016 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I want a 4-3 coach as I think that is the system that this talent fits. Yes, this is correct. Pettine was a high caliber guy, but his D had some of the same problems that Rex D does....as, it was basically the same D....a 3x4.....Schwartz came in and did a much better job with the same talent in the 4-3. So, this comment is dead on correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerland Bills Fan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 He is Garbage, if you watched the Bills you would have seen he was a HORRIBLE DC. I'm too poor to get NFL Sunday Ticket, so I don't see that many complete games anymore. Why was he so bad as DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I'm too poor to get NFL Sunday Ticket, so I don't see that many complete games anymore. Why was he so bad as DC? Run D was pretty bad under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I'm too poor to get NFL Sunday Ticket, so I don't see that many complete games anymore. Why was he so bad as DC? He would get a sack in first and second down (which is what these poor slobs look at then on third down would allow a 10 yard run.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Some of you are nutso, he did an excellent job with that defense. There's a big difference taking over Wanny's EPICALLY bad defense like Pettine did, vs. taking over Pettine's good defense like Schwartz did for the 3-4/4-3 phobics, Pettine is one of the more versatile defensive coaches around and will do just what he did here last time, build the D around the players we have. We were mostly a one-gap team when he was here which suited Dareus, KW and Hughes far better than did Rex' D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Would rather have Schwartz. 4th in pts per game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Some of you are nutso, he did an excellent job with that defense. There's a big difference taking over Wanny's EPICALLY bad defense like Pettine did, vs. taking over Pettine's good defense like Schwartz did for the 3-4/4-3 phobics, Pettine is one of the more versatile defensive coaches around and will do just what he did here last time, build the D around the players we have. We were mostly a one-gap team when he was here which suited Dareus, KW and Hughes far better than did Rex' D. One of the worst run defenses in the league when he was here Edited December 27, 2016 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Jim Schwartz or Gus Bradley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 One of the worst run defenses in the league when he was here You are right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Assuming we are able to keep Lynn as O.C. and are covered on the offensive side, we need a head coach to fix the defense. We know that Pettine never really had a chance in Cleveland. He did good things here. Worth a shot? Erm we had the same issues with Pettine we had with Rex, good pass rush and half way decent passing defense but couldn't stop the run for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) One of the worst run defenses in the league when he was hereand when he was in Cleveland too. Actually no part of his D was any good with the Browns. And yes they had talent then. Haden regressed considerably under Pettine. His scheme was awful. Edited December 27, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Assuming we are able to keep Lynn as O.C. and are covered on the offensive side, we need a head coach to fix the defense. We know that Pettine never really had a chance in Cleveland. He did good things here. Worth a shot?Lynn is on the shortlist for a number of NFL HC jobs and won't be around. I am completely on board with Lynn as HC and Pettine as DC. I believe Pettine would consider it and Wow what a great combo that could be. Edited December 27, 2016 by dezertbill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I like Petine - really do but don't think he is good match for our D anylonger - or for our division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 How is this guy still allowed to post, after being an admitted troll? To the OP, I tend to think A Lynn would bring in someone not tied to Rex to fix this defense. But, who knows? Stranger things have happened. wait where is said admission? Pettine as a DC only. Now that we've spent the last two years switching D personnel to a 3-4, I hate starting over again. The defense needs discipline more than anything else. Lynn will be the HC somewhere if not in Buffalo. And yet we are still closer to a 4-3 than a 3-4 buts thats ok Some of you are nutso, he did an excellent job with that defense. There's a big difference taking over Wanny's EPICALLY bad defense like Pettine did, vs. taking over Pettine's good defense like Schwartz did for the 3-4/4-3 phobics, Pettine is one of the more versatile defensive coaches around and will do just what he did here last time, build the D around the players we have. We were mostly a one-gap team when he was here which suited Dareus, KW and Hughes far better than did Rex' D. No he didnt. Still couldnt stop the run Couldnt get off field on third down Rexs defense with some sacks awesome. Lynn is on the shortlist for a number of NFL HC jobs and won't be around. I am completely on board with Lynn as HC and Pettine as DC. I believe Pettine would consider it and Wow what a great combo that could be. Sure hes on the shortlist for a number (2 to be exact if you count his current employer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Ruined by the Browns. That's Mike Pettine in a nutshell for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Haven't we been gashed enough by the run??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Absolutely not We had the 29th D against the run this year, with multiple 200+ yd games given up. We had the 28th D against the run in 2013 with Pettine as DC and also gave up 4 300+ yd passing games. Against the run, Browns were 30th and 32 or something like that, under Pettine Don't try to fix weaknesses by choosing a savior with those same weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Absolutely Not. If you thought the Bills couldn't stop the run this year, bring Pettine back and watch that porous run defense at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisplacedBillsFan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 It's likely already in this post somewhere, but instead of guys like Pettine and Schwartz, why not someone more like Mike Smith. You know, someone who has actually won as a HC in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Jay Ajayi would gain 1000 yards against us in one season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Don't have a problem with Mike Smith, or Coughlin, or even Schwartzy. Lynn doesn't excite me. the guy spent the whole season in the booth. How is that training to be a H.C. Would like to see him stay on as O.C. though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Our run defense was deplorable under Pettine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 No. No defensive head coaches until we get a stud qb. Also, Pettine seems like a guy who is a coordinator at best. I'd rather keep Rex than hire him. Our run defense was deplorable under Pettine Great point John. We made a ton of big plays under him but we got gashed a lot. Just like this year. That Rex model defense just mind not be good enough anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Yes fire Rex Hire his coaching tree. SO BILLSY Or bring back every retread that has gone through Buffalo once already. It's the Buffalo battle cry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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