Chuck Wagon Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk And now perhaps we know why the Falcons and Browns got a slap on the wrist. Sets a recent precedent for the Patriots. If the GM gets a 4 game suspension for sending some texts, what does the QB get for ordering balls to be doctored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 @JeremyWGR: Boston radio claiming that some scientists disagree with the findings. Like that one out of five dentists that DOESNT like Trident. Jeremy is on fire right now. He must be loving this. I know I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk And now perhaps we know why the Falcons and Browns got a slap on the wrist. Sets a recent precedent for the Patriots. But how can they possibly give Brady a slap on the wrist? The Pats** themselves, sure. Brady? I think people would have a major problem with that. He lied and didn't co-operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 @JeremyWGR: The Patriots are blaming the science. Thats usually a good thing to do, if youre a crazy person. Yes Pats, fight science. That has to be the tweet of the day right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Montana's untarnished achivements remain intact and arguably the best qb of the superbowl era.How? he never cheated. Tom brady* not so much. This finding and report if true should end any debate. Of course one must add in the Other cheating by the pats* in previous superbowl seasons. as for Robert Kraft? Enjoy The blowback A- Hole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Chucked under the bus IMO. I'm sure they had knowledge but turned a blind eye to it. I thought Goodell concluded that ignorance is not an excuse with New Orleans though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 So, does Brady get suspended for at least the first two games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 If the GM gets a 4 game suspension for sending some texts, what does the QB get for ordering balls to be doctored? Reminds me of office space where the two get sent to a federal "pound you in the ass" prison and peter gets a scolding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 If the GM gets a 4 game suspension for sending some texts, what does the QB get for ordering balls to be doctored? One year suspension. At least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I thought Goodell concluded that ignorance is not an excuse with New Orleans though... True. I'm not sure how you would be able to prove that the coaches knew about this though if it was between him and the other two. Bountygate was basically a team philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills of Boston Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) I'd love Brady to be suspended 1 game (lose to Pitt) and then have his season opener @ the 1-0 Bills... probably wouldn't get too loud in there. Edited May 6, 2015 by Bills of Boston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Statement from Robert Kraft:“When I addressed the media at the Super Bowl on January 26 – over 14 weeks ago – I stated that I unconditionally believed that the New England Patriots had done nothing inappropriate in this process or in violation of the NFL rules and that I was disappointed in the way the league handled the initial investigation. That sentiment has not changed.“I was convinced that Ted Wells’ investigation would find the same factual evidence supported by both scientific formula and independent research as we did and would ultimately exonerate the Patriots. Based on the explanations I have heard and the studies that have been done, I don’t know how the science of atmospheric conditions can be refuted or how conclusions to the contrary can be drawn without some definitive evidence.“What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts’ four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under inflated footballs. As compelling a case as the Wells Report may try to make, I am going to rely on the factual evidence of numerous scientists and engineers rather than inferences from circumstantial evidence.“Throughout the process of this nearly four-month investigation, we have cooperated and patiently awaited its outcome. To say we are disappointed in its findings, which do not include any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation of footballs at the AFC Championship game, would be a gross understatement. In addition, given our level of cooperation throughout the process, I was offended by the comments made in the Wells Report in reference to not making an individual available for a follow-up interview. What the report fails to mention is that he had already been interviewed four times and we felt the fifth request for access was excessive for a part-time game day employee who has a full-time job with another employer.“While I respect the independent process of the investigation, the time, effort and resources expended to reach this conclusion are incomprehensible to me. Knowing that there is no real recourse available, fighting the league and extending this debate would prove to be futile. We understand and greatly respect the responsibility of being one of 32 in this league and, on that basis, we will accept the findings of the report and take the appropriate actions based on those findings as well as any discipline levied by the league.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I'd love Brady to be suspended 1 game (lose to Pitt) and then have his season opener @ the 1-0 Bills... probably wouldn't get too loud in there. Under that scenario...it's a good thing they upgraded the structural / foundation work with the recent rehab. That would be an unreal environment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 SportsBook has closed the line on the NFL season opener, along with the AFCE and all other Pats games. Uh oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 @Deadspin: Wells Report: Tom Brady was aware of deflated balls, tried to calm equipment assistant after scandal broke. http://t.co/OyJ6O7eh0n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronyAbounds Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Robert Kraft is a despicable human being, the Patriots are habitual cheaters, and Tom Brady is POS. Those are the conclusions that should be drawn from this whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 @AlbertBreer: New info in here on a 2004 incident as well, where the Patriots were accused of bringing unapproved practice balls into games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 @AlbertBreer: New info in here on a 2004 incident as well, where the Patriots were accused of bringing unapproved practice balls into games.This is the gift that keeps on giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Statement from Robert Kraft:When I addressed the media at the Super Bowl on January 26 over 14 weeks ago I stated that I unconditionally believed that the New England Patriots had done nothing inappropriate in this process or in violation of the NFL rules and that I was disappointed in the way the league handled the initial investigation. That sentiment has not changed. I was convinced that Ted Wells investigation would find the same factual evidence supported by both scientific formula and independent research as we did and would ultimately exonerate the Patriots. Based on the explanations I have heard and the studies that have been done, I dont know how the science of atmospheric conditions can be refuted or how conclusions to the contrary can be drawn without some definitive evidence. What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under inflated footballs. As compelling a case as the Wells Report may try to make, I am going to rely on the factual evidence of numerous scientists and engineers rather than inferences from circumstantial evidence. Throughout the process of this nearly four-month investigation, we have cooperated and patiently awaited its outcome. To say we are disappointed in its findings, which do not include any incontrovertible or hard evidence of deliberate deflation of footballs at the AFC Championship game, would be a gross understatement. In addition, given our level of cooperation throughout the process, I was offended by the comments made in the Wells Report in reference to not making an individual available for a follow-up interview. What the report fails to mention is that he had already been interviewed four times and we felt the fifth request for access was excessive for a part-time game day employee who has a full-time job with another employer. While I respect the independent process of the investigation, the time, effort and resources expended to reach this conclusion are incomprehensible to me. Knowing that there is no real recourse available, fighting the league and extending this debate would prove to be futile. We understand and greatly respect the responsibility of being one of 32 in this league and, on that basis, we will accept the findings of the report and take the appropriate actions based on those findings as well as any discipline levied by the league. Cliff notes version of Krafts babble: Weve been caught with our pants down, cannot find a way out so we accept our outcome and punishment. My lawyers have already stated this is undisputable. Edited May 6, 2015 by Best Player Available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 So cheating, lying, bribing and uncooperative are all new Tom Brady vocabulary we can use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 @AlbertBreer: Part of Colts GM Ryan Grigson's email to the league before the title game ... http://t.co/nI93zPK9YB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I love that Tom Brady gives uggs to team staff members. The jokes practically write themselves there. The eye rolling at those gifts had to be off the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Sure would be nice to see Brady get at least a 2 game suspension to have him out for our first meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Our boy!!! @RapSheet: Important: NFL says Troy Vincent will consider what steps to take in light of the report, possible disciplinary action, for Brady, others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 https://twitter.com/KevinClarkWSJ/status/596003889050169344 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 @AlbertBreer: Part of Colts GM Ryan Grigson's email to the league before the title game ... http://t.co/nI93zPK9YB I love all the Pats* fans commenting on it. It's gives me that warm fuzzy feeling inside seeing them squirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Our boy!!! @RapSheet: Important: NFL says Troy Vincent will consider what steps to take in light of the report, possible disciplinary action, for Brady, others A former Bill gets to swing the hammer? Make it hurt Troy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 May 6, 2015 -- a day that will live in infamy. The day the NY Giants welcome back thousands of their fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/06/nfl-may-discipline-tom-brady-over-deflategate/ What kind of discipline is Brady facing? That’s impossible to say, given that there’s never been a rules violation like this in NFL history. The league might consider a fine to be severe enough, but a suspension can’t be ruled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Robert Kraft is a despicable human being, the Patriots are habitual cheaters, and Tom Brady is POS. Those are the conclusions that should be drawn from this whole thing. I think we've know this for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 maybe brady should not have skipped that white house gathering.... hmmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Not sure if posted elsewhere in this thread, but here's the full report: https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/investigative-and-expert-reports-re-footballs-used-during-afc-championsh.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 He was bribing these guys to break the rules! Lay the hammer!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/06/nfl-may-discipline-tom-brady-over-deflategate/ What kind of discipline is Brady facing? That’s impossible to say, given that there’s never been a rules violation like this in NFL history. The league might consider a fine to be severe enough, but a suspension can’t be ruled out. He'll be suspended for the entirety of preseason. It's harsh, of course, but the NFL takes these things very seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Sure would be nice to see Brady get at least a 2 game suspension to have him out for our first meeting. 2 games is not even close to enough. He should sit for the year and the team should forfeit their title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) https://twitter.com/KevinClarkWSJ/status/596003889050169344 That stuff is pretty good evidence he knew he was cheating and got caught IMO. Edited May 6, 2015 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 As is often the case, the cover-up is worse than the crime. Anything less than half a season suspension is a joke. If he had come clean, probably would've been a fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) McNally threatened to go to espn and spill the beans until brady gave him shoes Omg Edited May 6, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingant Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Gisele probably has to go back to work now that Tom may be unemployed for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 No way McNally still works for the Pats** as of right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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