papazoid Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Jack Butler Dermonte Dawson Chris Doleman Cortez Kennedy Curtis Martin Willie Roaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Búfalo Blanco Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 And furthermore, :censored: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/02/dermontti-dawson-curtis-martin-lead-six-man-pro-football-hall-of-fame-class-bettis-haley-parcells-shut-out/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 HOF does not like WRs too much. Chris Doleman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Curtis Martin? I guess stats are the key ingredient. I can close my eyes and see OJ, Sanders, Sayers, Smith etc. running the ball. I can't for the life of me conger up an immage of Curtis Martin. He wasn't a game changer (IMO) and he doesn't belong. For him to make it as the only 'skill' offensive player does not work for me. IMO Brown, Reed and Carter are each more deserving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jone's Toupee Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Wow....When it rains it pours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 It is a shame the Michael Irvin made it in a couple of years ago. Sure he was on three teams that won the super bowl, but Carter, Brown, and Reed would have too had they played on those Dallas teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 What's the reason to shut down one thread and then start another? Anyway, I heard on the radio that Andre made it to the final ten again. Who else made the ten but didn't get chosen? Are there any shoo-in first year candidates next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 To quote Andre, I'm pissed off to the highest degree of pissivity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 REALLY pissed!... Again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 What's the reason to shut down one thread and then start another? Anyway, I heard on the radio that Andre made it to the final ten again. Who else made the ten but didn't get chosen? Are there any shoo-in first year candidates next year? Because now the final list is out. I haven't found a list of the final 10, but I did see one article that said Bettis did not make those 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Cortez Kennedy was known for taking tons of plays off, and never once dominated a game. What a joke. Edited February 4, 2012 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 It's great to recognize guys in the trenches, but 4 of 5 in the class of 2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Hmmmm....not really all that impressed with that list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Did The Brady make it this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I haven't found a list of the final 10, but I did see one article that said Bettis did not make those 10. He did not and neither did Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Haha at the Chris Doleman vote. Nobody outside Vikings football would remember him. A good player on a lot of eh Vikings teams. Kevin Greene had a better career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hater Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Chris Doleman, Cortez Kennedy, Curtis Martin are you joking NFL Seriously,they didn't choose Andre Reed, Cris Carter, Tim Brown, Jerome Bettis, Charles Haley & Bill Parcells Charles Haley has 5 Superbowl rings how many does Chris Doleman & Cortez Kennedy have AHH... ZERO, Curtis Martin really... come on this pick was made because when was the last time a Patriot or Jet was induced into the HOF & who is in the Superbowl this Oh the Patriots. Dermonte Dawson & Willie Roaf I can except but the rest No Way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Because now the final list is out. I haven't found a list of the final 10, but I did see one article that said Bettis did not make those 10. Final 10: Carter, Dawson, Doleman, Haley, Kennedy, Martin, Parcells, Reed, Roaf, Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 Because now the final list is out. I haven't found a list of the final 10, but I did see one article that said Bettis did not make those 10. Jerome Bettis Tim Brown Jack Butler* Cris Carter (final 10) Dermontti Dawson Eddie DeBartolo Chris Doleman Kevin Greene Charles Haley (final 10) Cortez Kennedy Curtis Martin Bill Parcells (final 10) Andre Reed (final 10) William Roaf Will Shields Dick Stanfel * Aeneas Williams (final 10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 If Chris Carter and Andre Reed can't get in ahead of Doleman, Kennedy or Martin then they will never make it. Chris Doleman especially. Come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 If Chris Carter and Andre Reed can't get in ahead of Doleman, Kennedy or Martin then they will never make it. Chris Doleman especially. Come on. Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Andre & Tuna got robbed... and Chris friggin' Doleman over Charles Haley is beyond ridiculous. If Willie Roaf was a true HOF-er, the Saints wouldn't have given him away to the Chiefs for a song while he still had quality years in him. Dawson belongs, meh on Kennedy, meh on C-Mart, Andre is far more worthy. Glad that Cris Carter didn't make it though, and also glad that the Bus didn't make the Final 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Willie Roaf? Who the heck is he? I've been watching professional football for 40 years and I'll be damned if I can say I've heard of the guy before today....The selectors must have been drunk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Willie Roaf? Who the heck is he? I've been watching professional football for 40 years and I'll be damned if I can say I've heard of the guy before today....The selectors must have been drunk... He is more deserving than Doleman, Martin and Kennedy. You probably just don't know him because he was an offensive lineman on some bad saints teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Doleman waa a great player. But sure as hell no greater than Dre. Too bad. Congrats to the folks who made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Chris Doleman, Cortez Kennedy, Curtis Martin are you joking NFL Seriously,they didn't choose Andre Reed, Cris Carter, Tim Brown, Jerome Bettis, Charles Haley & Bill Parcells Charles Haley has 5 Superbowl rings how many does Chris Doleman & Cortez Kennedy have AHH... ZERO, Curtis Martin really... come on this pick was made because when was the last time a Patriot or Jet was induced into the HOF & who is in the Superbowl this Oh the Patriots. Dermonte Dawson & Willie Roaf I can except but the rest No Way Yes, this I do not understand. Haley was more of a difference maker, character issues are keeping him out. While I disagree with Doleman & Kennedy, the Super Bowl rings are irrelevant. A Super Bowl is a team effort, one player does not win a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN1978 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 It is a shame the Michael Irvin made it in a couple of years ago. Sure he was on three teams that won the super bowl, but Carter, Brown, and Reed would have too had they played on those Dallas teams. Are you saying the team Reed played for wasn't good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) I think Kennedy, and Doleman aee horrible nominations(As far as the HoF goes). Roaf i'm kind of meh on, but I will say Martin belongs. 130 TD's over 17000 yards from scrimmage,thats a grear career for a running back. Martin had a much better career than Bettis. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BettJe00.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MartCu00.htm Edited February 5, 2012 by mob16151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 That is the worst bunch of inductee's I've ever saw. You got to be Joking. No Haley, Reed or Chris Carter. Who paid off the voters. How can you even take the Hall of fame Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmocdr Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 This is the worst induction class every! Does not make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Unless I'm mistaken, Andre played in four times as many Super Bowls as this entire class of enshrinees combined (Dawson: 1. The rest: zero.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Unless I'm mistaken, Andre played in four times as many Super Bowls as this entire class of enshrinees combined (Dawson: 1. The rest: zero.) While I'm not a fan of this class, and think Reed should have been in the first time he was eligible, what does this classes Superbowl appearances have to do with anything. Because if you extend that reasoning to it's logical conclusion, then a guy like Barry Sanders shouldn't be a HoF'er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) While I'm not a fan of this class, and think Reed should have been in the first time he was eligible, what does this classes Superbowl appearances have to do with anything. Because if you extend that reasoning to it's logical conclusion, then a guy like Barry Sanders shouldn't be a HoF'er. It doesn't have anything to do with it. Just thought it was interesting. I'm willing to bet you can go a long way back before finding another class with a combined zero Super Bowl rings. And that's RINGS, not just appearances. I just did, in fact, and went back to the mid-70s (when SB winners started becoming eligible for the most part) before giving up. The closest I came was 1991 when no player had a ring but Tex Schramm, who did, was also a class member. Edited February 5, 2012 by BRH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I don't get the Roaf hate or whoever said they never heard of him. He was a perennial All Pro - not just a perennial Pro Bowler. I actually thought he would be a first ballot guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 It doesn't have anything to do with it. Just thought it was interesting. I'm willing to bet you can go a long way back before finding another class with a combined zero Super Bowl rings. I just did, in fact, and went back to the mid-70s (when SB winners started becoming eligible for the most part) before giving up. The closest I came was 1991 when no player had a ring but Tex Schramm, who did, was also a class member. Got you. I wasn't sure where you were going with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 When I saw the list of 15, I really thought that this would be the year they used to break open the logjam at WR and elect Reed and Carter. That would have left room for Martin, an OL and one more. I agree with many that Kennedy and Doleman were nice players but not extraordinary. I would have gone 1 step further and elected Reed, Carter and Brown then added Dawson and Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Someone needs to explain to me how Art Monk is in the HOF and Reed, Carter, and Brown are not? This is total BS. Cortez Kennedy? I was shocked he even made it to to the final ten let alone gets enshrined. Doleman? You have got to be kidding. Martin has the numbers but he could have waited a few years. Roaf and Dawson are worthy. I can't see Reed ever making it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 For Andre, there's always the dreaded Veteran's Committee. Of course, this year they denied Dick Stanfel, which I think is the first one I remember that didn't get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Andre & Tuna got robbed... and Chris friggin' Doleman over Charles Haley is beyond ridiculous. If Willie Roaf was a true HOF-er, the Saints wouldn't have given him away to the Chiefs for a song while he still had quality years in him. Dawson belongs, meh on Kennedy, meh on C-Mart, Andre is far more worthy. Glad that Cris Carter didn't make it though, and also glad that the Bus didn't make the Final 10. Clearly you don't know the stories about Joe horn sleeping with Willie roafs wife for an extended period before Willie finding out and flying off the deepens on ol Joe. Wasn't a good situation or a choice made based on talent. Willie was leaving, just a matter of if he was going to jail for killing his "teammate" in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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