JMM Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Thoughts about a trade for him? Could we even afford what he will want? And what would it take pick wise. A proven commodity, but costly. I'm not sure I would do it because of this amazing draft for WRs. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 We need a 1, not a 2. Slim pickings I know, I'd rather take our chances drafting one. 6 17 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, JMM said: Thoughts about a trade for him? Could we even afford what he will want? And what would it take pick wise. A proven commodity, but costly. I'm not sure I would do it because of this amazing draft for WRs. I wouldn’t do it for a 2024 pick but now with two seconds in 2025 those would be in play for a receiver of his caliber they definitely have the room to afford his salary next year. You add Aiyuk and then draft a couple guys this year you are just fine and you haven’t mortgage so much that you can continue to draft for areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Aiyuk serious? 4 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I really like Aiyuk. I would do a deal that doesn’t include this year’s first rounder. Then I would structure an extension that gives him a low cap hit this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 7 minutes ago, TonyBeets said: We need a 1, not a 2. Slim pickings I know, I'd rather take our chances drafting one. I would rather draft one too but I think Aiyuk could be a good #1 as well. He got 105 targets last year and I think if you give him 30 more with the Bills...I think we could see a Diggs from MN to Buffalo type of increase in production. From what I know about Aiyuk is he's a yac guy and we need more of that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 35 minutes ago, JMM said: Thoughts about a trade for him? Could we even afford what he will want? And what would it take pick wise. A proven commodity, but costly. I'm not sure I would do it because of this amazing draft for WRs. Love the receiver. IMO probably too expensive. My guess is they bring in a significantly cheaper guy, probably an X who's a #2 in free agency. And one or two more in the draft. Certainly they could bring in Aiyuk if they wanted to. The question is whether it would be smart. That would depend on the contract. But he'll be expensive. Edited April 4 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Aiyuk is a beast and is a #1. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Id consider it for a 2nd round pick. Definitely not our first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I love Aiyuk, and could see it happen. But one of the reasons they are taking this 30 million cap hit imo is to clear the money at that position and go younger and cheaper. I highly doubt they turn around and trade for Aiyuk and then give him a huge contract. JMO 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Yes I’d love Aiyuk. He’d fit perfectly in this offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 So the problem obviously is the Bills will have to pay him right away, and my guess would be Diggs current deal is the floor of what that deal would be. Personally I don’t know much about the guy-can he separate, can he make catches in traffic, I have read that he is a good YAC guy, but is that because of the system he was in? I also don’t want the Bills giving up their first round pick. If the 49ers came to the Bills with an offer they should listen, I’m not convinced the Bills should be calling them though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I would rather draft one too but I think Aiyuk could be a good #1 as well. He got 105 targets last year and I think if you give him 30 more with the Bills...I think we could see a Diggs from MN to Buffalo type of increase in production. From what I know about Aiyuk is he's a yac guy and we need more of that. In a way I would rather keep a guy like Aiyuk closer to his current rate of 100 ish receptions, and have the ability to spread the ball around more, imo it keeps defenses a bit more off balance when they aren’t sure who is being targeted, we forced to many passes to Diggs, making us pretty predictable for big chunks of games, jmo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 34 minutes ago, JMM said: Thoughts about a trade for him? Could we even afford what he will want? And what would it take pick wise. A proven commodity, but costly. I'm not sure I would do it because of this amazing draft for WRs. I'd rather take my chances in the draft. Aiyuk is very good, but to me he's not a clearcut WR1 and wasn't one in SF...oh, and he wants to be paid. Seems like a bad year to trade draft assets for a guy like this... Edited April 4 by mannc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 If we can keep pick 28, I'm listening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Most importantly, does this guy show up in the postseason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I'd offer a 2nd this year a 3rd next year that could move to 2nd if incentives are met. I'd rather not even offer that, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 His YPC was an insane 17.9 this year. How much is the system / how much is him? If it's mostly his pure talent, he could put up huge numbers here with more targets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 38 minutes ago, JMM said: Thoughts about a trade for him? Could we even afford what he will want? And what would it take pick wise. A proven commodity, but costly. I'm not sure I would do it because of this amazing draft for WRs. It's the $$$ that worries me. I'd rather draft WRs on rookie contracts than pay top dollar for FAs. Josh can turn these talented rookies into Aiyuk type players 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 twos? 60 and the the Vikings 2nd. Ayuik last year had more yards and Tds than diggs on over 50 less targets. I would be all in on Ayuik. Instantly, steps in as a number one. Opens the first rd back up. I think if he is in play Beane will wait and see until draft night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I want a good WR out of the draft that can grow into that #1 role and be on a cost controlled rookie deal for the next 4-5 seasons. I do not want to give up high picks and then pay a guy top dollar on top of it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: So the problem obviously is the Bills will have to pay him right away, and my guess would be Diggs current deal is the floor of what that deal would be. Personally I don’t know much about the guy-can he separate, can he make catches in traffic, I have read that he is a good YAC guy, but is that because of the system he was in? I also don’t want the Bills giving up their first round pick. If the 49ers came to the Bills with an offer they should listen, I’m not convinced the Bills should be calling them though I don't think the Bills would have to pay him big money right away. It's part of what makes Aiyuk attractive, his first year here would be a reasonable salary. The Bills could structure it for a multi-year contract with guaranteed money for later years. The real benefit is the reduction of risk in the 2024 season. I think the FO would really have to figure out Aiyuk's fit here though - culture/diva wise. It's not a good look forcing his way out of SF and we just went through it. Getting Rookies and penciling them in as pretty much WR1-ish is riskier than we have seen out of Beane in the past. But if the Bills can do it and go with rookies it really transitions this team to a Josh lead juggernaut. Getting the likes of McConkey/K Coleman/T Franklin/Legette would solidify Josh as the leader of this team and get the team with an offense that has a core that will be together for multiple years (Kincaid/Cook/Shakir/rookie WR). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I'm weary about players who try forcing their teams into tough spots. It always seems to happen with WR's. Ego position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Yes please. It would be more expensive in draft capital to go up for one of the top WR’s than it would for Aiyuk. Not interested in the Jalen Reagor/Justin Jefferson roulette game when it comes to drafting WR’s in that range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaldimandBills Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 two 2nds for Aiyuk and draft a receiver at 28 and you might break the NFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: Yes please. It would be more expensive in draft capital to go up for one of the top WR’s than it would for Aiyuk. Not interested in the Jalen Reagor/Justin Jefferson roulette game when it comes to drafting WR’s in that range. it will be 80-100 million more expensive for next 4 years of Aiyuk though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, HaldimandBills said: two 2nds for Aiyuk and draft a receiver at 28 and you might break the NFL. Why couldn’t we get Aiyuk for one second round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, mannc said: Why couldn’t we get Aiyuk for one second round pick? Because the Niners are going to want more for a player with a 17.9 YPC that just turned 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) If they make a move on any veteran WR I expect it to be after the draft. Prob want to see what they end up with. Maybe it’s just me as well but I never considered Aiyuk to be a # 1 WR deserving of 20-25 million a year. Edited April 4 by gonzo1105 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Because the Niners are going to want more for a player with a 17.9 YPC that just turned 26 The Niners can want more, but if no one else wants to pay it, that’s really irrelevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Trade a 2025 2nd that can become a 1st based on production Then trade our 2024 1st and other 2025 2nd to move up for Brian Thomas Jr Still have our 2nd this year plus a 1st or 2nd next year Get er done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaldimandBills Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, mannc said: Why couldn’t we get Aiyuk for one second round pick? Because he's 26 and has 5 seasons of prime ball ahead of him. It would be the Diggs trade all over again only this time the Bills have Kincaid, Cook, Shakir, Samuel, Knox and a much better oline instead of Beasley, washed up Brown, Isiah Mckenzie and a rookie 4th rounder in Gabe Davis and Knox, Singletary, and pathetic oline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: it will be 80-100 million more expensive for next 4 years of Aiyuk though Yes, but we’re not paying any of our skill position players top end of market right now. Shakir, Kincaid and Cook are cost controlled for at least another 2 years. Knox took a paycut. Yes, it would be great if we could draft a stud WR who’s immediately a #1WR but the odds are well below 50% where we are drafting. And I’m not wasting a year of prime Josh on those odds. Give me the 80-90% sure thing in Aiyuk. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 7 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: I don't think the Bills would have to pay him big money right away. It's part of what makes Aiyuk attractive, his first year here would be a reasonable salary. The Bills could structure it for a multi-year contract with guaranteed money for later years. The real benefit is the reduction of risk in the 2024 season. I think the FO would really have to figure out Aiyuk's fit here though - culture/diva wise. It's not a good look forcing his way out of SF and we just went through it. Getting Rookies and penciling them in as pretty much WR1-ish is riskier than we have seen out of Beane in the past. But if the Bills can do it and go with rookies it really transitions this team to a Josh lead juggernaut. Getting the likes of McConkey/K Coleman/T Franklin/Legette would solidify Josh as the leader of this team and get the team with an offense that has a core that will be together for multiple years (Kincaid/Cook/Shakir/rookie WR). His contract is why he is available. That would be part of the deal and possibly how they lower compensation. His yard per catch and target are very high. Would be a #1 on this offense and has big play ability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I don't know if Seattle would actually move him, but I'd rather go after DK Metcalf. I'd offer 60, a 2025 2nd and 4th. Then I'd take Xavier Worthy at 28 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaldimandBills Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, mannc said: The Niners can want more, but if no one else wants to pay it, that’s really irrelevant. Hey if a 2nd is all it takes then sign me up. He just has a lot more value than Diggs so I struggle to see him on the move for just a 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, Process said: Trade a 2025 2nd that can become a 1st based on production Then trade our 2024 1st and other 2025 2nd to move up for Brian Thomas Jr Still have our 2nd this year plus a 1st or 2nd next year Get er done I’d sign off on that, but I think it takes more than that to get Thomas, Jr….id be ok sticking at 28 and taking Franklin or Leggette or Mitchell… 1 minute ago, HaldimandBills said: Hey if a 2nd is all it takes then sign me up. He just has a lot more value than Diggs so I struggle to see him on the move for just a 2nd. The Bills didn’t actually get a second for Diggs. They gave up two picks and are getting a second next year. 60 and maybe a 4th this year might be enough to get Aiyuk. I don’t see any team giving up their first for him in a draft year like this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I reallllly want him. I dont like our chances to land him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I would do it for the 2nd round picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaldimandBills Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 7 minutes ago, mannc said: I’d sign off on that, but I think it takes more than that to get Thomas, Jr….id be ok sticking at 28 and taking Franklin or Leggette or Mitchell… The Bills didn’t actually get a second for Diggs. They gave up two picks and are getting a second next year. 60 and maybe a 4th this year might be enough to get Aiyuk. I don’t see any team giving up their first for him in a draft year like this one. I know they didn't get a 2nd this year. You trade pick # 60 which is basically a 3rd and the Bills own 2nd next year which will fall in the 50 to 64 range. That Vikings pick they received has a good chance of being in the 33 to 50 range. It would amount to a trade of 31 year old Diggs, two late 2nds in the 2024 and 2025 draft plus a 6th 2024 and 5th 2025 pick for 26 year old Aiyuk and a early 2025 2nd round pick unless you think the Vikings are going to come on like gang busters. I dont and im happy all day every day with that trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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