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Warriorspikes51 Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 Oliver DaQuan A. Johnson D. Williams Eli Ankou Maybe...hopefully....better than last year's group? Both of these new additions produced many more tackles in run defense than Phillips, Settle, Ford Could we still take a DT in Round 1 or 2? Yes, but it would seem less likely now 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Williams is only 295 lbs. Would have preferred a DT at least 310+ lbs. 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Oliver DaQuan A. Johnson D. Williams Eli Ankou Maybe...hopefully....better than last year's group? Both of these new additions produced many more tackles in run defense than Phillips, Settle, Ford Could we still take a DT in Round 1 or 2? Yes, but it would seem less likely now I would agree less likely unless someone unexpected drops to them. Maybe Sweat at 60 would be good value? I do expect another guy drafted at some point though. Day 3 type. Edited March 28 by BuffaloBillyG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 minute ago, I'm Spartacus said: Williams is only 295 lbs. Would have preferred a DT at least 310+ lbs. Enough with the skinny-shaming, is this place not moderated anymore?!?! 1 20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 Just now, BuffaloBillyG said: I would agree less likely unless someone unexpected drops to them. Maybe Sweat at 60 would be good value? I do expect another guy drafted at some point though. Day 3 type. I would absolutely consider Sweat at 60 depending what WR's are on the board 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 minute ago, I'm Spartacus said: Williams is only 295 lbs. Would have preferred a DT at least 310+ lbs. Weight isn't everything. Jordan Phillips was over 330lbs and got pushed in the run game a lot. If he's 295lbs and can still absorb the blocks so be it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Oliver DaQuan A. Johnson D. Williams Eli Ankou Maybe...hopefully....better than last year's group? Both of these new additions produced many more tackles in run defense than Phillips, Settle, Ford Could we still take a DT in Round 1 or 2? Yes, but it would seem less likely now It would be nice if some of them were younger and on longer deals. I don't think this takes DT off the draft board for us, but could let us kick the can down the road to next year. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Enough with the skinny-shaming, is this place not moderated anymore?!?! Huh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Just now, I'm Spartacus said: Huh? never mind 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: Williams is only 295 lbs. Would have preferred a DT at least 310+ lbs. That's what DaQuan Jones and Austin Johnson are. 1TDTs. Big bodies. Run stoppers and gap pluggers. Williams is a 3TDT. Pass rusher. Gap shooter. 295 is fine for that. 8 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 7 minutes ago, Virgil said: It would be nice if some of them were younger and on longer deals. I don't think this takes DT off the draft board for us, but could let us kick the can down the road to next year. No need to tie up extra $ on long term deals for rotational DT's 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 13 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: Williams is only 295 lbs. Would have preferred a DT at least 310+ lbs. So, you would've passed on Aaron Donald? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: It would be nice if some of them were younger and on longer deals. I don't think this takes DT off the draft board for us, but could let us kick the can down the road to next year. At the least, I think it puts Beane in position to truly take BPA. I may not *love* all of our starters, but seemingly everyone is at bridge-starter level. I might prefer a WR or DB, but if a game wrecker falls and they're a D-line or O-line piece, I can live with that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 (edited) 2 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: At the least, I think it puts Beane in position to truly take BPA. I may not *love* all of our starters, but seemingly everyone is at bridge-starter level. I might prefer a WR or DB, but if a game wrecker falls and they're a D-line or O-line piece, I can live with that. An immediate starter at WR2 with size/speed or both is likely to have the most impact on the team IMO Of course, this staff would need to actually play the draft pick. Slow playing Cook, Kincaid and Shakir was annoying. If we take WR at 28 or higher, PLAY THEM IMMEDIATELY AND OFTEN! Edited March 28 by Warriorspikes51 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: An immediate starter at WR2 with size/speed or both is likely to have the most impact on the team IMO Of course, this staff would need to actually play the draft pick. Slow playing Cook, Kincaid and Shakir was annoying. If we take WR at 28 or higher, PLAY THEM IMMEDIATELY AND OFTEN! I mean I don't disagree. But if there is a run on WR and there is just no one they like and there is a guy who should have been top 15, I'll take that and pick WR in the 2nd round. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: An immediate starter at WR2 with size/speed or both is likely to have the most impact on the team IMO Of course, this staff would need to actually play the draft pick. Slow playing Cook, Kincaid and Shakir was annoying. If we take WR at 28 or higher, PLAY THEM IMMEDIATELY AND OFTEN! Well, they started Torrence from the first day of camp, so let's hope they are able to go that route with the WR they draft 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, Special K said: Well, they started Torrence from the first day of camp, so let's hope they are able to go that route with the WR they draft Yes, great point! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I'm confused... so, does this mean they're trading Diggs or not?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 40 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Oliver DaQuan A. Johnson D. Williams Eli Ankou Maybe...hopefully....better than last year's group? Both of these new additions produced many more tackles in run defense than Phillips, Settle, Ford Could we still take a DT in Round 1 or 2? Yes, but it would seem less likely now Considering that the two backups only signed one year deals I don't see how limits us drafting a quality DT in the early part of the draft since need to find a long term answer to replace DaQuan who likely on his last contract for the next two seasons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I thought this off-season wasn't going to be very active. Beane has been pounding it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 42 minutes ago, Logic said: That's what DaQuan Jones and Austin Johnson are. 1TDTs. Big bodies. Run stoppers and gap pluggers. Williams is a 3TDT. Pass rusher. Gap shooter. 295 is fine for that. you have the patience of a saint, Logic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 53 minutes ago, TPS said: So, you would've passed on Aaron Donald? No, of course not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 All of this is semi-mute if Von craps the bed again. But, DE at 28 or move up even is the pick. Latu. He will make this D line perfect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 15 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: All of this is semi-mute if Von craps the bed again. But, DE at 28 or move up even is the pick. Latu. He will make this D line perfect. Are you suggesting that Von may be done, for all intensive porpoises? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, transient said: Are you suggesting that Von may be done, for all intensive porpoises? This ain’t no dolphin ICU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, transient said: Are you suggesting that Von may be done, for all intensive porpoises? Nope - but if he isn't back we need help at DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Pro Football Reference website lists Johnson at 314 lbs, 6' 4". 🤔 That a big enough Johnson for ya? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Good solid DT Corp now. It should be improved from last year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Draft one or two guys to ease into the line up. Beane knows how to build a team with vets and young guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ski Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: never mind some people just can't get a joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Oliver DaQuan A. Johnson D. Williams Eli Ankou Maybe...hopefully....better than last year's group? Both of these new additions produced many more tackles in run defense than Phillips, Settle, Ford Could we still take a DT in Round 1 or 2? Yes, but it would seem less likely now Definitely at least as good as LY, on paper. I'd expect we get better output than Phillips/Settle/Ford. But the bar is low, those 3 guys didn't do much. I still expect a DT to be drafted. We've ignored that for years now, and at least someone to push for the backup 3T. Beane doing his thing, get gaps filled prior to the draft. Now he can focus on BPA. WR & pass rusher, still our biggest areas that we can improve/biggest impact. Going to be interesting how things play out at 28. Depends if Latu is still sitting around mid- 20s, I think they have alot of names at X-receiver that will be value at 28. Problem is what type of run on WRs will happen in early R2. If we go DE in first, I'd certainly expect a trade up into the 40s for a WR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I just hope that Williams has close to zero guaranteed money (like Toohill, unlike Morrow), so he can be easily cut when we keep 5-6th round rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 The Bills will take a WR in round 1. Take that ish to the bank. They can't afford to wait until pick #60 for their eventual Diggs replacement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 hours ago, boater said: I thought this off-season wasn't going to be very active. Beane has been pounding it. If you're saying what I think you're saying, I too have a had a very busy off-season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Pro Football Reference website lists Johnson at 314 lbs, 6' 4". 🤔 That a big enough Johnson for ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said: Williams is only 295 lbs. Would have preferred a DT at least 310+ lbs. a pro athlete who weighs 295 could put on 10-12pounds easily-healthily over the course of 30 days by drinking a gallon of milk (mixed with protein after a workouts) after 6 PM every nite...kids do this at my gym every summer to bulk up for football season at the high school and college level...btw how much does Ed Oliver weigh, quickness counts as well, no ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 8 minutes ago, Punching Bag said: Diggs was selected in the fifth round with the 146th overall pick by the Minnesota Vikings in the 2015 NFL draft so I do not see why it is NECESSARY to replace him with a first round pick. EASIER? Maybe but there are a number of busts in every round. Some college WRs cannot adjust to NFL Diggs, a 5th round pick, did better than many picks before him. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DiggSt00.htm More important that they pick the right player and get him in sync with Josh. I think the idea is that more elite players are drafted higher in the draft rather than lower, but sure, could another 5th round pick end up being a top 5 elite WR ? Yeah but that player is more likely drafted in the 1st or 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said: Williams is only 295 lbs. Would have preferred a DT at least 310+ lbs. He will back up Oliver. Johnson at 310-315 backs up Jones. Williams was in a 3-4 5 tech DL position rushing in a contain position over the OT. The Bills DTs are more attack style. He’s 303 and has started 44 games over the past 4 years. Around 50% snaps. If he remains the 4 DT, he should get 30-35% snaps. Good fit. Remains to be seen if he and Johnson bring more as backups than the past few years. Certainly hope so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Punching Bag said: Diggs was selected in the fifth round with the 146th overall pick by the Minnesota Vikings in the 2015 NFL draft so I do not see why it is NECESSARY to replace him with a first round pick. EASIER? Maybe but there are a number of busts in every round. Some college WRs cannot adjust to NFL Diggs, a 5th round pick, did better than many picks before him. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DiggSt00.htm More important that they pick the right player and get him in sync with Josh. And Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. No point in taking 1st round QBs either, I guess? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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