nucci Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, RkFast said: Then a boat. Or putting a pool and patio with kitchen in your yard. Or maybe a second "hobby" car, like a Vette or some classic car. Or if youre me and really into cycling, a pro-level road bike ($12-$14K). A PSL is no different than stuff like the above in that its part of the "cost" of the thing that one enjoys for recreation. And if youre one of those folks who make going to Bills games in OP a priority in your life for fun and rec time with friends and family, this is the current price of participation in 2024. Thats not to sound callous...it sucks that so many things have gotten expensive. to most people a car is a necessity. The other things along with Bills games are hobby's and luxury's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 13 minutes ago, nucci said: to most people a car is a necessity. The other things along with Bills games are hobby's and luxury's. There's a difference in price from a toyota to say a lexus or mercedes though. I think this would fall into that latter category. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I dubbed PSLs Permanent Sucker Licenses long ago when Baltimore levied them. My friend held his PSL for probably 10+ years and sold it below cost. All the promises that they were an investment didn't materialize. And the fine print that most didn't understand here was that you had to continue to buy season tickets. If you failed to buy tickets or sell the PSL, it would be forfeited back to the team. Hence Permanent Sucker Licenses. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) If they are going to ask for $20k to $50K PSLs then they should of built a dome. That was the reason I figured they didn't even try to build the dome, because they would have to charge stupid money and the area couldn't afford it. I was going to buy season tickets myself as I plan on being retired and back in Buffalo by the time the Stadium is built, but definitely will not now. I'm also not going to worry about missing games because I don't have that streaming service. I'm reaching my breaking point of what I think is a logical price to pay to watch Pro-Football I hope many Bills fans are in the NFW category Edited March 27 by ddaryl 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 29 minutes ago, nucci said: to most people a car is a necessity. The other things along with Bills games are hobby's and luxury's. Bills game not a necessity? Don’t tell my wife that, been telling her for 28 years Bills before her! 3 minutes ago, wjag said: I dubbed PSLs Permanent Sucker Licenses long ago when Baltimore levied them. My friend held his PSL for probably 10+ years and sold it below cost. All the promises that they were an investment didn't materialize. And the fine print that most didn't understand here was that you had to continue to buy season tickets. If you failed to buy tickets or sell the PSL, it would be forfeited back to the team. Hence Permanent Sucker Licenses. If someone bought PSLs as an investment , it ain’t a team problem promising to much , it’s a him/her problem not being bright enough to understand the realities of the marketplace. i would say the moment Josh retires ( unless Bills get crazy lucky and get another franchise QB) PSLs will be had for somewhere between. 25 and 50 cents on the dollar price paid today. and of course you have to buy the tickets. You own those seats. If you don’t buy them, team can’t sell them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just now, ddaryl said: If they are going to ask for $20k to $50K PSLs then they should of built a dome. That was the reason I figured they didn't even try to build the dome, because they would have to charge stupid money and the area couldn't afford it. I was going to buy season tickets myself as I plan on being retired and back in Buffalo by the time the Stadium is built, but definitely will not now. I'm also not going to worry about missing games because I don't have that streaming service. I'm reaching my breaking point of what I think is a logical price to pay to watch Pro-Football If you want to sit if the fanciest seats and at midfield, then it’s $20k! Do you sit in the fanciest best seats in the house when you go to games now? If not why worry what those folks are paying. It’s their money, spend it how they wannt. as mentioned over and over , 20k is for CLUB SEATS ,MIDFIELD , HEATER, GREAT FOOD , SPECIAL ENTRANCE , BETTER POTTIES ,BAR TABS , HIGH END BOOZE PROLLY EVEN SMOKING HOT 26YEAR OLD BARTENDERS AND SERVERS BRINGING DRINKS TO YOUR SEATS ! if ya don’t have those things or are willing to pay for them, your PSL will be DRAMTICALLY lower. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I'm glad I watch at home. I live on the west coast so season tickets are not even an option. I'm glad I got to go to a lot of games as a kid. I have to admit that with all the gambling $$$$$ involved these days; it would be hard to invest so much in a league that claims in court defense to be an 'entertainment' business like Championship Wrestling. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: If you want to sit if the fanciest seats and at midfield, then it’s $20k! Do you sit in the fanciest best seats in the house when you go to games now? If not why worry what those folks are paying. It’s their money, spend it how they wannt. as mentioned over and over , 20k is for CLUB SEATS ,MIDFIELD , HEATER, GREAT FOOD , SPECIAL ENTRANCE , BETTER POTTIES ,BAR TABS , HIGH END BOOZE PROLLY EVEN SMOKING HOT 26YEAR OLD BARTENDERS AND SERVERS BRINGING DRINKS TO YOUR SEATS ! if ya don’t have those things or are willing to pay for them, your PSL will be DRAMTICALLY lower. Some are still in shock over $7/month for Peacock 😂😂😂 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: If you want to sit if the fanciest seats and at midfield, then it’s $20k! Do you sit in the fanciest best seats in the house when you go to games now? If not why worry what those folks are paying. It’s their money, spend it how they wannt. as mentioned over and over , 20k is for CLUB SEATS ,MIDFIELD , HEATER, GREAT FOOD , SPECIAL ENTRANCE , BETTER POTTIES ,BAR TABS , HIGH END BOOZE PROLLY EVEN SMOKING HOT 26YEAR OLD BARTENDERS AND SERVERS BRINGING DRINKS TO YOUR SEATS ! if ya don’t have those things or are willing to pay for them, your PSL will be DRAMTICALLY lower. Yep its their money.. I'm just getting tired of it. Never a fan of PSLs and I am not interested in upper deck seats that are affordable. Sick and tired of prime time games on different streaming services and I don't think diehard lifelong fans should be priced out of the better seats Spend your money... I would not, I do not see the value, and I hope others fell this way to 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Can you sell the PSL to anyone other than the Bills? To add onto the fine answer from @Mr Info you won’t be able to sell a PSL back to the Bills. They will reacquire and resell PSLs that are defaulted on, but they won’t be buying them back from holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 11 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Some are still in shock over $7/month for Peacock 😂😂😂 Great analogy A better one would be paying $500 for the 'right' to purchase Peacock at $7/month. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 33 minutes ago, wjag said: I dubbed PSLs Permanent Sucker Licenses long ago when Baltimore levied them. My friend held his PSL for probably 10+ years and sold it below cost. All the promises that they were an investment didn't materialize. And the fine print that most didn't understand here was that you had to continue to buy season tickets. If you failed to buy tickets or sell the PSL, it would be forfeited back to the team. Hence Permanent Sucker Licenses. I’ll say this about the PSLs. Your friend that had his and sold them below cost. Was that below the cost that he paid? I’d say of course you aren’t going to get exactly what you paid. He did attend games for 10+ years did he not? I’m curious as to how much he paid for a PSL, then how much he got for them 10 years later. Can’t expect you wouldn’t have to to cover some of the cost of going to games for 10 years for nothing. But you better believe this right now. If they charge me $5k a PSL and they then win the Super Bowl that year, you better believe you will make a profit off them if you sell. But low, sell high. Don’t wait until Allen is gone and they suck again, you’ll be left holding the bag. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 11 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Yep its their money.. I'm just getting tired of it. Never a fan of PSLs and I am not interested in upper deck seats that are affordable. Sick and tired of prime time games on different streaming services and I don't think diehard lifelong fans should be priced out of the better seats Spend your money... I would not, I do not see the value, and I hope others fell this way to So what’s the solution? The Bills are a business. Should they not get what the market will support? Should there be a designated number of “rent controlled” seats like NY apartments? If so, what’s the number? What’s the appropriate way to handle the situation other than pricing the stadium to have supply and demand intersect? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: So what’s the solution? The Bills are a business. Should they not get what the market will support? Should there be a designated number of “rent controlled” seats like NY apartments? If so, what’s the number? What’s the appropriate way to handle the situation other than pricing the stadium to have supply and demand intersect? Forget it. People won’t ever accept that there will be plenty of seating options for them to go to games. They just want to complain that they can’t sit mid field, 20 rows up, under cover of elements for $100/game anymore 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 12 minutes ago, mrags said: I’ll say this about the PSLs. Your friend that had his and sold them below cost. Was that below the cost that he paid? I’d say of course you aren’t going to get exactly what you paid. He did attend games for 10+ years did he not? I’m curious as to how much he paid for a PSL, then how much he got for them 10 years later. Can’t expect you wouldn’t have to to cover some of the cost of going to games for 10 years for nothing. But you better believe this right now. If they charge me $5k a PSL and they then win the Super Bowl that year, you better believe you will make a profit off them if you sell. But low, sell high. Don’t wait until Allen is gone and they suck again, you’ll be left holding the bag. My best memory is that he paid 3500 per PSL and had four seats for a total of 14K. He sold the four seats PSL for 11K. The issues may be different in LA or NY, but I suspect small market teams won't recover initial costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, wjag said: My best memory is that he paid 3500 per PSL and had four seats for a total of 14K. He sold the four seats PSL for 11K. The issues may be different in LA or NY, but I suspect small market teams won't recover initial costs. So he basically paid 3k in PSLs for 10+ years of use. That’s not terrible. Of course things are likely different now. But besides the point. He made more than enough money back after attending games for 10 years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardFan Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 3/26/2024 at 10:51 AM, mrags said: You better believe that as soon as ticket prices around the league have risen to the point of unattainable by the real fan, they will raise tv rates. It’s 100% a guarantee. In fact it’s probably Their end game. There’s way more money in it that ticket sales. More likely the NFL Network will carry ALL games with most if not all being PPV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 30 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Yep its their money.. I'm just getting tired of it. Never a fan of PSLs and I am not interested in upper deck seats that are affordable. Sick and tired of prime time games on different streaming services and I don't think diehard lifelong fans should be priced out of the better seats Spend your money... I would not, I do not see the value, and I hope others fell this way to So you say yourself “ upper deck seats that are affordable”. Guess you never fly cause sounds like you ain’t willing to pay to sit in first class, and economy does not provide those same amenities. now, if I paid the $20k and the bartender was some fifty year old fat dude vs a smoking hot young lady, then I might get my hair all up in a dander! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 minute ago, DieHardFan said: More likely the NFL Network will carry ALL games with most if not all being PPV. Perfect. Hope it happens. Then I can cancel a lot of streaming and cable services that I don’t need and just buy Bills games PPV. If I’m not already there that is with my crazy PSLs 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: So you say yourself “ upper deck seats that are affordable”. Guess you never fly cause sounds like you ain’t willing to pay to sit in first class, and economy does not provide those same amenities. now, if I paid the $20k and the bartender was some fifty year old fat dude vs a smoking hot young lady, then I might get my hair all up in a dander! Let’s be real. You want the 50 year old fat dude in a kilt. Oh crap. That’s @JÂy RÛßeÒ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardFan Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 3/26/2024 at 10:53 AM, muppy said: Yes they will. And I do think that is reasonable. But my buddy who has had season tickets since 1986 has told me that trying to buy seasons to resell to pay for profit never has worked. Recoup funds yes, Profit no. SO a small fortune to attend an NFL game. Yippee 🎉 *sigh* Depends on where they are, had 4 STs in S114 R1 on the aisle and moved to S135 R5 2 years ago (thinking senority and section would matter) and have sold 3 for most games for the last 7 -8 years and got my seat and made an average of $3K yearly with a max of $5K. And that's after TM fees and markup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, mrags said: Perfect. Hope it happens. Then I can cancel a lot of streaming and cable services that I don’t need and just buy Bills games PPV. If I’m not already there that is with my crazy PSLs Let’s be real. You want the 50 year old fat dude in a kilt. Oh crap. That’s @JÂy RÛßeÒ I keep forgetting that fat dress wearin old bastard is in my town now! Jay, I m callin ya brother ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, ddaryl said: If they are going to ask for $20k to $50K PSLs then they should of built a dome. That was the reason I figured they didn't even try to build the dome, because they would have to charge stupid money and the area couldn't afford it. I was going to buy season tickets myself as I plan on being retired and back in Buffalo by the time the Stadium is built, but definitely will not now. I'm also not going to worry about missing games because I don't have that streaming service. I'm reaching my breaking point of what I think is a logical price to pay to watch Pro-Football I hope many Bills fans are in the NFW category I can only speak for myself, and it's not merely the PSLs but the overpriced tix generally speaking these days, particularly on the secondary market where companies like Ticketmaster screw people over despite it being "legal," but sports have generally gotten out of hand in that way. I have trouble being raked over the coals and being blackmailed that if we want a team then we need to ante up whether it's taxes of PSLs and expensive tickets, parking, etc. making little difference. Some of these players make 7-figures on a per-game basis and it's getting worse. Many easily make into the 6-figure territory per game, and while I don't have STs, I know plenty of people that do and aren't making even 6-figures per year. At some point I stepped back and started thinking that it's madness. I detest the NFL, love the Bills, but at some point I simply have to say enough is enough. Edited March 27 by PBF81 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: I can only speak for myself, and it's not merely the PSLs but the overpriced tix generally speaking these days, particularly on the secondary market where companies like Ticketmaster screw people over despite it being "legal," but sports have generally gotten out of hand in that way. I have trouble being raked over the coals and being blackmailed that if we want a team then we need to ante up whether it's taxes of PSLs and expensive tickets, parking, etc. making little difference. Some of these players make 7-figures on a per-game basis and it's getting worse. Many easily make into the 6-figure territory, and while I don't have STs, I know plenty of people that do and aren't making even 6-figures per season. At some point I stepped back and started thinking that it's madness. I detest the NFL, love the Bills, but at some point I simply have to say enough is enough. That’s absolutely your right and you should do what you want! I understand it 100%. I also understand the Bills have the right to charge what they do and another fan has the right to pay that! God Bless America! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardFan Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 3/26/2024 at 12:26 PM, nucci said: Purchasing a football ticket and a car is not a good comparison. Right, more like buying a trailer or a time share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfBubbleGum Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Glad I didn't put a non refundable deposit on tickets that the PSL and ticket prices were unknown at the time. It's sad but I guess my days of going to at least one game a year are over. This game is only for the ultra rich now. But hey, the stadium won't sell out and the Pegulas will have reason to move their team (because it isn't ours anymore) anywhere they feel free too. Ridiculous! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, DieHardFan said: Right, more like buying a trailer or a time share. Great. Now we’re back to the timeshare discussion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 31 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: So what’s the solution? The Bills are a business. Should they not get what the market will support? Should there be a designated number of “rent controlled” seats like NY apartments? If so, what’s the number? What’s the appropriate way to handle the situation other than pricing the stadium to have supply and demand intersect? its up to the fans... All I said is I will not... 9 minutes ago, OutOfBubbleGum said: Glad I didn't put a non refundable deposit on tickets that the PSL and ticket prices were unknown at the time. It's sad but I guess my days of going to at least one game a year are over. This game is only for the ultra rich now. But hey, the stadium won't sell out and the Pegulas will have reason to move their team (because it isn't ours anymore) anywhere they feel free too. Ridiculous! They are locked in for 20+ years because of the agreement for the new stadium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 39 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: So what’s the solution? The Bills are a business. Should they not get what the market will support? Should there be a designated number of “rent controlled” seats like NY apartments? If so, what’s the number? What’s the appropriate way to handle the situation other than pricing the stadium to have supply and demand intersect? Why not just up the charge for season tickets? Instead of saying a seat costs $200, charge $400? This is really what’s happening. My theory, it locks people in more mentally this way AND it recovers the money quicker, plus when people lose money selling the tickets they can kind of mentally justify that it was a long term investment vs losing their ass on meaningless games on Dec. when nobody wants to go sit and freeze. To me, these charges are insaneLu high, but I guess they will take what they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) how about a real estate analogy (i'm sure this has already been made) price of the home = PSL one time fee (price varies per location) all the taxes = price of the yearly ticket (price varies per location) if you dont pay your yearly taxes, you may lose the house to foreclosure before you sell it squatter = someone is sitting in your seat....lol Edited March 27 by papazoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, ddaryl said: its up to the fans... All I said is I will not... I was responding to the part that said, “I don’t think that long term fans should be priced out of the best locations.” The “people can choose to pay what they want” is an easy topic. The part that I’m struggling with is a solution for the fans that have had the best locations for 50+ years. Why should they be excluded from the market value? 8 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Why not just up the charge for season tickets? Instead of saying a seat costs $200, charge $400? This is really what’s happening. My theory, it locks people in more mentally this way AND it recovers the money quicker, plus when people lose money selling the tickets they can kind of mentally justify that it was a long term investment vs losing their ass on meaningless games on Dec. when nobody wants to go sit and freeze. To me, these charges are insaneLu high, but I guess they will take what they can. It’s because of the way that revenue is shared in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 8 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t think it’ll be a “mass migration” but we will see some attrition. The only mass migration will be he people that were in the lower level between the 30’s. Those were the most underpriced seats in all of pro sports. Those people will move away from midfield or up. The people that we are hearing from now are the most vocal. I’d be curious to know what percentage of the people that have gone so far have declined. We know that some have been vocal but how many have declined? There are also people out there that aren’t current ticket holders because they couldn’t get a desirable enough location. We will see some of these people entering at the $50k PSL. It isn’t an enormous universe but when you look at the whole region (Toronto, Rochester, etc..) that will offset some of those people lowering their spend. I should be coming up soon (got the call the other day). It sounds like my PSL will be higher than I originally anticipated (at least I think). I was anticipating like $12k a seat ($15k on the high end). I think that it’ll now be $20k a seat. That’s annoying but I’m not likely to bail over it. The way that I’m looking at it, is an extra $20k (after finance fees over 10 years). It’s $2k more a year than I hoped. That sucks but I blow money on stuff that I care WAY less about than the Bills all of the time. $20k loan for 10 years at 10% interest is 11k in interest. So a 20k PSL will cost 31k. Ouch. Edited March 27 by WotAGuy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 38 minutes ago, ddaryl said: They are locked in for 20+ years because of the agreement for the new stadium That's a narrative that isn't really true. Let's start by asking, what happens should Pegula decide to move the team at any point once the stadium is up? Most people don't seem to understand that this supposed agreement really doesn't have very large teeth. Anyway, what happens, what's the "penalty" if they move? Let's start there and walk through why it's nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Any info leaking about the cost for the Takeo Spikes-level club seats? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: EVEN SMOKING HOT 26YEAR OLD BARTENDERS AND SERVERS BRINGING DRINKS TO YOUR SEATS ! My wife wants to know if the smoking hot bartenders and servers are male or female. Might affect “our” decision to buy. Edited March 27 by WotAGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: as mentioned over and over , 20k is for CLUB SEATS ,MIDFIELD , HEATER, GREAT FOOD , SPECIAL ENTRANCE , BETTER POTTIES ,BAR TABS , HIGH END BOOZE PROLLY EVEN SMOKING HOT 26YEAR OLD BARTENDERS AND SERVERS BRINGING DRINKS TO YOUR SEATS ! So many aren't understanding this, and it's certainly the fault of the Bills. There's too much misinformation going around and it's getting people fired up. I have two friends that were in a panic and both thought their upper deck STs are going to carry a crazy PSL because they saw that Lombardo clip on the news. The Bills should really make a statement that PSLs aren't finalized for 80% of the stadium yet or something to that effect (or just release the pricing). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: My wife wants to know if the smoking hot bartenders and servers are male or female. Might affect “our” decision to buy. I have it on good authority that they’re all male. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: My wife wants to know if the smoking hot bartenders and servers are male or female. Might affect “our” decision to buy. For your wife? I will personally bartend for her. 61 one year old, fat, balding, broken down Bills fan. I can even wear extra clothes for her! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 19 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: For your wife? I will personally bartend for her. 61 one year old, fat, balding, broken down Bills fan. I can even wear extra clothes for her! Ohh, you flatter yourself! 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, WotAGuy said: $20 loan for 10 years at 10% interest is 11k in interest. So a 20k PSL will cost 31k. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I'm curious as to how many people talking about PSLs have or ever had season tickets compared to people that buy single game tickets again compared to those who don't ever attend and watch on TV. Just wondering.... And that's not meant to be a shot at anyone, just trying to see the perspectives from each group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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