McDermott says a Lombardi is "not a matter of if, just a matter of when"

[Doc Brown]

6 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

This will turn into a McD bash thread, but I have no issues with his answers. Felt like something other than coach talk. 

That’s like predicting the sun will come up at this point.  Love what he said.  There’s going to be a lot of crow eating on this board when we do win one with him.

[DrBob806]

1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Yeh he was open cause Allen made the safety bite sucks that he can’t play offensive tackle and prevent Chris jones from bumping into his throwing lane. 
But hey that’s the life of Josh Allen get blame for what everybody else does. 

 

Josh should not be immune to criticism. Watch the replay.

[billsfan89]

7 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Stop giving Allen weapons chosen so low in the draft. Get him another Quality WR or two.  Then hit on draft picks for the DL instead of drafting guys that turn out to be JAGs.  That is what's left you can do.

They just drafted a pass catching TE in round one last year and then turned around and got the best guard in the draft in round 2. Lots of criticism of McD to go around but they did course correct a lot in the 2023 off season in terms of draft investment on offense 

[SoCal Deek]

46 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Yeah, I do jump to his defense, because I like to think that I've grown to understand a lot about how he thinks and how he approaches his job.   And I think his approach has been largely right. 

 

I don't criticize like some people here do, because I know I don't understand the nuanced details of offensive and defensive football strategy.   I'll see things that I'll question and write about, but I don't presume to understand.   For example, I've said here often over the past couple of years that I question whether McDermott's effort to load the roster with swiss army knives really is the best approach.   In the thread about Groot, I said that he's one of those guys who is very good in all the categories, and Oliver too, but that sooner or later you just need a flatout playmaker - a Chris Jones.  

 

But, yeah, in general, I plead guilty.   I write about the current Bills head coach in a positive fashion.   Hell, I was on the Jauron train for a lot longer that most.  Gailey, I backed him.   Even Rex a bit.  That's what I do. 

Okay that’s it! Nobody gets to defend Rex Ryan! That’s a bridge too far. 😂

[Gunsgoodtime]

2 hours ago, Mat68 said:

After Hill took it to the house on the last drive they played off coverage.  Screen to Hill and skinny post to Kelce took perfect advantage of the coverage.  What answer do players expect?  We are trying to bring in more athletic Dbs that can press to avoid those situations in the future? 

Sounds like you just described terrible coaching

[Shaw66]

12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Okay that’s it! Nobody gets to defend Rex Ryan! That’s a bridge too far. 😂

Hah, I try not to say bad things about Rex, so in those years it was hard to say much at all.   It's a measure of how desperate ESPN is that they hired him as analyst.  He rarely has anything useful to say. 

28 minutes ago, DrBob806 said:

Josh should not be immune to criticism. Watch the replay.

I'm pretty sure that Josh in fact said post-game that he needs to be better at sliding in the pocket.  That is, if he'd perceived in real time what actually was happening, he would have moved to get himself to a better place to make the throw.   And in fact, that's how these guys think - is there anything I could do better, anything, and how do I learn it?   I thought it was great self-awareness.  And, in the process, he didn't throw his lineman to the wolves.  

[Gunsgoodtime]

1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

Yeah, I do jump to his defense, because I like to think that I've grown to understand a lot about how he thinks and how he approaches his job.   And I think his approach has been largely right. 

 

I don't criticize like some people here do, because I know I don't understand the nuanced details of offensive and defensive football strategy.   I'll see things that I'll question and write about, but I don't presume to understand.   For example, I've said here often over the past couple of years that I question whether McDermott's effort to load the roster with swiss army knives really is the best approach.   In the thread about Groot, I said that he's one of those guys who is very good in all the categories, and Oliver too, but that sooner or later you just need a flatout playmaker - a Chris Jones.  

 

But, yeah, in general, I plead guilty.   I write about the current Bills head coach in a positive fashion.   Hell, I was on the Jauron train for a lot longer that most.  Gailey, I backed him.   Even Rex a bit.  That's what I do. 

That's fine if that's the mindset YOU want to have, but telling others OUR mindset (or mine specifically quoted) mindset is wrong because we see it differently than you is well, just wrong.  It's not just 1 or two of us.  I always thought you had a more level mindset, but its certainly now on the side of defending a coach that has proved nothing beyond the fact he can just make it to the playoffs before being trounced every single year and at the end of the day, underachieving with the best QB the team has ever had on the roster.  0 SB appearances, 1 AFCCG blowout.  Im not sure he could win it with Jesus himself out there at this point.  Just a reminder, Josh Allen is not Benjamin Button.

[Bruffalo]

I mean... Oof. 

 

Not a smart thing to say.

 

McDermott really comes across having this "I can do little wrong" ego that has always rubbed me the wrong way.  The guy preaches execution but his coaching on game day is always suspect. 

[Gunsgoodtime]

46 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

That’s like predicting the sun will come up at this point.  Love what he said.  There’s going to be a lot of crow eating on this board when we do win one with him.

A Crows lifespan is only 7-8 years, let's be thankful that they keep having babies because some of us have been waiting to eat that Crow well over 5 Crow generations.

[ddaryl]

eventually the Bills will win it all, the  question I'm asking is ... Will it be in my lifetime ?

[Shaw66]

6 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

That's fine if that's the mindset YOU want to have, but telling others OUR mindset (or mine specifically quoted) mindset is wrong because we see it differently than you is well, just wrong.  It's not just 1 or two of us.  I always thought you had a more level mindset, but its certainly now on the side of defending a coach that has proved nothing beyond the fact he can just make it to the playoffs before being trounced every single year and at the end of the day, underachieving with the best QB the team has ever had on the roster.  0 SB appearances, 1 AFCCG blowout.  Im not sure he could win it with Jesus himself out there at this point.  Just a reminder, Josh Allen is not Benjamin Button.

I don't tell people they're wrong because they don't believe in McDermott's mindset.   I tell them they're wrong because if you have a coach who's won as much as McDermott has won, he is more likely to win a Super Bowl than almost any available head coach.  It's very hard to win a lot of games in the NFL, and McDermott has made it look easy.  The other available coaches either are coordinators who have never been head coaches or are guys who have been head coaches and who haven't been able to win as much as McDermott has.  As some have put it, he's closer to winning it all than any other guy the Bills could hire.   He is like Shanahan.  I think the smart bet is to bet the guy who's already having a lot of success compared to everyone else trying to do the same thing. 

 

I get that people say the Bills need an offensive minded head coach.   I don't agree the focus needs to be on the offense, but I get that argument.  But even so, the guy has to be able to do the whole job, and there are very few coaches in the league who are doing the whole job better than McDermott.  

 

And I get that some people think he's the next Schottenheimer.   As I've said before, Reid was the next Schottenheimer before he became Reid.   Pete Carroll had failed twice as an NFL head coach before he was as old as McDermott is today.  People change, they grow, they develop, especially people who model their behavior based on a growth mindset.   I think McDermott has a much better chance of being the next Reid than the next Schottenheimer.   

[<bills4life>]

7 hours ago, Dr. K said:

You are psychic. 

 

Of course, two out of three threads on the board turn into McDermott bash threads. It could not possibly get more tiresome. 

Yes it could. Losing in the divisional year after year comes to mind.

[amprov56]

8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Allen has had weapons. Let’s not act like he hasn’t. The offense has been one of the best.

 

People act like they are one of the worst.

 

They have a hole at WR. They will fill it with a talented WR. 

Blah, blah, blah same old whine!

28 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I don't tell people they're wrong because they don't believe in McDermott's mindset.   I tell them they're wrong because if you have a coach who's won as much as McDermott has won, he is more likely to win a Super Bowl than almost any available head coach.  It's very hard to win a lot of games in the NFL, and McDermott has made it look easy.  The other available coaches either are coordinators who have never been head coaches or are guys who have been head coaches and who haven't been able to win as much as McDermott has.  As some have put it, he's closer to winning it all than any other guy the Bills could hire.   He is like Shanahan.  I think the smart bet is to bet the guy who's already having a lot of success compared to everyone else trying to do the same thing. 

 

I get that people say the Bills need an offensive minded head coach.   I don't agree the focus needs to be on the offense, but I get that argument.  But even so, the guy has to be able to do the whole job, and there are very few coaches in the league who are doing the whole job better than McDermott.  

 

And I get that some people think he's the next Schottenheimer.   As I've said before, Reid was the next Schottenheimer before he became Reid.   Pete Carroll had failed twice as an NFL head coach before he was as old as McDermott is today.  People change, they grow, they develop, especially people who model their behavior based on a growth mindset.   I think McDermott has a much better chance of being the next Reid than the next Schottenheimer.   

Another great post with wisdom!

[90sBills]

1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

I'm pretty sure that Josh in fact said post-game that he needs to be better at sliding in the pocket.  That is, if he'd perceived in real time what actually was happening, he would have moved to get himself to a better place to make the throw.   And in fact, that's how these guys think - is there anything I could do better, anything, and how do I learn it?   I thought it was great self-awareness.  And, in the process, he didn't throw his lineman to the wolves.  

The issue with criticisms is it’s never Allen. He’s self aware and knows he needs to be better. It’s the fans, and particularly fans on this board. They act like he IS above being criticized. 

[BananaB]

A matter of when he’s fired and the next guy comes in and takes them to the dance

[Shaw66]

35 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

The issue with criticisms is it’s never Allen. He’s self aware and knows he needs to be better. It’s the fans, and particularly fans on this board. They act like he IS above being criticized. 

Yeah, I know.  I've said a variety of things about Josh for the past couple of years, things I think he needs to be better at.  Those comments always draw immediate reactions, suggesting I'm some kind of traitor.   And it's kind of funny that my comments about McDermott being the best choice for head coach draw reactions suggesting I'm an idiot.  Just the nature of people discussing stuff.

[Dr. K]

1 hour ago, <bills4life> said:

Yes it could. Losing in the divisional year after year comes to mind.

The endless ranking on McDermott, in which the same people say the same things over and over again, and nobody raging that he should be fired has said anything new since the 13 seconds game--or at least in the last year--makes me never want to come back here again.

 

The few who want to talk about other things relevant to the Bills and not ride their hobby horses to death keep me coming back here to check in now and then.

 

And the repetitive anti-McDermott whining drives me away again. You can't begin reading any thread without eventually running into the necessary quota of bitter complaint that McDermott will never win a title/is a fool/is arrogant/is lazy/is too conservative/has lost the locker room/is surrounded by his yes-men, yada yada yada. 

 

Maybe he should be fired. I don't know. My instinct and life experience tell me that the world is not fair, that time and chance happen to us all, that the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry, that even brilliant people make mistakes, that leadership takes many forms, and that finding success is not as simple as these people insist. But apparently there are a lot of Bills fans who have never been wrong in their entire lives. 

Edited February 26 by Dr. K

[julian]

8 hours ago, blitzboy54 said:

 

Until I hear him say out loud "13 seconds was my fault, I got tight and made a mistake" I will never believe anything that comes out of his mouth. 

Yeah it bothers me that he avoided taking responsibility publicly for that collapse, while he watches Josh stand before the media each week taking responsibility for his poor play, often knowing it was teammates or coaching that were the real culprits.

[BillMafia716ix]

I love it. Thought this was Sean best coaching job considering where we were at 6-6 and with all the injuries. Bills make 2 or 3 more plays in the KC game they win that game. We are close!! We have to stay healthy!! Injuries have killed us the last two years. 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

I don't tell people they're wrong because they don't believe in McDermott's mindset.   I tell them they're wrong because if you have a coach who's won as much as McDermott has won, he is more likely to win a Super Bowl than almost any available head coach.  It's very hard to win a lot of games in the NFL, and McDermott has made it look easy.  The other available coaches either are coordinators who have never been head coaches or are guys who have been head coaches and who haven't been able to win as much as McDermott has.  As some have put it, he's closer to winning it all than any other guy the Bills could hire.   He is like Shanahan.  I think the smart bet is to bet the guy who's already having a lot of success compared to everyone else trying to do the same thing. 

 

I get that people say the Bills need an offensive minded head coach.   I don't agree the focus needs to be on the offense, but I get that argument.  But even so, the guy has to be able to do the whole job, and there are very few coaches in the league who are doing the whole job better than McDermott.  

 

And I get that some people think he's the next Schottenheimer.   As I've said before, Reid was the next Schottenheimer before he became Reid.   Pete Carroll had failed twice as an NFL head coach before he was as old as McDermott is today.  People change, they grow, they develop, especially people who model their behavior based on a growth mindset.   I think McDermott has a much better chance of being the next Reid than the next Schottenheimer.   

Shaw....how many of these wins are attributed to Josh or Sean?  We win because we have the best qb in Bills history.  Not because we have an elite HC. 

[Dr. K]

4 hours ago, eball said:

 

 

First of all, you're nuts to believe anything coming out of Li'l Dirty's mouth.

 

Second, what if it wasn't McD's play calls and the players simply didn't execute?  Would we "have so much respect for him" if he blamed Levi Wallace for blowing the coverage or blamed the ST coach for not communicating the call correctly on the kickoff?

 

He has taken as much accountability for that game as anyone ever should.  People still act as though it was a miracle even though we've seen teams get into position to kick a long FG like that before and since.

 

Leslie Frazier's defense folded like a lawn chair in crunch time.

 

McD is rightfully proud of what they've accomplished over seven years, but is obviously not satisfied.  I really don't know what the hell anyone wants him to say.

 

It's very clear that they want him to say, "I'm a terrible head coach and I'm resigning." 

 

If he said, "I take total responsibility for the 13 seconds loss," they would not be satisfied, of course, unless the next sentence is "I'm a terrible head coach and I'm resigning." 

 

That's the only thing he could say that would satisfy them. And they'd still be cursing him as he walked out the door. 

Edited February 26 by Dr. K

[BBFL]

Should have at least 1 by now… Shame. 

[Shaw66]

27 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Shaw....how many of these wins are attributed to Josh or Sean?  We win because we have the best qb in Bills history.  Not because we have an elite HC. 

And Tyrod Taylor is elite, too?  

 

When did Josh start coaching that top-10 defense?

[BillsFanForever19]

Yeah, I knew when this got posted it would just be a bunch of snarky McDermott posts.

 

Personally, I like it.

 

He's always so close to the vest and careful. "One step at a time, one game at a time". "Playoff Caliber" during the season and "Championship Caliber" only after we make the postseason.

 

To hear him say something like "it's not a matter of if we win the Super Bowl, but WHEN" - that's an uncharacteristic, galvanizing statement to make to the team.

Edited February 27 by BillsFanForever19

[Turk71]

7 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

   McDermott owns the past lives with it, and works to get better.  

McD doesn't 'own' the past and that's the problem. He doesn't own up to anything....ever

He makes mistakes that he never 'owns'....in fact he makes sure to deflect blame onto someone else.

That's a terrible trait for a leader 

[Augie]

15 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Should have at least 1 by now… Shame. 

 

I think they may all want to be beloved like Scott Norwood. We need that sports psychologist from Ted Lasso to fix this. You know, the sneaky ninja shrink who changes seats without ever moving. That is the kind of Mojo this team needs! 

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Turk71 said:

McD doesn't 'own' the past and that's the problem. He doesn't own up to anything....ever

He makes mistakes that he never 'owns'....in fact he makes sure to deflect blame onto someone else.

That's a terrible trait for a leader 

I have not been an uncritical supporter of McDermott, but I don't see him as a hypocrite who never takes responsibility. If that were true, he would not command the evident respect that he does among the players. When that fella with an axe to grind (Dunne) posted his poison pen article, the team rallied around him. That should tell you something -- though obviously, many have already concluded otherwise. To each his own. I disagree with your judgment.

[Einstein]

23 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

If he said, "I take total responsibility for the 13 seconds loss," they would not be satisfied

 

I can’t speak for others, but him saying that would give me an entirely new level of respect for him.

 

But not just a generic coach-speak version where the guy says “it all falls on me” … “i take the blame” … yada yada.

 

But a genuine “I made some serious mistakes tonight. They shouldn’t have happened and they can’t happen ever again. I know that a couple different coaching decisions and we would be hosting the AFC Championship game next week. Part of this off-season will be spent making sure these mistakes never reoccur”. If he said that after 13 Seconds, my respond for him would have skyrocketed. It would have made a world of difference in my eyes and I think many others as well.

 

Instead we got coach speak and some of the same mistakes happening again.

[78thealltimegreat]

3 hours ago, DrBob806 said:

Josh should not be immune to criticism. Watch the replay.

I did Dawkins needed to hold his block a second longer he didn’t 

26 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

And Tyrod Taylor is elite, too?  

 

When did Josh start coaching that top-10 defense?

You spend the second most money in football and the most  in the league on the secondary they better be elite 

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I did Dawkins needed to hold his block a second longer he didn’t 

 

We are seconds and/or inches away. No game, or even play, is on one guy. 

 

It will be our turn. 

[FireChans]

Tyler Dunne - “Sean McDermott cluelessly guarantees Super Bowl championship with Buffalo Bills: 5 reasons why Doug Whaley, Jim Monos and Isaiah McKenzie disagree”

[Shaw66]

16 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

McD doesn't 'own' the past and that's the problem. He doesn't own up to anything....ever

He makes mistakes that he never 'owns'....in fact he makes sure to deflect blame onto someone else.

That's a terrible trait for a leader 

He owns the history to the only audience that matters - his team.   His players are completely behind him - we heard it repeatedly after Hamlin's problem.  

 

He doesn't have to own to the fans.   He has no obligation to say anything to the fans.  

[BBFL]

23 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I think they may all want to be beloved like Scott Norwood. We need that sports psychologist from Ted Lasso to fix this. You know, the sneaky ninja shrink who changes seats without ever moving. That is the kind of Mojo this team needs! 

A Sharon would be great, unless she ups and leaves without letting anyone know prior… Guess the letter would be a consolation 😂

[ToGoGo]

2 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I don't tell people they're wrong because they don't believe in McDermott's mindset.   I tell them they're wrong because if you have a coach who's won as much as McDermott has won, he is more likely to win a Super Bowl than almost any available head coach.  It's very hard to win a lot of games in the NFL, and McDermott has made it look easy.  The other available coaches either are coordinators who have never been head coaches or are guys who have been head coaches and who haven't been able to win as much as McDermott has.  As some have put it, he's closer to winning it all than any other guy the Bills could hire.   He is like Shanahan.  I think the smart bet is to bet the guy who's already having a lot of success compared to everyone else trying to do the same thing. 

 

I get that people say the Bills need an offensive minded head coach.   I don't agree the focus needs to be on the offense, but I get that argument.  But even so, the guy has to be able to do the whole job, and there are very few coaches in the league who are doing the whole job better than McDermott.  

 

And I get that some people think he's the next Schottenheimer.   As I've said before, Reid was the next Schottenheimer before he became Reid.   Pete Carroll had failed twice as an NFL head coach before he was as old as McDermott is today.  People change, they grow, they develop, especially people who model their behavior based on a growth mindset.   I think McDermott has a much better chance of being the next Reid than the next Schottenheimer.   

You’re talking to people who don’t know what a growth mindset is. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

I don't see why we keep talking about this.  Terry isn't making a change, so he is here no matter what is said or thought by fans.

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

McD like all employees has one goal…staying employed. The status of his position is up to Pegula. And from what I’ve seen between the Bills and Sabres I’m guessing Terry doesn’t want to rock the Bills boat right now. 

[Turk71]

44 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

 

If he said, "I take total responsibility for the 13  seconds loss," they would not be satisfied, of course, unless the next sentence is "I'm a terrible head coach and I'm resigning." 

McD taking responsibility for anything ......  ever, would be a start. Until he does that, we'll never know what 'they' would say if he did. 

You would rather have a coach that accepts no responsibility and blames others, while you project what 'they' would say if he ever did accept any blame?

  I don't think expecting an explanation after one of the worst collapses in NFL history is unreasonable. I do think that McDs pattern of avoiding it while blaming others is a terrible quality for a head coach.

16 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

He owns the history to the only audience that matters - his team.   His players are completely behind him - we heard it repeatedly after Hamlin's problem.  

 

He doesn't have to own to the fans.   He has no obligation to say anything to the fans.  

Then why doesn't he just have 'no comment' and keep his mouth shut instead of deflecting blame onto others?

[Jammer8732]

Some seem to forget the 19 year playoff drought before McDermott became the HC…

[stuvian]

we have a better chance with him than without him

[ToGoGo]

McDermott will be a champion before he leaves Buffalo. A LOT of people will be eating their words over the years. It’s going to be really hard to watch.