eball Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 ...as evidenced by Brady and Babich sticking around and accepting promotions to OC and DC despite significant interest around the league. /sarcasm off 8 1 3 1 25 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rico Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Separated at birth: 1 1 14 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Or, particularly in the case of Brady, he realized a year with Josh Allen ends in a head coaching job in a year if successful… while Atlanta maybe not so much 4 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Or, particularly in the case of Brady, he realized a year with Josh Allen ends in a head coaching job in a year if successful… while Atlanta maybe not so much Shoot, he won’t even have to last a full year to pick up his next gig across the Lake! 🤔 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Or, particularly in the case of Brady, he realized a year with Josh Allen ends in a head coaching job in a year if successful… while Atlanta maybe not so much Unfortunately I think the standards with the owner and half the fanbase are so low, that I’m not even sure another massive postseason disappointment gets McD Cannes. Terry and a lot of fans feel that simply a Divisional Round exit with an elite QB is a huge accomplishment. It’s happened 3 years in a row and they want more of it. I think if it was somewhere else, this could be a good analysis of the situation by Brady. Here, I’m not so sure. I guess if the offense is solid he probably feels he could still get hired away. 2 1 10 2 11 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 38 minutes ago, eball said: ...as evidenced by Brady and Babich sticking around and accepting promotions to OC and DC despite significant interest around the league. /sarcasm off How generous and selfless of them to accept promotions on a team with championship caliber talent. We are all indebted to them for their painstaking sacrifice and commitment to the Bills. Let us collectively start a go fund me for both of them to exhibit our gratitude! 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Is sarcasm the same as being facetious? Also, how dare you? That is the antithesis of what you said, those two sticking around obviously means McDermott is a fun party man who pushes the limit right to the edge! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Tyler Done That was some stunt, not the context but the time he dropped it really made me lose respect for him. I'm sure there was some truths in there, it's just the fact he claims to be a Bills fan and drops a hit piece at their lowest point in 2.5 years was scumbag **** imo Then again, it was a blessing in disguise as the team only got tighter and stood by McD, ripping off W after W. But he wanted it to sink the ship and I'll never respect that man again in my life 6 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Tyler Done That was some stunt, not the context but the time he dropped it really made me lose respect for him. I'm sure there was some truths in there, it's just the fact he claims to be a Bills fan and drops a hit piece at their lowest point in 2.5 years was scumbag **** imo Then again, it was a blessing in disguise as the team only got tighter and stood by McD, ripping off W after W. But he wanted it to sink the ship and I'll never respect that man again in my life With amazing sources like 'Lil Dirty, Doug Whaley and Quinton Spain, how could he have gone wrong? I mean its not like they were all butt hurt or anything, right? 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) As someone who found a lot of what was in the Dunne piece to be illuminating and probably truthful... Two things that have happened since have been kind of damning to that report: The first was the Wink Martindale/Brian Daboll fallout. Whereas it looked like the rather public breakup of McDermott and Daboll was more on McDermott, seeing Daboll be unable to make it work with a second consecutive defensive mind makes one wonder. The second was the fact that, as the OP mentioned, two coveted young coordinators chose to stick around in Buffalo rather than go elsewhere, even though both garnered significant interest. Babich, in particular, was surprising, choosing to stick around under a defensive-minded head coach who may still continue to call plays rather than potentially spread his wings under an offensive minded guy. Lastly, the way the team rallied around McDermott after the piece came out also sort of poked a bit of a hole in the "no one likes playing for this control freak" narrative. The more that time has gone on and the more that's happened, the less accurate Dunne's piece has looked. With all of that said, the Bills still lost in heartbreaking fashion in the Divisional round to the Kansas City Chiefs, and the major thesis of Dunne's piece was that McDermott tenses up in big moments and that the Bills need to move on from him to ever reach the Super Bowl, so.....he hasn't entirely been proven wrong thus far. Edited January 30 by Logic 5 12 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: How generous and selfless of them to accept promotions on a team with championship caliber talent. We are all indebted to them for their painstaking sacrifice and commitment to the Bills. Let us collectively start a go fund me for both of them to exhibit our gratitude! Like any weatherman, your posts here exhibit why you are wrong the majority of the time… 1 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 17 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Unfortunately I think the standards with the owner and half the fanbase are so low, that I’m not even sure another massive postseason disappointment gets McD Cannes. Terry and a lot of fans feel that simply a Divisional Round exit with an elite QB is a huge accomplishment. It’s happened 3 years in a row and they want more of it. I think if it was somewhere else, this could be a good analysis of the situation by Brady. Here, I’m not so sure. I guess if the offense is solid he probably feels he could still get hired away. I hope Sean enjoys France. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 19 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Terry and a lot of fans feel that simply a Divisional Round exit with an elite QB is a huge accomplishment. It’s happened 3 years in a row and they want more of it. bull#### 4 1 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, Simon said: bull#### Which part? I'm happy to discuss it. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I’m just so happy we can look forward to Sean on the sidelines clapping next year to just get bounced in round 1 or 2. That’s if we even make it. Now we have big game Burrow coming back along with Harbaugh and Rodgers. so COOL! 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, Logic said: As someone who found a lot of what was in the Dunne piece to be illuminating and probably truthful... Two things that have happened since have been kind of damning to that report: The first was the Wink Martindale/Brian Daboll fallout. Whereas it looked like the rather public breakup of McDermott and Daboll was more on McDermott, seeing Daboll be unable to make it work with a second consecutive defensive mind makes one wonder. The second was the fact that, as the OP mentioned, two coveted young coordinators chose to stick around in Buffalo rather than go elsewhere, even though both garnered significant interest. Babich, in particular, was surprising, choosing to stick around under a defensive-minded head coach who may still continue to call plays rather than potentially spread his wings under an offensive minded guy. Lastly, the way the team rallied around McDermott after the piece came out also sort of poked a bit of a hole in the "no one likes playing for this control freak" narrative. The more that time has gone on and the more that's happened, the less accurate Dunne's piece has looked. With all of that said, the Bills still lost in heartbreaking fashion in the Divisional round to the Kansas City Chiefs, and the major thesis of Dunne's piece was that McDermott tenses up in big moments and that the Bills need to move on from him to ever reach the Super Bowl, so.....he hasn't entirely been proven wrong thus far. Right. I believe two things can be true at the same time, and I don't know how anyone could say McD doesn't tense up in big moments. He's had a cavalcade of postseason and big game blunders here. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 28 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Unfortunately I think the standards with the owner and half the fanbase are so low, that I’m not even sure another massive postseason disappointment gets McD Cannes. Terry and a lot of fans feel that simply a Divisional Round exit with an elite QB is a huge accomplishment. It’s happened 3 years in a row and they want more of it. I think if it was somewhere else, this could be a good analysis of the situation by Brady. Here, I’m not so sure. I guess if the offense is solid he probably feels he could still get hired away. my point was he gets hired elsewhere in 12 months as a HC if he doesn’t pull a Dorsey and mess up an easy opportunity here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Rico said: Separated at birth: Tyler Dunne is a really odd guy. Watch a few interviews of him after this idiotic article came out and he Comes off as an angry arrogant fool. Another media hack who knows nothing about football just gossip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: my point was he gets hired elsewhere in 12 months as a HC if he doesn’t pull a Dorsey and mess up an easy opportunity here That's a fair point. I think that could happen with the demand of young OC's with playcalling experience even if we don't win big here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: my point was he gets hired elsewhere in 12 months as a HC if he doesn’t pull a Dorsey and mess up an easy opportunity here Esp with a Superbowl win on his resume .... 😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, eball said: ...as evidenced by Brady and Babich sticking around and accepting promotions to OC and DC despite significant interest around the league. /sarcasm off Nice to see that Tyler Dunne is living rent free in a lot of Bills fans heads. At the end of the day though his pieces were superb journalism for anyone that actually took the time to read them instead of pointing fingers and calling him a bills hater or another hack with an axe to grind. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 17 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Which part? I'm happy to discuss it. They won't want to discuss any of it, because what you said is 100% true. At least half of Bills fans were so traumatized by the playoff drought that they're perfectly happy to win the division and maybe a playoff game because shooting for anything more involves the risk that mediocrity might rear it's ugly head again. That should not be a legitimate worry when you have Allen in his prime. 1 2 5 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHewIt Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 24 minutes ago, Logic said: As someone who found a lot of what was in the Dunne piece to be illuminating and probably truthful... Two things that have happened since have been kind of damning to that report: The first was the Wink Martindale/Brian Daboll fallout. Whereas it looked like the rather public breakup of McDermott and Daboll was more on McDermott, seeing Daboll be unable to make it work with a second consecutive defensive mind makes one wonder. The second was the fact that, as the OP mentioned, two coveted young coordinators chose to stick around in Buffalo rather than go elsewhere, even though both garnered significant interest. Babich, in particular, was surprising, choosing to stick around under a defensive-minded head coach who may still continue to call plays rather than potentially spread his wings under an offensive minded guy. Lastly, the way the team rallied around McDermott after the piece came out also sort of poked a bit of a hole in the "no one likes playing for this control freak" narrative. The more that time has gone on and the more that's happened, the less accurate Dunne's piece has looked. With all of that said, the Bills still lost in heartbreaking fashion in the Divisional round to the Kansas City Chiefs, and the major thesis of Dunne's piece was that McDermott tenses up in big moments and that the Bills need to move on from him to ever reach the Super Bowl, so.....he hasn't entirely been proven wrong thus far. It's almost as if a bunch of fans were judging and thinking they could read a person off a bunch of intentionally bland press conferences, rather than his body of work, which is more successful than 98 percent of the coaches in the past seven years with a locker room that constantly raves about how together they are year in and year out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 41 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Unfortunately I think the standards with the owner and half the fanbase are so low, that I’m not even sure another massive postseason disappointment gets McD Cannes. Terry and a lot of fans feel that simply a Divisional Round exit with an elite QB is a huge accomplishment. It’s happened 3 years in a row and they want more of it. I think if it was somewhere else, this could be a good analysis of the situation by Brady. Here, I’m not so sure. I guess if the offense is solid he probably feels he could still get hired away. One of the most ridiculous, nonsensical posts I’ve ever read in here. Good job, you! 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 🎵I'm not Daboll🎶 🎶My name is Brady🎵 🎵Daboll left you🎶 🎶Coupla years ago🎵 * Wasn't worth starting a new thread. 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, JustHewIt said: It's almost as if a bunch of fans were judging and thinking they could read a person off a bunch of intentionally bland press conferences, rather than his body of work, which is more successful than 98 percent of the coaches in the past seven years with a locker room that constantly raves about how together they are year in and year out. These guys are together. I also think they would struggle in the divisional round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Nice to see that Tyler Dunne is living rent free in a lot of Bills fans heads. At the end of the day though his pieces were superb journalism for anyone that actually took the time to read them instead of pointing fingers and calling him a bills hater or another hack with an axe to grind. I still have no idea why you are here. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, eball said: One of the most ridiculous, nonsensical posts I’ve ever read in here. Good job, you! In what way? I'm open to hearing how what any of what I said is wrong or untrue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 14 minutes ago, wppete said: Tyler Dunne is a really odd guy. Watch a few interviews of him after this idiotic article came out and he Comes off as an angry arrogant fool. Another media hack who knows nothing about football just gossip. He was actually on Pat Moran's talking buffalo podcast earlier and if you watched or listened he gave a lot of good insight, especially in regards to stuff like this in terms of people thinking he's just another random blogger. And to be honest Dunne's resume and credential are pretty impressive and I'd venture to guess he could probably be working for any major national or local NFL media outlet of his choice instead of doing his own thing with go long if he wanted to. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Apparently, Daboll is the one with a long history of being a difficult person to coach with. https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/27/volatility-issues-cost-brian-daboll-coaching-jobs-prior-new-york-giants-hire/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Nice to see that Tyler Dunne is living rent free in a lot of Bills fans heads. At the end of the day though his pieces were superb journalism for anyone that actually took the time to read them instead of pointing fingers and calling him a bills hater or another hack with an axe to grind. Bless your little heart. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: In what way? I'm open to hearing how what any of what I said is wrong or untrue. You’re entitled to your opinion, and I’m entitled to call your opinion moronic. Go Bills! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 1 minute ago, eball said: You’re entitled to your opinion, and I’m entitled to call your opinion moronic. Go Bills! You absolutely are entitled, no argument there Edited January 30 by HomeskillitMoorman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JustHewIt said: It's almost as if a bunch of fans were judging and thinking they could read a person off a bunch of intentionally bland press conferences, rather than his body of work, which is more successful than 98 percent of the coaches in the past seven years with a locker room that constantly raves about how together they are year in and year out. Since McDermott arrived, 10 different coaches has made the SB, some multiple times, how is he more successful than 98% of coaches in the NFL, much less sports? To this point, with Josh Allen as QB he has underachieved, only making the AFCCG once, resulting in a blowout. Edited January 30 by Gunsgoodtime 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: These guys are together. I also think they would struggle in the divisional round. Haha, this pretty much ended the thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 As soon as Go Long Dunne gets his Bills insights from someone other than Doug Whaley or Jon Feliciano he’ll gain some credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, somnus00 said: Apparently, Daboll is the one with a long history of being a difficult person to coach with. https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/27/volatility-issues-cost-brian-daboll-coaching-jobs-prior-new-york-giants-hire/ I'll believe it when I see 20+ sources go on record like they did with Dunne for his McDivisional pieces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) Winning in the NFL - assuming the leaders even know what they are doing - is a game of inches on and off the field. Terry Pegula pointing to Mahomes but not insisting on the pick… Playing soft D and making 13 seconds enough… A failed fake punt, a dropped pass, a missed kick… Right now Reid and Spagnola do everything in the center right AND win on the margins. It’s like playing my wife in cards: I always play her close, but somehow she plays her hands better when it counts and comes out on top. Beane and McDermott are damn good, just not the best. And unfortunately we are seeing a Brady/Belichick level duo each year in the playoffs. I’m grateful for the run we are on, but they have better juice. Against Reid/Mahomes - in the context of going against the greats - McDermott is lacking and that’s a problem. But realistically, what are we to do? I’m tempted to give Belichick a go, but that could be a disaster as well… Its hard to have faith in a loving God if you’re a Bills fan! 😂 Edited January 30 by NORWOODS FOOT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, eball said: As soon as Go Long Dunne gets his Bills insights from someone other than Doug Whaley or Jon Feliciano he’ll gain some credibility. If you actually read his articles you'd know he had way more sources that. At least 20-25 including current Bills players on the roster. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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