Bill51390 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Thoughts and opinions? It may be time to start looking elsewhere. He has definitely underperformed and hasn’t played to the level we expected. 3 4 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) Disagree. He may not have lived up to YOUR expectations but he is a strength, not a weakness. He is only 23 and with our DL rotation, he is not likely to build up massive stats. Edited January 22 by RoyBatty is alive 5 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Higgins hair Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Thoughts? No. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 He's a Mid. Just like most of the guys on our D-line are. All those resources poured in for nothing when it matters. 3 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Good against the run but not a consistent pass rusher. Said it all along that he’s not a guy that’s going to win off the edge and get to the QB with any kind of regularity. He’s a good player for what he is though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 the DL did ok. the linebackers not much. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 He’s good. Hasn’t taken that next step yet. Very good all around player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 He’s an average DE in the league. Lots of players like him. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I’d pick up the 5th year option on the guy. He’s flashed at moments, feel like he might end up like Oliver and have a real breakout in a year or two. We need some edge rushers in their prime versus just starting over in the draft only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Picking him and Boogie Basham 1 and 2 that year was why we got to watch Trent Sherfield play meaningful minutes while dropping multiple bombs last night. Criminal how little they've built around Allen. 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said: He's a Mid. Just like most of the guys on our D-line are. All those resources poured in for nothing when it matters. This is it 100% and we have seen it for years now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, CaptnCoke11 said: He’s an average DE in the league. Lots of players like him. Not really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Gregory “No Show” Rousseau 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Not really. Absolutely is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Bill51390 said: Thoughts and opinions? It may be time to start looking elsewhere. He has definitely underperformed and hasn’t played to the level we expected. He has regressed in the pass rush department. They need a big offseason improvement from him because they aren't likely to field the kind of depth he is used to having behind him in reserve. Need an Ed Oliver type elevation of performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, CaptnCoke11 said: Absolutely is Not many are as well rounded as Rousseau. He’s a very good player. Needs to take another step as a pass rusher. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Patrick Fitzryan said: Picking him and Boogie Basham 1 and 2 that year was why we got to watch Trent Sherfield play meaningful minutes while dropping multiple bombs last night. Criminal how little they've built around Allen. I'm not sure how this ties to our WR situation as there werent any WRs we passed on with those picks. The missed pick was Basham over Creed Humphrey. Unless you are saying we could have already moved on from Morse and used that money to sign better WRs. But we didnt have any problem throwing money at WR this year with the Harty and Sherfield signings. So I'm confused on the details here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Above average run defender, mediocre sack output. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: He has regressed in the pass rush department. They need a big offseason improvement from him because they aren't likely to field the kind of depth he is used to having behind him in reserve. Need an Ed Oliver type elevation of performance. I believe Rousseau is capable of that. We'll see if it pans out. Folks also have to remember, this is the talent we get picking so late in the 1st. We have to be lucky to strike gold, otherwise the player would already have been picked in the top 10. Rousseau is a good all-around player drafted 30th overall. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I’d pick up the 5th year option on the guy. He’s flashed at moments, feel like he might end up like Oliver and have a real breakout in a year or two. We need some edge rushers in their prime versus just starting over in the draft only. I think we will get a better idea of his value next year. Floyd had a great year opposite him. He will likely have a lesser partner next year and will have to take a big step. If he makes that step you pay him. If he is still just a guy, then you have a tougher call on his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: I believe Rousseau is capable of that. We'll see if it pans out. Folks also have to remember, this is the talent we get picking so late in the 1st. We have to be lucky to strike gold, otherwise the player would already have been picked in the top 10. Rousseau is a good all-around player drafted 30th overall. That was a weird draft due to covid. He sat out. Rousseau IMO is an elite talent. I expect a lot from him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill51390 Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Mango said: I think we will get a better idea of his value next year. Floyd had a great year opposite him. He will likely have a lesser partner next year and will have to take a big step. If he makes that step you pay him. If he is still just a guy, then you have a tougher call on his value. Floyd started the season great, but only had 1 sack in the final 8 games, not good. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Had higher expectations this season … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I'd say he gives you exactly what you can expect out of an edge rusher drafted at the end of Round 1. The Bills need to be a lot worse to have a shot at drafting an actual game-wrecker on the edge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I thought he was going to develop into something special but it hasn't happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, boyst said: the DL did ok. the linebackers not much. OK??? The get all the heat from defensive failings last night man. With Bernard out the options behind them were Klein and Dodson. Both absolutely limited guys in coverage. They needed to be great. They weren’t. They were exactly like you said, OK. Absolutely criminal none of those guys (Floyd, Oliver, Groot, AJE, Von, Lawson, Jones, Settle, Linval) they choose to use in a rotation to keep fresh made a play. 9 of them did “ok”. That’s a problem for that much investment. Secondary didn’t play bad and neither did Dodson or Klein individually. The problem is that is not a pairing you can ask to defend a motion and level type offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Wasn't he the one guy who had a shot at a sack, and of course didn't bring Mahomes down. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Bill51390 said: Floyd started the season great, but only had 1 sack in the final 8 games, not good. Floyd has a bad shoulder and has been ineffective for weeks. Rousseau started the season great I thought and then injured his foot. He got better later in the year but wasn't noticeable when we needed him. Once again our pass rush was a no show against KC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Average pass rusher and great run defender. He actually had a career high in pressures and QB hits this year (per PFR) but struggled to finish. I think having Von playing at really high level benefitted him a lot last year (2022). I still want to see him get more opportunities to rush from inside on obvious passing downs. Got a ton of sacks doing that at Miami. Overall I’d say he’s nothing special but he’s a starting caliber DE for sure and far from being someone that holds this team back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Greg Rousseau has only been playing DE for 5 years. He was a safety/LB/WR in highschool. At Miami he moved to DE as a freshman. He's played exceptionally well for a guy who's talented yet extremely raw. He's not going to be a 10-15 sack guy ever, he's your edge setting DE who plays the run better than the pass. His sack numbers at Miami were inflated due to the DC moving him inside on passing downs where he used his length to beat guards. He's a low end Cam Jordan, known as a better run stuffer than a pure pass rusher. He's one you keep because his measurables are something you can't find. He can disrupt pass lanes and knock down lots of balls as we've seen him do here. If you have a legit pass rush option opposite of him he will look much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 He does seem to start a season strong and fade down the stretch but for a guy taken at pick 30 we could have done a lot worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 24 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'm not sure how this ties to our WR situation as there werent any WRs we passed on with those picks. The missed pick was Basham over Creed Humphrey. Unless you are saying we could have already moved on from Morse and used that money to sign better WRs. But we didnt have any problem throwing money at WR this year with the Harty and Sherfield signings. So I'm confused on the details here. Nico Collins was picked shortly after. He'd be nice right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I think he’s fine, and not really a problem with our defense. Considering where he was drafted and his cost, he’s performed adequately. I kind of hope he doesn’t have a monster contract year, so we can retain him affordably and have stability at that spot. In fact, I would extend him this off-season to an affordable deal if I were Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 18 minutes ago, MPL said: I'd say he gives you exactly what you can expect out of an edge rusher drafted at the end of Round 1. The Bills need to be a lot worse to have a shot at drafting an actual game-wrecker on the edge. TJ Watt: Round 1 Pick 30 Maxx Crosby: Round 4 Pick 106 Trey Hendrickson: Round 3 Pick 103 Danielle Hunter: Round 3 Pick 88 Edited January 22 by Bangarang 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 14 minutes ago, BBFL said: OK??? The get all the heat from defensive failings last night man. With Bernard out the options behind them were Klein and Dodson. Both absolutely limited guys in coverage. They needed to be great. They weren’t. They were exactly like you said, OK. Absolutely criminal none of those guys (Floyd, Oliver, Groot, AJE, Von, Lawson, Jones, Settle, Linval) they choose to use in a rotation to keep fresh made a play. 9 of them did “ok”. That’s a problem for that much investment. Secondary didn’t play bad and neither did Dodson or Klein individually. The problem is that is not a pairing you can ask to defend a motion and level type offense. the DL did as good as any other unit. the passes were quick. they didn't have time to get to mahomes. targets open downfield. poor tackling by the team. a lot of issues. the dl wasn't the worst unit yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 17 minutes ago, MPL said: I'd say he gives you exactly what you can expect out of an edge rusher drafted at the end of Round 1. The Bills need to be a lot worse to have a shot at drafting an actual game-wrecker on the edge. Or at any position really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 31 minutes ago, boyst said: the DL did ok. the linebackers not much. Tyrel Dodson gets abused by the Chiefs EVERYTIME we play them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: TJ Watt: Round 1 Pick 30 Tom Brady: Round 6 Pick 199 Cmon. We can find ONE guy at almost any draft spot over the history of the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, boyst said: the DL did as good as any other unit. the passes were quick. they didn't have time to get to mahomes. targets open downfield. poor tackling by the team. a lot of issues. the dl wasn't the worst unit yesterday. Yeah but the point is they needed to be great. There’s excuses for the CBs and LBs. they have been in and out of the lineup due to necessity. Not rotation. You’re down to some absolute scraps in a monumental game everywhere on the defense except the line… They should have stepped up. They’ve made plays all year but disappear in back to back games. Secondary and LBs stepped up against Pitt… they could have returned the favor and done more than, like you said, ok… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I've seen other teams do this, they draft an Edge in the late 20's or early 30's. Then they turn out to be a JAG. Thats all Rousseau is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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