Matt_In_NH Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 #phinsdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Remember that game when they ran up the score on a hapless Broncos team? What an epic season that their fans will remember for decades to come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: I'll talk smack all day. Regardless of SB, we still have one of the best teams in the league. I did that last night. After talking Miami trash all year for the SB, he went back to "I told you all the chiefs would turn it on in the playoffs" and more Bills suck trash and will get owned if they even make it past Pittsburg. What as tool…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I don’t know any Dolphins fans or check out Fins Haven. So really the Dolphins aren’t some arch rival for me. I was alive for Kelly and Marino, but I don’t have the 1970’s like older fans do. But to partake some, it is nice that Lebatard and Stugotz can sit front row and watch their team fall apart after the countless potshots they’ve taken at the Bills and Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 8 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I don’t know any Dolphins fans or check out Fins Haven. So really the Dolphins aren’t some arch rival for me. I was alive for Kelly and Marino, but I don’t have the 1970’s like older fans do. But to partake some, it is nice that Lebatard and Stugotz can sit front row and watch their team fall apart after the countless potshots they’ve taken at the Bills and Allen. Until Miami can actually come up with an answer for Josh Allen, this is no rivalry, until they can win meaningful games in December and January, this is no rivalry. Until the Dolphins can take the division from Buffalo it’s just a one sided affair, maybe the Dolphins get a split every 3rd or 4th season and maybe they play the Bills in a close game here or there, but this division is firmly in the clutches of Josh Allen until something drastic changes for Dolphins, Jets or Pats. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 22 minutes ago, julian said: Until Miami can actually come up with an answer for Josh Allen, this is no rivalry, until they can win meaningful games in December and January, this is no rivalry. Until the Dolphins can take the division from Buffalo it’s just a one sided affair, maybe the Dolphins get a split every 3rd or 4th season and maybe they play the Bills in a close game here or there, but this division is firmly in the clutches of Josh Allen until something drastic changes for Dolphins, Jets or Pats. And I just remind people who point out the Bills losses to "inferior" Jets and Patriots teams that in all the years of Brady and Belichick dominance the Pats went 6-0 in the AFC East (which for the most part was a weaker division then) just twice. But it was still "their" division. The way the odd divisional loss doesn't stop it being the Bills' division. Oh and we are already went 6-0 once in our 4 years of division wins back in 2020. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: And I just remind people who point out the Bills losses to "inferior" Jets and Patriots teams that in all the years of Brady and Belichick dominance the Pats went 6-0 in the AFC East (which for the most part was a weaker division then) just twice. But it was still "their" division. The way the odd divisional loss doesn't stop it being the Bills' division. Oh and we are already went 6-0 once in our 4 years of division wins back in 2020. Yeah the Miami miracle was hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 hours ago, Scott7975 said: This... It's not even the team or coaches that I can't stand. It's their nasty fans. Yes we are. You probably don't see the trash they talked on twitter all season long. I dont even follow any of them and they completely filled my feed with nasty trash garbage True I don't look at Twitter so you may be right. Fans in general can be pretty bad at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 17 hours ago, NeverOutNick said: I did chuckle a little, but honestly until we beat the Chiefs in the playoffs and make it to a Super Bowl ourselves with this coaching regime, I’m not talking any smack. Yea, the gap in records for the teams from thanksgiving to wildcard weekend the last few years is monumental. But unfortunately the end result isn’t much different. 57 minutes ago, julian said: Until Miami can actually come up with an answer for Josh Allen, this is no rivalry, until they can win meaningful games in December and January, this is no rivalry. Until the Dolphins can take the division from Buffalo it’s just a one sided affair, maybe the Dolphins get a split every 3rd or 4th season and maybe they play the Bills in a close game here or there, but this division is firmly in the clutches of Josh Allen until something drastic changes for Dolphins, Jets or Pats. hopefully we can focus on owning the conference instead, soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Yeah, how 'bout we hold off on the crowing and bashing until we actually win a playoff game this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, Bad Things said: Yeah, how 'bout we hold off on the crowing and bashing until we actually win a playoff game this year? The holding pattern is agonizing, a #2 seed should not be the last AFC team to play on Wildcard weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: Miami is going to continue being a challenge to Buffalo for the AFC East crown. They struggled down the stretch, but McDaniel and their GM know that and will be looking for ways to enable the Dolphins to finish out the season. Buffalo had issues of their own this season. They finished strong, record wise, but the offense for the most part hadn't really been clicking through about the last half to two thirds of the season. Beane and McDermott understand that and, like Miami will be looking for ways to address the problems they had. Whichever team is more successful is the one that will win more AFC East crowns in the future, unless, of course the Jets figure out how to right their completely swamped ship of New England can quickly rebuild their franchise. Maybe. The Phins are going to face a some serious cap problems next season which is going to limit just how much they can actually improve the team. There is also the very real prospect that the Jests will be much more competitive next seasons with a functional offense under Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Congrats Dolphins, you were able to fool the football viewers into believing that your team was legitimate.It took until week 17 starting in Baltimore to begin process that ended with the embarrassment against Buffalo and KC, to show us what a delicate, sensitive team you are. Perhaps conditions were to difficult for thoroughbreds that thrive in perfect warm, fast tracks like your home stadium. Could it be that your Hawaiian born QB , who is winless when playing in temps under 40, is not cut out for winter in the northern states. Is it possible that Coach McDaniel, who favors yoga pants on the sidelines, doesn’t lubricate his skin enough to feel comfortable enough to call positive plays in cold weather. Maybe it’s those loyal fans , who will sell their tickets for the most important game of the season to serve up any home field advantage to your biggest rival, not being with the team on the road. Oh well, at least you guys were on that in season HBO show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 The 2020 NFL Draft. The first FIVE QBs taken: Joe Burrow Tua Tagovailoa Justin Herbert Jordan Love Jalen Hurts Looks very much like 4 studs and 1 game manager. Well done in drafting the game manager Miami. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The 2020 NFL Draft. The first FIVE QBs taken: Joe Burrow Tua Tagovailoa Justin Herbert Jordan Love Jalen Hurts Looks very much like 4 studs and 1 game manager. Well done in drafting the game manager Miami. Correction: 3 studs, 1 game manager, and 1 healthy RG3 with an awesome team around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Just now, FireChans said: Correction: 3 studs, 1 game manager, and 1 healthy RG3 with an awesome team around him. Yes, possibly. But I was dumping on Miami so I am overlooking that for now 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Tua is not a QB that can carry a team. I’ve never been impressed with Tua. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 24 minutes ago, FireChans said: Correction: 3 studs, 1 game manager, and 1 healthy RG3 with an awesome team around him. I’m not sure why Herbert gets a pass, either. He’s wildly overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, Billl said: I’m not sure why Herbert gets a pass, either. He’s wildly overrated. He has had by far the worst coaching of the others on that list so I'll give him a mulligan. Unfortunately for the Chargers they will probably need one year of pain under a new regime to get their cap in order, before hopefully being competitive in 2025. Chiefs fans needn't worry next season. Other than them it is a division full of total rebuilds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 7 minutes ago, Billl said: I’m not sure why Herbert gets a pass, either. He’s wildly overrated. I think he’s a good QB. Chargers having one of the worst defenses in football and his best weapons being an old as dirt RB and an old as dirt WR isn’t his fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 14 minutes ago, FireChans said: I think he’s a good QB. Chargers having one of the worst defenses in football and his best weapons being an old as dirt RB and an old as dirt WR isn’t his fault. That defense forced 5 turnovers against Jacksonville in the playoffs, and Herbert still couldn’t secure the win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 20 minutes ago, FireChans said: I think he’s a good QB. Chargers having one of the worst defenses in football and his best weapons being an old as dirt RB and an old as dirt WR isn’t his fault. Keenan Allen is like 4months older than Diggs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FireChans Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 56 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Keenan Allen is like 4months older than Diggs He’s missed 12 games in 3 years. 1 hour ago, Billl said: That defense forced 5 turnovers against Jacksonville in the playoffs, and Herbert still couldn’t secure the win. Bad game for sure. Still a good QB. Would take him over Tua by a mile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Tua is not a QB that can carry a team. I’ve never been impressed with Tua. I think that we’ve seen his ceiling. It’s funny how some Miami fans and even some Bills fans will advocate to “build around him.” What? He already has arguably the best WR in the NFL, the best WR2, a fast group of running backs, 2 high priced FA’s on the OL, along with 3 other premium picks at OL. Not to mention one of the best play callers in the NFL. How much more does he really need? 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, FireChans said: Would take him over Tua by a mile. Howwww Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: He has had by far the worst coaching of the others on that list so I'll give him a mulligan. Unfortunately for the Chargers they will probably need one year of pain under a new regime to get their cap in order, before hopefully being competitive in 2025. Chiefs fans needn't worry next season. Other than them it is a division full of total rebuilds. This is all pretty much true, but there is just something missing from Herbert. Nothing wrong with being calm and laid back but you have to have some dawg in you, and I have yet to see any in that boy. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Howwww Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, Simon said: This is all pretty much true, but there is just something missing from Herbert. Nothing wrong with being calm and laid back but you have to have some dawg in you, and I have yet to see any in that boy. I'm far from a Herbert apologist, but he certainly gutted it out with the rib cartilage injury last season. He was wincing and grabbing his ribs after every throw, but it didn't keep him from ripping it. Not necessarily a killer instinct, but certainly tough and his teammates probably have a huge amount of respect for him for it. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chargers-brandon-staley-reveals-why-injured-justin-herbert-remained-on-the-field-late-in-blowout-loss/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 21 minutes ago, Simon said: This is all pretty much true, but there is just something missing from Herbert. Nothing wrong with being calm and laid back but you have to have some dawg in you, and I have yet to see any in that boy. I don't know about that he had a bunch of 4th down conversions in that end of the season game against the Raiders last year to get the Chargers into the Playoffs. Staley was awful, and either embodied or was possessed by the Chargers choking fetish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Bad game for sure. Still a good QB. Would take him over Tua by a mile. This is exactly why I say he’s incredibly overrated. He gets a pass for having a career losing record despite having a loaded roster. He has done absolutely nothing to deserve the amount of respect he gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 21 hours ago, Big Turk said: They are mostly easy to defend on offense once you figure out what they are trying to do in the game. Defensively they are porous. Bills easily could have had a similar score to the first game if they would have stopped shooting themselves in the foot. They have a pretty solid red zone defense considering how many trips we and the Chiefs made down there to come away empty or with field goals. And they were missing a lot of pieces on D. Curious what Fangio cooked up down there that was so effective. Since they are no longer in it, I am sure they would not mind if we steal a page from their book. Edited January 15 by WideNine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 58 minutes ago, WideNine said: They have a pretty solid red zone defense considering how many trips we and the Chiefs made down there to come away empty or with field goals. And they were missing a lot of pieces on D. Curious what Fangio cooked up down there that was so effective. Since they are no longer in it, I am sure they would not mind if we steal a page from their book. Anybody here like to play dress-up and have some fun pretending to be a Vice News reporter claiming that Fangio is being featured in their next online installment based on his red zone prowess against the Bills and Chiefs—Hopefully, a lady, who may be able to flatter the DC into revealing his genius? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) With a Lions win, the Miami Dolphins now possess the longest streak without a playoff win. Edited January 15 by PromoTheRobot 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 15 hours ago, Doc said: With my plan they won't be "stuck" as they'll have the ability to jettison him after each season. "Stuck" is giving him a 5-year $250M deal with $150M guaranteed. The way the offense fizzled this last month and their inability to beat winning teams either points to a problem with Tua or McDaniel's system. They will technically have the ability, but they absolutely won't use it until they franchise him at least once. So they are "stuck" even if it's techncially by their own doing, because that's the forced meta. Teams just don't get rid of franchise level QBs in their prime, even if they aren't good enough to win it all. Up until this season there was similar criticism lobbed at Lamar Jackson, Dak (and there might be again soon, despite a near MVP season), and yes even Josh Allen. It doesn't mean any of those teams are getting rid of their star QBs any time soon, because it just doesn't happen without a massive stroke of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) With Detroit's win over Dallas last night, guess which team now has the longest active playoff losing streak (minimum streak of three games)?? Team Streak Years Miami 6 2000-present Washington 5 2005-present Pittsburgh 4 2016-present Las Vegas 3 2002-present Chicago 3 2010-present Seattle 3 2019-present Tennessee 3 2019-present Source: https://champsorchumps.us/records/longest-nfl-losing-streaks-of-playoff-games [with my adjustments to take into account last night's game and reflecting the "Years" in seasons, not actual dates] Also: Pittsburgh's streak is about to become "5" later today. Edited January 15 by chongli 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 15 minutes ago, chongli said: With Detroit's win over Dallas last night, guess which team now has the longest active playoff losing streak (minimum streak of three games)?? Team Streak Years Miami 6 2000-present Washington 5 2005-present Pittsburgh 4 2016-present Las Vegas 3 2002-present Chicago 3 2010-present Seattle 3 2019-present Tennessee 3 2019-present Source: https://champsorchumps.us/records/longest-nfl-losing-streaks-of-playoff-games [with my adjustments to take into account last night's game and reflecting the "Years" in season, not actual dates] Also: Pittsburg's streak about to become "5" later today. In terms of time the Patriots are on that list as well.... Tennessee's last playoff win was AT New England. Appreciate it is probably only 2 games for then but their last playoff win was beating the Rams in the Superbowl. And I think I am right the Jets currently own the longest streak without a playoff appearance? I think it is 13 years.... catching the Bills drought up fast. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: In terms of time the Patriots are on that list as well.... Tennessee's last playoff win was AT New England. Appreciate it is probably only 2 games for then but their last playoff win was beating the Rams in the Superbowl. And I think I am right the Jets currently own the longest streak without a playoff appearance? I think it is 13 years.... catching the Bills drought up fast. You are correct. The Jets are at 13 seasons, with the next closest being eight with Denver: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_franchise_post-season_droughts Edited January 15 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTLBillsfan Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 21 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Perhaps, but Grandpa and Grandma are having difficulty paying the electric bill. 😕 Not the best comparison. The electric rates are a lot lower than what I used to pay with Niagara Mohawk, or whatever they call themselves these days. Of course, they can't afford to Insure their homes or cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 11 hours ago, Billl said: This is exactly why I say he’s incredibly overrated. He gets a pass for having a career losing record despite having a loaded roster. He has done absolutely nothing to deserve the amount of respect he gets. Loaded roster? Who is it loaded with? where do you rank him among QB’s? Higher than Derek Carr? Higher than Baker Mayfield? because I got news for you, that puts him squarely approaching the top 10 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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