MNF game thread: Philadelphia at Seattle

[chongli]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Warcodered]

I guess we want the Seahawk to win so the Cowboys have more motivation against the Dolphins next week...........oh and ***** the Eagles and the refs they flew in on.

Edited December 19, 2023 by Warcodered

[chongli]

 

 

[Blank Stare]

These guys arguing for MVP on the pregame set. I was tracking with them saying Purdy, McCaffrey, Tyreek, etc. But then Marcus Spears chimes in with saying Lamar Jackson is the single most important player to his team. GTFOOH with that. I love Lamar, but Ravens still made the playoffs last year and damn near beat the fully loaded Bengals without him last season. Mahomes? Great, but nope. They’ve won games without him.
 

For years the Bills offense has been Josh Allen having to be super man. If he wasn’t Bills would lose. I think there’s some recency bias with Cook running wild, but Josh Allen has had little help over the years (admittedly some of which is his doing by not taking what’s there), but there is no player more valuable to his team than Josh Allen to the Bills. Take him off the Bills and they're probably a 4-8 win team. 

[Big Blitz]

Go Seahawks!

 

Need Dallas to get a little rejuvenated for their game v Miami.  

[chongli]

 

[Ralonzo]

Leg whip by Seattle #30 on Devonta?

 

[BuffaloRebound]

Bobby Wagner looked 50 years old on that first drive.  Philly targeted him whenever they needed to convert on 3rd down.  

[DrBob806]

55 minutes ago, Blank Stare said:

These guys arguing for MVP on the pregame set. I was tracking with them saying Purdy, McCaffrey, Tyreek, etc. But then Marcus Spears chimes in with saying Lamar Jackson is the single most important player to his team. GTFOOH with that. I love Lamar, but Ravens still made the playoffs last year and damn near beat the fully loaded Bengals without him last season. Mahomes? Great, but nope. They’ve won games without him.
 

For years the Bills offense has been Josh Allen having to be super man. If he wasn’t Bills would lose. I think there’s some recency bias with Cook running wild, but Josh Allen has had little help over the years (admittedly some of which is his doing by not taking what’s there), but there is no player more valuable to his team than Josh Allen to the Bills. Take him off the Bills and they're probably a 4-8 win team. 

True.

 

I'd add McCaffrey & Garrett to that as well. 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, Blank Stare said:

These guys arguing for MVP on the pregame set. I was tracking with them saying Purdy, McCaffrey, Tyreek, etc. But then Marcus Spears chimes in with saying Lamar Jackson is the single most important player to his team. GTFOOH with that. I love Lamar, but Ravens still made the playoffs last year and damn near beat the fully loaded Bengals without him last season. Mahomes? Great, but nope. They’ve won games without him.
 

For years the Bills offense has been Josh Allen having to be super man. If he wasn’t Bills would lose. I think there’s some recency bias with Cook running wild, but Josh Allen has had little help over the years (admittedly some of which is his doing by not taking what’s there), but there is no player more valuable to his team than Josh Allen to the Bills. Take him off the Bills and they're probably a 4-8 win team. 

They were 8-4 with Lamar last year and 2-3 without him. Lamar had 20 tds to 7 ints, while their backups had 3 tds to 5 ints. 
 

has Lamar ever had a receiver like Diggs? They are on their 4th rb; their star TE is out; yet they keep winning. I think Allen is the better qb but this board loves to find ways to put down what Lamar does. He needs to prove it in the playoffs but maybe the guy 56-19 record (while his backups have gone 8-13) might be really important to his teams success. Crazy thought I know. 

20 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Bobby Wagner looked 50 years old on that first drive.  Philly targeted him whenever they needed to convert on 3rd down.  

Guys get old fast in the nfl.

[Bob Jones]

A couple plays ago Hurts slid at the last moment on an outside run just like Dak did yesterday, and just like yesterday, a DB came flying up and hit him, and…there was no call…which was correct. As it should have been for Rapp yesterday. 😉

[LeGOATski]

9 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

A couple plays ago Hurts slid at the last moment on an outside run just like Dak did yesterday, and just like yesterday, a DB came flying up and hit him, and…there was no call…which was correct. As it should have been for Rapp yesterday. 😉

The difference is the Seahawks defender didn't hit the head.

[Juice_32]

Lock has a serious cannon. 

[buffblue]

Why on earth did Seattle not take a knee? The holding call stopped the clock and allowed Philly to get the ball again with no timeouts. Not like the Seahawks were going to convert 3rd and 14 anyway. Very stupid

Edited December 19, 2023 by buffblue

[MiltonWaddams]

That was some grade A offensive playcalling by Seattle. Really impressive. Truly horrible.

[Shaw66]

Three punts after the two minute warning.  Stimulating football. 

[Blank Stare]

59 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

They were 8-4 with Lamar last year and 2-3 without him. Lamar had 20 tds to 7 ints, while their backups had 3 tds to 5 ints. 
 

has Lamar ever had a receiver like Diggs? They are on their 4th rb; their star TE is out; yet they keep winning. I think Allen is the better qb but this board loves to find ways to put down what Lamar does. He needs to prove it in the playoffs but maybe the guy 56-19 record (while his backups have gone 8-13) might be really important to his teams success. Crazy thought I know. 

Did you miss the part where I said I love Lamar? Of course a high caliber starting QB like Lamar is important to their team. That’s not the argument. I’m saying Allen is more important to his team. Up until this year when we’ve finally discovered a run game, Allen has always had to carry the day…every day. Frankly, I’m shocked this is even debatable. Maybe at the national level, but not from someone who watches every game. 

Edited December 19, 2023 by Blank Stare

[thenorthremembers]

I am glad I can watch this before I go to bed, will help with getting me to sleep. 

[LeGOATski]

6 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Three punts after the two minute warning.  Stimulating football. 

[stuvian]

23 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Three punts after the two minute warning.  Stimulating football. 

So you're saying we won't need a separate thread for the second half?

I think I know who Sirianni reminds me of 

[buffblue]

Really tired of Jalen Hurts and 1 yard touchdowns

[Process]

It's so hard to take Hurts seriously as a top QB when half his TDs are three guys shoving his **** into the EZ. 

[stuvian]

I was unaware Patricia had left the Patriots 

[Warcodered]

Just now, Process said:

It's so hard to take Hurts seriously as a top QB when half his TDs are three guys shoving his **** into the EZ. 

But he's got all these rushing TDs, I mean sure he doesn't exactly run in half of them and is essentially delivered like a package.

Just now, stuvian said:

I was unaware Patricia had left the Patriots 

After all his offensive success?

[JohnnyBuffalo]

How many eagles linemen need to be moving pre snap to get called for a false start???

 

I am all for keeping the play in next year but make those Bastards come to a full stop and be lined up with no movement before the snap!!!

 

Got lineman wiggling feet and other guys flinching ….its awful.   

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

But he's got all these rushing TDs, I mean sure he doesn't exactly run in half of them and is essentially delivered like a package.

 

Somebody should start calling him Fed-Ex

[stuvian]

I'm still surprised how often the Eagles slam Hurts into the pile with the talent they have at skill positions 

6 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

But he's got all these rushing TDs, I mean sure he doesn't exactly run in half of them and is essentially delivered like a package.

After all his offensive success?

Starting to think BB gave him that assignment to sabotage his career 

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

29 minutes ago, Process said:

It's so hard to take Hurts seriously as a top QB when half his TDs are three guys shoving his **** into the EZ. 

 

I mean it's not like they just get the ball at the 1 yd line.  He's having a really good season.

[SCBills]

Serves Seattle right for for constantly calling timeouts on 4th downs because they can’t make their minds up. 

[Lionel Hutz]

Pete Carroll is a dumb coach.

[buffblue]

Seattle's clock/TO management has been dreadful

[JohnnyBuffalo]

Wow.   Call timeout.   Let other team challenge.  Call reversed.   
 

I am sorry but if that’s how that goes…eliminate the ability of the other team challenge with a timeout!    How about that wrinkle to emphasize the importance of timeout management!?!?
 

 

[stuvian]

If only those "choose love" signs had been up while Aaron Hernandez was still playing. He might never have committed those murders.

[DapperCam]

Hurts looks like he doesn't want to be there, lol

[Dick_Cheney]

A bit surprised they let that play out. Have definitely seen PI called for less. Had his hand clearly inside the WR’s jersey. 

[stuvian]

Jalen Hurts chooses Love ❤️ 

[Thrivefourfive]

Lockett on the Bills would be gold. He’s such a versatile WR. He’s the slot underneath guy, yet he’s always making plays medium and deep. The guy is one of the best NFL players in the league. 

[TheFunPolice]

Yes!

 

Drama time 

[BuffaloRebound]

I have no faith in Lock driving 92 yards but kind of amazing Seattle has chance to win.  

[stuvian]

Fant can't catch