Bills Hire DJ Mangas as Offensive Assistant

[Stampede]

Didn't he just become OC for UB? If true, I guess when Joe becomes head coach DJ will move into the OC spot. Planning ahead?

Edited December 12, 2023 by Stampede
Just listened to Joe's press conference.

[Captain_Quint]

I hope they look outside the team for the next OC. Brady is on game 3 in his honeymoon phase. He's doing well, but the rest of the season will be harder for the offense with the game tapes rolling in. 

[CSBill]

Call me crazy, but I'm speculating that Joe Burrow, Ja'Marr Chase, and Justin Jefferson had far more to do with Joe Brady's success at LSU than the Assistant Coach sitting with him in the Press Box. Just guessing???

 

As Lou Holtz once said, I've had good players and bad players, but I'm a much better coach when I have good players." Funny how that works.

[Mr. WEO]

9 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

This article just popped up in my MSN feed.  I knew nothing about this.  Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

Nothing, you say??

 

2 threads about Brady's new Starbucks fetcher!

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Nothing, you say??

 

2 threads about Brady's new Starbucks fetcher!

 

I never seen the thread sorry, but thanks for the link

Edited December 12, 2023 by Scott7975

[BuffaloBillyG]

20 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

Maybe an early indicator that Brady will go from interim to named OC. Brady is trending in this direction.

I think that's the likely plan. I'm ok with it for now. Would be interested to see what a full off-season of Brady leading the offense and installing his playbook would look like. But I'm also hoping they do a real search before just handing it over to him. I believe they would still have to meet Rooney Rule criteria before they just name him OC, but not 100% sure if that applies to the interim label.

 

I'm far more concerned with who will be calling the defense next year. To me it feels like we will see an internal promotion, my guess is Eric Washington. But Babich and possibly Al Holcomb may be in the mix there as well. 

[Allen2Moulds]

2 hours ago, CSBill said:

Call me crazy, but I'm speculating that Joe Burrow, Ja'Marr Chase, and Justin Jefferson had far more to do with Joe Brady's success at LSU than the Assistant Coach sitting with him in the Press Box. Just guessing???

 

As Lou Holtz once said, I've had good players and bad players, but I'm a much better coach when I have good players." Funny how that works.

They had an embarrassment of riches. That being said, bad coaching can certainly restrict a team from reaching it's potential, no matter how talented they are.  We can say that at worst, they at least got the job done, by helping the team reach it's potential.  Also, the early signs with Brady are very encouraging.  After a tough grueling game against a tough KC D, I'm interested in seeing how Brady bounces back against a Dallas team that is humming on both sides of the football. 

We seemed to be struggle against man coverage in the KC game, and I expect we'll see a bit more of that as we move forward. 

 

2nd week in a row, where this offense faces a defensive coordinator who shut down the most potent offense in the history of the NFL to win the SB.

Spagnola last week, who shut down the points shattering (18-0 Pats)

and now Dan Quinn, who shut down the most loaded offense I could remember, the 2013 Broncos.  Held the Broncos to 8pts to win the SB.  I believe Manning threw 55 TD's that year, and over 5500 yds.  Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, Wes Welker, Julian Thomas, & Knowshon Moreno as the RB. 

 

Baptism by fire.  Let's see what Brady could come up with this week. 

 

If we beat Dallas, we win the division.

GO BILLS! 

[Utah John]

3 hours ago, Captain_Quint said:

I hope they look outside the team for the next OC. Brady is on game 3 in his honeymoon phase. He's doing well, but the rest of the season will be harder for the offense with the game tapes rolling in. 

I have been expecting this to happen.  Opponents have been game planning to stop Dorsey's offense.  Brady has different tendencies and favorite plays, and DCs figure those things out.  Big test this Sunday against a good Dallas defense.

[Punching Bag]

12 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

This move also shows that Sean McDermott is committed to letting Brady run his offense, which is something the young play-caller didn't really get to do during his short run as the Panthers' offensive coordinator under Matt Rhule (and that job set Brady's career back a bit). 

By firing Ken Dorsey, the Bills may have stumbled into one of the best offensive coordinator situations in the NFL. 

 

It is not "stumbled upon" since he was already on roster and Coach McD, for good or bad, has repeated overloaded on experience.

Joe Brady previously had OC experience and was signed as QB coach.

He has done same thing on defense side of ball.

 

Coach McD generally allows OC to handle offense direction not trying to micromanage it as some head coaches do,

 

[Ralonzo]

"Bills hire DJ Mangas"

 

what i was expecting

 

[AuntieEm]

5 hours ago, Stampede said:

Didn't he just become OC for UB? If true, I guess when Joe becomes head coach DJ will move into the OC spot. Planning ahead?

 

 

  That or he poaches his friend to be part of his coaching staff if he gets a hc gig.

 

  Having Josh Allen as a QB  should give the team the best available oc candidates whenever there is a opening.  So I don't worry too much on who  they hire to be on ataff.  Generally think they get good staff.

Edited December 12, 2023 by AuntieEm

[RkFast]

4 hours ago, CSBill said:

Call me crazy, but I'm speculating that Joe Burrow, Ja'Marr Chase, and Justin Jefferson had far more to do with Joe Brady's success at LSU than the Assistant Coach sitting with him in the Press Box. Just guessing???

 

As Lou Holtz once said, I've had good players and bad players, but I'm a much better coach when I have good players." Funny how that works.

 

Then why fire McDermott? Just get him better players.

[AuntieEm]

1 minute ago, RkFast said:

 

Then why fire McDermott? Just get him better players.

 

 

Indeed the talent you have available will be the limiting factor in how well your t we am performs but it also can be how well the coaches  prepare the players and get them working together on various plays.

[brianthomas]

doesnt move the needle too much for me but if it makes Brady better at his job than i'm all for it. The last line made me chuckle tho: "the Bills may have stumbled into one of the best offensive coordinator situations in the NFL. "

Yeah im not buying this just yet lol. Gonna take DC's gameplanning against what Brady is doing for us to see if he can match it. As others have said, DC's are gameplanning for what they've seen on film to date. But i must say the team hasnt imploded on itself so thats a positive!

 

I think we should play the season out & then evaluate the situation, while keeping an open eye to other coordinators who may become available.

Our team may have moved the ball better after Dorsey left but once again: is a rookie OC really the best option for a team in their "Superbowl window"?

Are we gonna discount this point once again, only to revisit it again in the future when we fire the OC again next time?

Definition of insanity comes to mind lol: trying the same thing but expecting a different result. But hey maybe this time really is different & we really did "luck into the best offensive coordinator situation in the NFL". I mean as BILLS fans we're typically lucky right?

Wish them all the best tho because we need them to be. GO BILLS

[Mango]

14 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

This article just popped up in my MSN feed.  I knew nothing about this.  Thoughts?

 

The Buffalo Bills made a smart under-the-radar move to start the week that should only serve to help the offense. 

Buffalo reportedly hired DJ Mangas as an offensive assistant. Most of the time, an offensive assistant hire doesn't move the needle. But Mangas is an interesting addition to the Bills' staff due to his connection to offensive coordinator Joe Brady. 

Mangas and Brady are extremely close. The two played college football together at William & Mary. And more importantly, they were on staff together at LSU during the Tigers' record-breaking season in 2019 that featured monstrous performances from Joe Burrow, Ja'Marr Chase, and Justin Jefferson. Mangas sat next to Brady throughout LSU's national championship run. 

Mangas has since served as an assistant with the Carolina Panthers and as the passing game coordinator at LSU. He was most recently the offensive coordinator at the University of Buffalo. 

It's not like the addition of Mangas is suddenly going to take the Bills' offense to a new level. But his addition will allow Brady to be a little more comfortable in his role as Buffalo's offensive coordinator. Continuity on an offensive staff is incredibly important. And having Mangas, who actually officiated Brady's wedding, will provide some of that much-needed continuity. 

This move also shows that Sean McDermott is committed to letting Brady run his offense, which is something the young play-caller didn't really get to do during his short run as the Panthers' offensive coordinator under Matt Rhule (and that job set Brady's career back a bit). 

By firing Ken Dorsey, the Bills may have stumbled into one of the best offensive coordinator situations in the NFL. 

 

 

 

Well...if he sat next to Joe Brady, then my god. To the moon!

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By firing Ken Dorsey, the Bills may have stumbled into one of the best offensive coordinator situations in the NFL. 

 

This line reads like "I noticed Dunne said the Bills wouldn't give him credentials, sounds like there is an opening."

[colin]

on this guys name alone i'd pay a fee to attend one of his shows at a club in the city.

 

i picture a guy spinning records and fiddling w switches while wearing japanese comic book themed atire.

 

i'm in full support of this hire.

[Paup 1995MVP]

2 hours ago, Allen2Moulds said:

They had an embarrassment of riches. That being said, bad coaching can certainly restrict a team from reaching it's potential, no matter how talented they are.  We can say that at worst, they at least got the job done, by helping the team reach it's potential.  Also, the early signs with Brady are very encouraging.  After a tough grueling game against a tough KC D, I'm interested in seeing how Brady bounces back against a Dallas team that is humming on both sides of the football. 

We seemed to be struggle against man coverage in the KC game, and I expect we'll see a bit more of that as we move forward. 

 

2nd week in a row, where this offense faces a defensive coordinator who shut down the most potent offense in the history of the NFL to win the SB.

Spagnola last week, who shut down the points shattering (18-0 Pats)

and now Dan Quinn, who shut down the most loaded offense I could remember, the 2013 Broncos.  Held the Broncos to 8pts to win the SB.  I believe Manning threw 55 TD's that year, and over 5500 yds.  Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, Wes Welker, Julian Thomas, & Knowshon Moreno as the RB. 

 

Baptism by fire.  Let's see what Brady could come up with this week. 

 

If we beat Dallas, we win the division.

GO BILLS! 

You are seriously going back 10 years for a comparison.  The Seattle defense that year was lights out regardless who was coaching them.  And to be quite honest Dan Quinn's defense with the Falcons allowed the Pats to come back from a 28-3 deficit to win the Super Bowl after the 2016 season.  I would not be too scared of the Cowboys defense after their performance against Seattle two weeks ago.  

 

We will have a good game plan.  We will play physical on both sides of the ball.  And we have Josh Allen.  Lets go.

[LABILLBACKER]

A 2nd set of eyes sitting next to him in the booth can't hurt. 

[Milanos Milano]

DJ 🥭 

[BillsFan4]

1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

 

It is not "stumbled upon" since he was already on roster and Coach McD, for good or bad, has repeated overloaded on experience.

Joe Brady previously had OC experience and was signed as QB coach.

He has done same thing on defense side of ball.

 

Coach McD generally allows OC to handle offense direction not trying to micromanage it as some head coaches do,

 

I was going to say the same thing. McDermott hired Joe Brady for a reason.

As soon as he was hired, I said “he was hired to be our next OC after Dorsey”, as it seemed obvious that’s why he was hired. I figured he would be groomed to run the Bills offense then take over if Dorsey moved on.

 

and now I almost wonder if McDermott kind of wanted Brady all along.

 

if this ends up being “one of the best offensive coordinator situations in the NFL” (still TBD) I don’t think it’s fair to say the Bills “stumbled” into it.

[Captain_Quint]

2 hours ago, Utah John said:

I have been expecting this to happen.  Opponents have been game planning to stop Dorsey's offense.  Brady has different tendencies and favorite plays, and DCs figure those things out.  Big test this Sunday against a good Dallas defense.

Yeah, the Cook wheel routes caught them off guard and worked great  (since he caught the ball this game). I doubt that same play will be there going forward. 

 

But it could showcase some of Brady's creativity if we run it as a fake and throw it elsewhere, knowing that other teams will key on it. These last few games will be interesting to watch unfold.

[Ralonzo]

51 minutes ago, brianthomas said:

doesnt move the needle too much for me but if it makes Brady better at his job than i'm all for it. The last line made me chuckle tho: "the Bills may have stumbled into one of the best offensive coordinator situations in the NFL. "

 

Yeah I'm not convinced yet. The Chiefs game, they got their preferred defensive matchup an awful lot which was Sneed one-on-one vs anyone, and either forcing the Bills to deliver the ball there, or just knowing the Bills offensive rules would dictate that's where the play would go. There were some wins to be sure, but especially late in the game in crunch time the Bills on O apparently did what the Chiefs wanted them to do an awful lot. There had to be a better matchup or better rules for selecting the best matchup vs that team.

[PayDaBill$]

On 12/11/2023 at 9:41 AM, TheWeatherMan said:

If this is what it takes for McDingus to get fired, I’m good with it.  Outside of Josh and Cook, the offense looked awful last night.  

Comical 😂

[Allen2Moulds]

38 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

You are seriously going back 10 years for a comparison.  The Seattle defense that year was lights out regardless who was coaching them.  And to be quite honest Dan Quinn's defense with the Falcons allowed the Pats to come back from a 28-3 deficit to win the Super Bowl after the 2016 season.  I would not be too scared of the Cowboys defense after their performance against Seattle two weeks ago.  

 

We will have a good game plan.  We will play physical on both sides of the ball.  And we have Josh Allen.  Lets go.

Don't get me wrong, I like our chances at home, but we can't discredit these guys.  Dan Quinn was the HC, not the defensive coordinator.  Even if he's in charge of the defense, he has a lot more responsibility than just that. 

The Cowboy's Defense was abysmal when he first took it over, and he completely turned that unit around in 1-2 years.  Don't believe me, go check out the 2020 Cowboys Defense for comparison. 

As far as Spagnola goes, he always been known as one of the more creative defensive coaches.  He hasn't forgotten how to coach, and it's not like we're talking about 70+ year old guy, who the game passed him by. 

 

As I said, I still like our chances, and think we're on the same side here, but this will be as tough a challenge as any. I think the Cowboys weakness is their LB's.  Hopefully we can attack the middle of the field with our backs and TE's, and also use Josh's legs in this one. 

[Billzgobowlin]

Went to same small college as McDermott and Joe Brady.... and Mike Tomlin for that matter

Edited December 12, 2023 by Billzgobowlin

[RoyBatty is alive]

On 12/11/2023 at 8:41 AM, Ben said:

It's weird timing but it feels like Brady's earned the right to bring in his own people

You realize people have a life outside of Buffalo, and the Bills.   You just dont drop EVERYTING and relocate at the drop of a hat.

 

Expectations by Bills fans, really any fan base are so wrapped out of reality.

[TheWeatherMan]

1 hour ago, PayDaBill$ said:

Comical 😂

Explain oh enlightened one. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

On 12/12/2023 at 1:39 PM, Allen2Moulds said:

Don't get me wrong, I like our chances at home, but we can't discredit these guys.  Dan Quinn was the HC, not the defensive coordinator.  Even if he's in charge of the defense, he has a lot more responsibility than just that. 

The Cowboy's Defense was abysmal when he first took it over, and he completely turned that unit around in 1-2 years.  Don't believe me, go check out the 2020 Cowboys Defense for comparison. 

As far as Spagnola goes, he always been known as one of the more creative defensive coaches.  He hasn't forgotten how to coach, and it's not like we're talking about 70+ year old guy, who the game passed him by. 

 

As I said, I still like our chances, and think we're on the same side here, but this will be as tough a challenge as any. I think the Cowboys weakness is their LB's.  Hopefully we can attack the middle of the field with our backs and TE's, and also use Josh's legs in this one. 

Your points are valid.  But speaking of points look at how many the Cowboys are averaging at home versus the road.  

 

The Cowboys always get a lot of hype.  They looked good against Philly on Sunday nite.  They just don't strike me as a lights out type of team.  McCarthy is one guy who will not outcoach McDermott.  This game just does not set up well for them.  Coming off two big home games in primetime, and now going on the road to Buffalo in December for a 4:25 start.  I don't see them bringing their best.  We will be fired up w a rauckus crowd.  There is a reason that we are 2 1/2 point favorites.  

[letsgoteam]

On 12/11/2023 at 9:47 AM, Beck Water said:

 

He may also have had post-season duties to complete at UB

Could argue maybe that Mangas is just a rental as well?

[Allen2Moulds]

8 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Your points are valid.  But speaking of points look at how many the Cowboys are averaging at home versus the road.  

 

The Cowboys always get a lot of hype.  They looked good against Philly on Sunday nite.  They just don't strike me as a lights out type of team.  McCarthy is one guy who will not outcoach McDermott.  This game just does not set up well for them.  Coming off two big home games in primetime, and now going on the road to Buffalo in December for a 4:25 start.  I don't see them bringing their best.  We will be fired up w a rauckus crowd.  There is a reason that we are 2 1/2 point favorites.  

Very true. Let's hope that holds up for 1 more week.

[Mr. WEO]

19 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Your points are valid.  But speaking of points look at how many the Cowboys are averaging at home versus the road.  

 

The Cowboys always get a lot of hype.  They looked good against Philly on Sunday nite.  They just don't strike me as a lights out type of team.  McCarthy is one guy who will not outcoach McDermott.  This game just does not set up well for them.  Coming off two big home games in primetime, and now going on the road to Buffalo in December for a 4:25 start.  I don't see them bringing their best.  We will be fired up w a rauckus crowd.  There is a reason that we are 2 1/2 point favorites.  

 

 

He sure outcoached Sirianni last week....

[Dat]

On 12/12/2023 at 11:20 AM, Ralonzo said:

"Bills hire DJ Mangas"

 

what i was expecting

 

you need to add his last name too. Careful when you Google it.