FireChans Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Magox said: Im not talking about Josh’s throw, I’m talking about the bad rounded cut made by Diggs. He got wide open. Better ball and it’s 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: The problem on that play had nothing to do with effort. It was not even close to being contested. The ball was lollipopped a few yards short of Diggs, who had beat his man by 2 steps. There are plays to critique when it comes to Diggs, but that’s not one of them. It is one of them, they showed an overhead view of the play and the replay showed Diggs had a lot of open room and the move and cut he made was telegraphed and rounded, with a good move and cut and with the leverage he had on the defender who was essentially flat footed, if Diggs had been the Diggs of 6 weeks ago he would have had 5 steps on the guy. Just now, FireChans said: He got wide open. Better ball and it’s 6. You’re not listening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: The problem on that play had nothing to do with effort. It was not even close to being contested. The ball was lollipopped a few yards short of Diggs, who had beat his man by 2 steps. There are plays to critique when it comes to Diggs, but that’s not one of them. Let me put it another way. Diggs had five catches for a 29 yards yesterday. His longest was 11 yards. That means on the rest of his four catches he averaged 12 FEET per route. He’s clearly not all there. The thread asks if Diggs is done. If he’s not, he’s awfully close. Not sure why fans fear these observations. It’s NOT an attack on the guy’s character! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I’m betting we find out he’s been dinged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Magox said: It is one of them, they showed an overhead view of the play and the replay showed Diggs had a lot of open room and the move and cut he made was telegraphed and rounded, with a good move and cut and with the leverage he had on the defender who was essentially flat footed, if Diggs had been the Diggs of 6 weeks ago he would have had 5 steps on the guy. You’re not listening So if it was the Diggs of 6 weeks ago, he would’ve still had to make a miracle contested jumping catch because Josh would’ve still underthrown him a lollipop across his body but Diggs would’ve been even more open for a TD with a good pass? That’s fair, I agree. 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Let me put it another way. Diggs had five catches for a 29 yards yesterday. His longest was 11 yards. That means on the rest of his four catches he averaged 12 FEET per route. He’s clearly not all there. The thread asks if Diggs is done. If he’s not, he’s awfully close. Not sure why fans fear these observations. It’s NOT an attack on the guy’s character! I’m leaning towards Diggs not being a Bill next year tbh. Just don’t think that was a critiquable play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: So if it was the Diggs of 6 weeks ago, he would’ve still had to make a miracle contested jumping catch because Josh would’ve still underthrown him a lollipop across his body but Diggs would’ve been even more open for a TD with a good pass? That’s fair, I agree. You’re still not listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: That’s fair, I agree. I’m leaning towards Diggs not being a Bill next year tbh. Just don’t think that was a critiquable play. I think some are taking my criticism as a test of his effort or character. It’s not. But watching him immediately AFTER the interception he looked more like Von Miller than a guy who can go full speed. He too looks like he’s playing on slippery ice. Edited December 24, 2023 by SoCal Deek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) Are we even having this conversation if Josh sets his feet and doesn't overthrow him on the bomb for a TD? Edited December 24, 2023 by Dablitzkrieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Magox said: You’re still not listening. I am. Diggs could’ve ran a better route and gotten even more open than open. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Amazing where people get their opinions lol what the heck? Only thing is MAYBE Diggs is in a slight slump. Nothing else happens josh under threw 6 - his speed is still there hes made some incredible catches the last couple weeks - he’s engaged and committed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: Amazing where people get their opinions lol what the heck? Only thing is MAYBE Diggs is in a slight slump. Nothing else happens josh under threw 6 - his speed is still there hes made some incredible catches the last couple weeks - he’s engaged and committed He’s not in a slump. I’m certain he’s playing hurt. Unfortunately the Bills put themselves in a position that both he and his coaches feel he has to be on the field instead of resting him for the playoffs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Like I said above I think he’s dealing with an injury. Looks like we’re rolling with him @ less that 100% because it’s not like we have a ton of other legit options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He seemed to be on the sidelines a lot last night. Does anyone know his snap count? I'm thinking there is a nagging injury 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He's been on the sidelines a lot more than he should be the last few weeks. He's definitely banged up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 His stats have been horrible since Brady took over, not sure why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I guess its time to trade Kincaid. Such a lack of logic on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Let me put it another way. Diggs had five catches for a 29 yards yesterday. His longest was 11 yards. That means on the rest of his four catches he averaged 12 FEET per route. He’s clearly not all there. The thread asks if Diggs is done. If he’s not, he’s awfully close. Not sure why fans fear these observations. It’s NOT an attack on the guy’s character! I think all that states is he has bought in to the team mentality if he hadn't in the past. If he had a slightly deeper ball thrown to him, he would have been over 100 yards yesterday and the rout would have been on. No disrespect to Josh because it was a hard throw but that was on Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He hurt himself putting on one of those “outfits” he’s been wearing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: He isn’t running full speed on any play right now. His effort anfter he knew it was underthrown was minimal at best. I’m guessing it’s because he can’t cut on that ankle/knee. Our #1 receiver is clearly hurt. His longest catch yesterday was for ELEVEN yards. In previous years that underthrow by Allen wouldn’t have been a pick because Diggs would have fought back for the ball and broken it up. Idk what is up with him, but I’ve noticed he has been getting almost no separation. Every completion his way has been a very tight window throw. The number back it up as well. His numbers have fallen off a cliff after starting the year top 5 in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: I guess its time to trade Kincaid. Such a lack of logic on this board. So to recap we would have fired McDermott, Beane. We would have cut Sam Martin, Oliver, Hyde, Poyer, Rapp, Cook, Dane, Dodson, Epenesa, and Gabe. Am I missing anyone? These guys are humans and make mistakes but this board tends to overreact. Can you imagine if we lost yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) When the int. happened, Diggs went out of his way to not dislodge the ball from the defender. He got as far away from play as he could. It was a bit odd. He was playing it as if he were a defender trying not to get a PI call. Edited December 24, 2023 by Governor 1 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, DapperCam said: In previous years that underthrow by Allen wouldn’t have been a pick because Diggs would have fought back for the ball and broken it up. Idk what is up with him, but I’ve noticed he has been getting almost no separation. Every completion his way has been a very tight window throw. The number back it up as well. His numbers have fallen off a cliff after starting the year top 5 in the league. Not sure I've ever seen him break up a INT like that. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockeye Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I tend to believe that they are doubling him a ton as per this article. We don’t have any other consistent offensive weapon that scares people. I don’t buy the “injury” theory that alot of folks immediately jumps too. I was able to open article without subscription, so hope you’re able to as well. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/buffalo-bills-stefon-diggs-passing-game-dallas-cowboys-nfl/article_295d4e4c-9acc-11ee-9c3e-272e6a44b064.html 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: So to recap we would have fired McDermott, Beane. We would have cut Sam Martin, Oliver, Hyde, Poyer, Rapp, Cook, Dane, Dodson, Epenesa, and Gabe. Am I missing anyone? These guys are humans and make mistakes but this board tends to overreact. Can you imagine if we lost yesterday? I hate to break it to you….but we came REALLY close to losing yesterday. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, SoCal Deek said: I hate to break it to you….but we came REALLY close to losing yesterday. 😉 Not sure where you are going with this? We came really close to winning against the Eagles but we still lost. A win is a win 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I hate to break it to you….but we came REALLY close to losing yesterday. 😉 Lots of teams come REALLY close to losing in any given Sunday. The only thing that matters is the end result. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: Not sure where you are going with this? We came really close to winning against the Eagles but we still lost. A win is a win Lighten up Clarence. That’s what the wink emoji means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He played 60% of snaps yesterday. Something is going on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Process said: He played 60% of snaps yesterday. Something is going on. This. I can’t imagine the hits these guys take. He’s still hugely valubale at 75% speed, and I can see taking himself out for 20-40%. again, we should be nice to him. He deserves it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Diggs gotta get rid of the cornrows and stop wasting his free time shopping for stupid outfits. Focus on the job at hand. 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I think he's hurt and gutting it out Bills are better off not announcing it and teams will continue to give him extra attention and hopefully other guys make the best of the opportunities 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: I think he's hurt and gutting it out Bills are better off not announcing it and teams will continue to give him extra attention and hopefully other guys make the best of the opportunities I hope that your right ... if not then he had hit the wall or has checked out, and neither of those is good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAS Baritone Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, DuckyBoys said: I think he's hurt and gutting it out Bills are better off not announcing it and teams will continue to give him extra attention and hopefully other guys make the best of the opportunities I think he has a rib injury. Any time he takes a hit he has to come off the field for a play or two. That's not like him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman10 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I hate to break it to you….but we came REALLY close to losing yesterday. 😉 Would you rather have games we came really close to losing or really close to winning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I hate to break it to you….but we came REALLY close to losing yesterday. 😉 We were literally winning. Almost the entire game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 13 hours ago, BCAS Baritone said: think he has a rib injury. Any time he takes a hit he has to come off the field for a play or two. That's not like him. That type injury totally fits what’s happening. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Since1981 said: That type injury totally fits what’s happening. Maybe why Allen is throwing him some ground balls? So he doesn’t have to take the hit. Something strange is up with Diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 16 hours ago, John from Riverside said: We were literally winning. Almost the entire game. We were LEADING. We weren’t WINNING. There’s a huge difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) He did get his head hit and neck looked at in the very beginning of the game which could explain the lower snap count. plus he has now hit that dreaded 30 in age and as we have seen many many times, most skill players start their decline. We shall see but I assume it is injuries/banged up body causing this. Edited December 25, 2023 by CaliBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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