Leonard Floyd is what Von Miller was supposed to be

[Richard Noggin]

9 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Do you remember when Tre FINALLY came back from his ACL? Being able to step on the field does not mean you will be 100%, or even close. Von had 8.5 sacks before the injury and looked like a great addition, possibly the difference-maker we needed. Then he got hurt. It happens. You can argue it was foreseeable because of his age, but it was just lousy luck. 

 

People wanted a bold move to bring home a trophy. They took a big swing and got burned. Again, it happens. All the people who say “one before I die” have to realize there are consequences when you swing for the fences, for better or for worse. 

 

 

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Heard 2nd hand (fairly trusted friend heard it 1st hand) that one of the docs contracted to evaluate all medical imaging for prospect physicals got drunk and went on and on about how SHOT Vonn's knees were upon signing. Was uncharacteristically noisy about Miller being a walking knee injury waiting to happen (thought it was a failing physical). Pretty sure I've shared this before (not that my sharing carries weight with people who don't know me or my sourcing). 

[ProcessTruster]

genius OP there.... zzzz

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

4 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

genius OP there.... zzzz

😢

[ganesh]

22 hours ago, RiotAct said:

our D has the highest sack percentage (% of defensive snaps where they record a sack) in the NFL!

 

Doubt they get more than a couple on Mahomes tomorrow, but hopefully we at least hurry him into some bad decisions.

They need to keep Miller on the sidelines and give more reps to Epenesa (along with Floyd). Also, Groot has been very quite in the 2nd half of the year.

[Bobby Hooks]

22 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Von tore his ACL. Von would’ve been better than what Floyd is doing.

I can’t disagree with this. But he’s been great, and with Von going down we needed him more than we could’ve dreamed at the time. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

56 minutes ago, ganesh said:

They need to keep Miller on the sidelines and give more reps to Epenesa (along with Floyd). Also, Groot has been very quiet in the 2nd half of the year.

I think AJE is better than Rousseau and would love to see more reps as well. 

[poblano]

No he isn't.

 

Miller at least he had a part in close the regular season game against KC last year, until now Floyd hasn't been able to put pressure to close a game. Great games he has had, as Oliver and sometimes Epenesa, but none of them have done it in the final series of any game.

 

 

 

Edited December 10, 2023 by poblano

[Mrbojanglezs]

I'd like to give Floyd an extension if there is anyway out of Miller's deal with the arrest 

[SoonerBillsFan]

Floyd and Groot should start with AJE relieving them in rotation.  Von is a liability, not an asset.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Floyd with the pressure on 4th down to win the game. Just like Von Miller did last year to force that pick. 

[colin]

Came around the edge on a 20mm year tackle and put his hand in the throwing arm.

 

Electricity baby!

[Dick_Cheney]

Saved the game for us, very happy for him.

[ToGoGo]

That’s why Miller played today for all the haters. 
 

It was a matter of time. 

[DCofNC]

7 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I think AJE is better than Rousseau and would love to see more reps as well. 

Yeah…. No.  Rousseau is the unsung hero of this DL, he’s very good.  His sack numbers may not be great, but he’s outstanding in rush coverage and even dropped in space a bit today and covered a rb 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, ToGoGo said:

That’s why Miller played today for all the haters. 
 

It was a matter of time. 

Miller seemed to start to settle in there at the end. Hopefully he starts getting going.

[RiotAct]

1 minute ago, ToGoGo said:

That’s why Miller played today for all the haters. 
 

It was a matter of time. 

he wasn’t completely awful.

 

Progress!!!

[Trogdor]

7 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

I'd like to give Floyd an extension if there is anyway out of Miller's deal with the arrest 

The Bills are so far past the cap I don't even know who they can cut to actually save money. They're going to have to let a lot of really good players walk and get vet minimum/draft picks in.

[ToGoGo]

Just now, RiotAct said:

he wasn’t completely awful.

 

Progress!!!

Don’t be foolish. He’s a top tier 1st ballot hall of famer. You don’t quit on those guys just because they’re slow coming back from an ACL at 34. 
 

Listen to yourself. Think. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 minute ago, Trogdor said:

The Bills are so far past the cap I don't even know who they can cut to actually save money. They're going to have to let a lot of really good players walk and get vet minimum/draft picks in.

Davis needs to go. I was a supporter, but he is just way too inconsistent even with Diggs getting bracketed all game. I’d rather roll the dice w/ Shakir/rookie and a 2nd year Kincaid. Use that money to resign Floyd who has been wrecking O-lines alongside Oliver. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

6 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Davis needs to go. I was a supporter, but he is just way too inconsistent even with Diggs getting bracketed all game. I’d rather roll the dice w/ Shakir/rookie and a 2nd year Kincaid. Use that money to resign Floyd who has been wrecking O-lines alongside Oliver. 

Davis will be a free agent.  He brings nothing.  We won’t be resigning him. We need two big time new receivers next year.  Diggs looks shot.  But his contract makes it prohibitive to cut or trade him.  The same w Von.  Ugh.  

[RiotAct]

11 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Davis will be a free agent.  He brings nothing.  We won’t be resigning him. We need two big time new receivers next year.  Diggs looks shot.  But his contract makes it prohibitive to cut or trade him.  The same w Von.  Ugh.  

he’s a decent blocker, but that’s about it.

[balln]

Just now, RiotAct said:

he’s a decent blocker, but that’s about it.

But I don’t think he is. All the quick hitter screens we can’t cash in against hyper aggressive D he’s not sustaining or whiffing 

[DCofNC]

42 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Davis will be a free agent.  He brings nothing.  We won’t be resigning him. We need two big time new receivers next year.  Diggs looks shot.  But his contract makes it prohibitive to cut or trade him.  The same w Von.  Ugh.  

Diggs looks cooked, he’s at that age where he really could be, or it’s just a product of the coverage/scheme.  Hard to tell.   The “easy” drops he keeps making are infuriating for sure.

[DuckyBoys]

1 minute ago, DCofNC said:

Diggs looks cooked, he’s at that age where he really could be, or it’s just a product of the coverage/scheme.  Hard to tell.   The “easy” drops he keeps making are infuriating for sure.

tonight might have been Diggs worst game as a Bill Needs to lose the cornrows

[GoBills!]

39 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

he’s a decent blocker, but that’s about it.

He is the new Bob Woods...Good enough to feel like you need him but not worth the free agent money.

[Gambit]

7 minutes ago, GoBills! said:

He is the new Bob Woods...Good enough to feel like you need him but not worth the free agent money.

That's an insult to Woods. He was a solid WR. Davis is a skinny Lee Smith.

[Kwai San]

On 12/9/2023 at 12:12 PM, Toledo Bill said:

And we probably won’t be able to resign Floyd due to Miller’s ridiculous contract.

We can all hope Goodell helps the Bills out on this one.....

[NoSaint]

12 minutes ago, Gambit said:

That's an insult to Woods. He was a solid WR. Davis is a skinny Lee Smith.

Ha- i might have to resume my “just bring in your swing tackle instead” campaign if he’s just a blocker. 
 

I will forever say I can’t believe they have him a game hall on a no catch day 

[Kwai San]

1 hour ago, balln said:

But I don’t think he is. All the quick hitter screens we can’t cash in against hyper aggressive D he’s not sustaining or whiffing 

Honest to God......if they threw that Diggs screen one more time I woulda just gave up on the Bills.......3 times it didn't work.  WTAF????

[gordong]

Miller is going to fine next year relax...  he's  34 he not healthy yet.  why to people expect these guys to come back at 100%.   it takes longer then a year. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 hour ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Davis will be a free agent.  He brings nothing.  We won’t be resigning him. We need two big time new receivers next year.  Diggs looks shot.  But his contract makes it prohibitive to cut or trade him.  The same w Von.  Ugh.  

Diggs is 7 yards away from his 6th straight 1000+ yard season. Also has 8 TDs w/ 4 games to go. He is not shot. KC put all their focus on Diggs and other guys were able to step up except Davis. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

14 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Diggs is 7 yards away from his 6th straight 1000+ yard season. Also has 8 TDs w/ 4 games to go. He is not shot. KC put all their focus on Diggs and other guys were able to step up except Davis. 

You were watching a different offense then I was my friend.  Diggs is running half speed most of the time, and isn't breaking any tackles.  He also isn't getting any separation from the guys who are covering him.  You can not tell me he has been dominant in the slightest the second half of the season.  And to be honest, he doesn't have to even dominate.  Just get open some and make 3 or 4 big catches per game.  And show some fire!!

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 minute ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

You were watching a different offense than I was my friend.  Diggs is running half speed most of the time, and isn't breaking any tackles.  He also isn't getting any separation from the guys who are covering him.  You can not tell me he has been dominant in the slightest the second half of the season.  And to be honest, he doesn't have to even dominate.  Just get open some and make 3 or 4 big catches per game.  And show some fire!!

Yes, he had a bad game, but to say he is shot is ridiculous. Maybe if other WRs would step up *cough Davis* 

[DCofNC]

6 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

You were watching a different offense then I was my friend.  Diggs is running half speed most of the time, and isn't breaking any tackles.  He also isn't getting any separation from the guys who are covering him.  You can not tell me he has been dominant in the slightest the second half of the season.  And to be honest, he doesn't have to even dominate.  Just get open some and make 3 or 4 big catches per game.  And show some fire!!

He looks like a guy going through the motions and they look like slow motions.  I don’t know what else to say on the subject.  Either he’s slowed down a lot or he’s just not into it this year.   We are used to seeing him go at it 110% and this does not look like the same guy. 

[Ga boy]

13 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

You were watching a different offense then I was my friend.  Diggs is running half speed most of the time, and isn't breaking any tackles.  He also isn't getting any separation from the guys who are covering him.  You can not tell me he has been dominant in the slightest the second half of the season.  And to be honest, he doesn't have to even dominate.  Just get open some and make 3 or 4 big catches per game.  And show some fire!!

Good tape for the Dallas boyz.  Hope they take him lightly.  Wanna bet Diggs burns em bad?

[RichRiderBills]

1 hour ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

You were watching a different offense then I was my friend.  Diggs is running half speed most of the time, and isn't breaking any tackles.  He also isn't getting any separation from the guys who are covering him.  You can not tell me he has been dominant in the slightest the second half of the season.  And to be honest, he doesn't have to even dominate.  Just get open some and make 3 or 4 big catches per game.  And show some fire!!

 

He's in a rut. The play he lowered his shoulder and got the first down was a tough, gritty play. 

1 hour ago, Ga boy said:

Good tape for the Dallas boyz.  Hope they take him lightly.  Wanna bet Diggs burns em bad?

You know Diggs will be jacked up for this one to rub in to bro. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

7 hours ago, Ga boy said:

Good tape for the Dallas boyz.  Hope they take him lightly.  Wanna bet Diggs burns em bad?

Lets hope he runs right by Stephon Gilmore, who looked good against the Eagles..

[ganesh]

On 12/10/2023 at 10:50 PM, poblano said:

No he isn't.

 

Miller at least he had a part in close the regular season game against KC last year, until now Floyd hasn't been able to put pressure to close a game. Great games he has had, as Oliver and sometimes Epenesa, but none of them have done it in the final series of any game.

 

 

 

He did this Sunday when he forced Mahomes to hurry up on the 4th down play

[poblano]

2 hours ago, ganesh said:

He did this Sunday when he forced Mahomes to hurry up on the 4th down play

For the first time in the season DL's were able to put pressure on the opposite QB on the final drive of the game, in 2nd down was Miller and others, in 3rd Oliver batted down the ball,  and Floyd in the 4th