Allen makes history again- this is a big 1

[JerseyBills]

If posted, delete it mods...

Congrats to 17

Officially set the All Time record for TDs by a QB in their first 6 seasons! Wow

 

https://twitter.com/BuffaloBillsPR/status/1726384266664091842?s=20

 

with at least 6 games to go nonetheless,  not sure if playoffs included, phenomenal accomplishment. We're in good hands for a long time fellas

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by JerseyBills

[AuntieEm]

6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

If posted, delete it mods...

Congrats to 17

 

https://twitter.com/BuffaloBillsPR/status/1726384266664091842?s=20

 

with at least 6 games to go, not sure if playoffs included, phenomenal accomplishment. We're in good hands for a long time fellas

 

 

And there's still at least 6 more games to add to that record and if it includes post season would possibly give him up to 10 more games potentially to add to record.

 

 

 

[JerseyBills]

1 minute ago, AuntieEm said:

 

And there's still at least 6 more games to add to that record and if it includes post season would possibly give him up to 10 more games potentially to add to record.

 

 

 

Was wondering the same regarding playoffs. Nonetheless,  an amazing accomplishment.  Literally wouldn't take any other qb over him

[That's No Moon]

The silliest stats from Allen IMO are his rushing stats. He's 3rd in team history with 45 rushing TDs. He's currently 9th in team history in rushing yards and he could be 7th by the end of next weekend. This team has not generally lacked for running backs in its history.

[mrags]

4 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

The silliest stats from Allen IMO are his rushing stats. He's 3rd in team history with 45 rushing TDs. He's currently 9th in team history in rushing yards and he could be 7th by the end of next weekend. This team has not generally lacked for running backs in its history.

Assuming he continues to be a Bill for another contract after this one. He will be #1 in rushing TDs and #3 in rushing yards in Bills history. 

[AuntieEm]

14 minutes ago, mrags said:

Assuming he continues to be a Bill for another contract after this one. He will be #1 in rushing TDs and #3 in rushing yards in Bills history. 

What are the Bills records and record holders for rushing Tds?  I'm guessing it be thurmanator holding the top spot.

 

I googled both and indeed it's Thurman on both.  Now Allen could break the all time td record even within his current contract.  I'd be more than happy to never see him get close to the all time yardage, unless it's just due to having a long and successful career all while wearing a Bills uniform. 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by AuntieEm

[mrags]

2 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

What are the Bills records and record holders for rushing Tds?  I'm guessing it be thurmanator holding the top spot.

 

 

 

Thomas has 65. Allen has 45. He’ll get there in prolly 4 years or less 

[Freddie's Dead]

The bigger record is that Josh just passed Joe Ferguson for 2nd place on the at least 3 TD passes in a game list for a Bills QB.  He's at 23, just 7 behind Jim Kelly.

[AuntieEm]

4 minutes ago, mrags said:

Thomas has 65. Allen has 45. He’ll get there in prolly 4 years or less 

Yea he can get the td record in his current contract.  On smart and timely runs like today he had a few runs that got chunks at opportune times and he did slide rather than take a bigger hit for a few possible yards.

[Mark Vader]

2 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

The bigger record is that Josh just passed Joe Ferguson for 2nd place on the at least 3 TD passes in a game list for a Bills QB.  He's at 23, just 7 behind Jim Kelly.

He needs to win 20 more games as a starter to pass Joe Ferguson and become 2nd with total wins in franchise history.

[AuntieEm]

2 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

The bigger record is that Josh just passed Joe Ferguson for 2nd place on the at least 3 TD passes in a game list for a Bills QB.  He's at 23, just 7 behind Jim Kelly.

 

Chance he can break Kelly's record this year 8f the chips fall right and offense gets its swagger back.  I want him breaking the records of how many different receivers catch a td from Allen in single games.  Who do you focus on 8f everyone is scoring tds?

[Virgil]

Can’t believe no one mentioned that Mahomes sat his first season

[JerseyBills]

13 minutes ago, mrags said:

Thomas has 65. Allen has 45. He’ll get there in prolly 4 years or less 

Wow.. Didn't Thurm have a bunch of receiving TDs too?

I was to young to appreciate Thurman but watched many highlights and full games on YouTube and he consistently looked like the best player on the field.  Could only imagine how dominant he'd be in todays game 

5 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Can’t believe no one mentioned that Mahomes sat his first season

Good point! 

Shout out to Nathan Peterman for getting Josh on the field in year 1

[mrags]

2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Wow.. Didn't Thurm have a bunch of receiving TDs too?

I was to young to appreciate Thurman but watched many highlights and full games on YouTube and he consistently looked like the best player on the field.  Could only imagine how dominant he'd be in todays game 

Good point! 

Shout out to Nathan Peterman for getting Josh on the field in year 1

Besides the point. The point is, 65 rushing TDs is the record and Josh should be there in the next 3-4 years unless he is castrated beyond belief by the coaching staff. 

[PepeSilvia]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

If posted, delete it mods...

Congrats to 17

 

https://twitter.com/BuffaloBillsPR/status/1726384266664091842?s=20

 

with at least 6 games to go, not sure if playoffs included, phenomenal accomplishment. We're in good hands for a long time fellas

 

Also leads the league in turnovers since he came in. Tomato tomatoe

Edited November 20, 2023 by PepeSilvia

[Alphadawg7]

21 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Can’t believe no one mentioned that Mahomes sat his first season

Can’t believe no one mentioned Allen was mentored by Nathan Peterman and started his career with Kelvin Benjamin and Clay as his WR1 and TE.  

 

Mahomes got to start his career after sitting and learning from Alex Smith and was coached by Andy Reid and got to start with a great OL and have Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce for weapons.  
 

The circumstances in which Allen got to start his career on a rebuilding team clearing cap space are not remotely the same as the luxury Mahomes did on a playoff ready team with elite weapons and coaching around him.
 

And Mahomes started a game as a rookie.   
 

Allen setting the NFL record despite the dumpster fire he had to work with on a rebuilding franchise his first 2 seasons is quite remarkable.  
 

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Alphadawg7

[JerseyBills]

2 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said:

Also leads the league in turnovers since he came in. Tomato tomatoe

Misspelling

True but far from all time in first 6 seasons.  And he had only 1 losing season in that span , on a bad team, as a rookie. 

 

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Can’t believe no one mentioned Allen was mentored by Nathan Peterman and started his career with Kelvin Benjamin and Clay as his WR1 and TE.  

 

Mahomes got to start his career after sitting and learning from Alex Smith and was coached by Andy Reid and got to start with a great OL and have Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce for weapons.  
 

The circumstances in which Allen got to start his career are not remotely the same as the luxury Mahomes did.  
 

And Mahomes started a game as a rookie.   
 

Allen setting the NFL record despite the trash he has to work with his first 2 seasons is quite remarkable.  
 

 

This is also a great point! 

[thewookie1]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

Can’t believe no one mentioned that Mahomes sat his first season

 

Mahomes played 80 games.

Allen took 87 games to pass him.

 

While definitely slower, still nothing short of impressive. Especially seeing as how awful his support was in his 1st couple years.

[Dr.Sack]

54 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

 

Mahomes played 80 games.

Allen took 87 games to pass him.

 

While definitely slower, still nothing short of impressive. Especially seeing as how awful his support was in his 1st couple years.

Mahomes also was older which gives him a huge advantage starting only 1 game his rookie year, then launching 50 TDs in one season with 2 all pro weapons for 4 full seasons (2018-2021). 

[PBF81]

Makes one wonder why we haven't gotten more from the team during that time span then.  

 

That seems to implicate coaching as well.  

 

 

[Gunsgoodtime]

Josh Allen is the best Qb the Bills have ever had.  We need to win 1 while he is here, it will be a total failure if we don't

[section122]

27 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

Makes one wonder why we haven't gotten more from the team during that time span then.  

 

That seems to implicate coaching as well.  

 

 

 

We get it you dont like the coaches... you don't have to bring it up everywhere.  Celebrate this and josh and save the yeah buts for a different time...

[PBF81]

8 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

We get it you dont like the coaches... you don't have to bring it up everywhere.  Celebrate this and josh and save the yeah buts for a different time...

 

Oh I'm sorry, it seems that bringing up his being limited by coaching actually does him a service in that department.  

 

Nice hyperbole otherwise!  

 

As you were.  

 

Nice of you to point to other posters however.  Nothing substantive to add to the conversation otherwise then?  

 

 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by PBF81

[ToGoGo]

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Can’t believe no one mentioned Allen was mentored by Nathan Peterman and started his career with Kelvin Benjamin and Clay as his WR1 and TE.  

 

Mahomes got to start his career after sitting and learning from Alex Smith and was coached by Andy Reid and got to start with a great OL and have Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce for weapons.  
 

The circumstances in which Allen got to start his career on a rebuilding team clearing cap space are not remotely the same as the luxury Mahomes did on a playoff ready team with elite weapons and coaching around him.
 

And Mahomes started a game as a rookie.   
 

Allen setting the NFL record despite the dumpster fire he had to work with on a rebuilding franchise his first 2 seasons is quite remarkable.  
 

 

MUCH more impressive than Mahomes. Trust fund baby vs street urchin. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

5 hours ago, Virgil said:

Can’t believe no one mentioned that Mahomes sat his first season

Add a 17 game schedule too...

It's still incredibly impressive knowing he has 6 games to play. He is going to obliterate the record. 

[FireChans]

5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Can’t believe no one mentioned Allen was mentored by Nathan Peterman and started his career with Kelvin Benjamin and Clay as his WR1 and TE.  

 

Mahomes got to start his career after sitting and learning from Alex Smith and was coached by Andy Reid and got to start with a great OL and have Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce for weapons.  
 

The circumstances in which Allen got to start his career on a rebuilding team clearing cap space are not remotely the same as the luxury Mahomes did on a playoff ready team with elite weapons and coaching around him.
 

And Mahomes started a game as a rookie.   
 

Allen setting the NFL record despite the dumpster fire he had to work with on a rebuilding franchise his first 2 seasons is quite remarkable.  
 

 

Very cool, but starting most of your first year compared to being a back up for 15 games is quite an advantage for a record like this. 

[Calidiehard]

24 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Very cool, but starting most of your first year compared to being a back up for 15 games is quite an advantage for a record like this. 

Not Allen's fault Mahomes didn't start or get thrown to the wolves his rookie year. 

[FireChans]

5 minutes ago, Calidiehard said:

Not Allen's fault Mahomes didn't start or get thrown to the wolves his rookie year. 

It’s no one’s fault. Just the reality of the situation. 
 

Mahomes has 89 starts in the regular season. 221 total TD’s.

 

Josh has 87 starts in the regular season. 205 total TD’s.

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by FireChans

[Meatloaf63]

6 hours ago, Virgil said:

Can’t believe no one mentioned that Mahomes sat his first season

And Allen played in a crap team and missed games. Sorry, Pat had to be baby sat for a season 🤦‍♂️

12 minutes ago, FireChans said:

It’s no one’s fault. Just the reality of the situation. 
 

Mahomes has 89 starts in the regular season. 221 total TD’s.

 

Josh has 87 starts in the regular season. 205 total TD’s.

 

Not the metric now is it?  The stat is the first six seasons not a 6 season snap shot. If you want to go that route you would have to compare records of teams played against quality of O line, receiving corps, coaches etc. but that’s not what’s being discussed here.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, PBF81 said:

Makes one wonder why we haven't gotten more from the team during that time span then.  

 

That seems to implicate coaching as well.  

 

 

Aaron rodgers and Peyton manning are two of the best qbs in history and they have 3 total Super Bowl wins in 35 seasons.  

[PBF81]

11 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Aaron rodgers and Peyton manning are two of the best qbs in history and they have 3 total Super Bowl wins in 35 seasons.  

 

LOL 

 

You've just gotta love the things people put up in defense of all things Bills.  

 

 

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Aaron rodgers and Peyton manning are two of the best qbs in history and they have 3 total Super Bowl wins in 35 seasons.  

 

Add-in Brees and it's 4 in 50 seasons.

 

And Mahomes was handed the keys to a Ferrari.  Josh had a Yugo with bald tires his first 2 years.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

LOL 

 

You've just gotta love the things people put up in defense of all things Bills.  

 

 

What’s funny about that? Lol you implied ‘well they have a great qb and it’s embarrassing they haven’t won a Super Bowl in 5 years’…the best qbs in history frequently go a decade+ without winning one.  Some great qbs never win one 

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[C.Biscuit97]

6 hours ago, Virgil said:

Can’t believe no one mentioned that Mahomes sat his first season

I mean you know why. 😂And it’s an insanely impressive number. 
 

to be fair to the old guys, it would have been crazy to see what guys like Steve Young and Randall Cunningham could have done in this era. But Allen is a nightmare to game plan against. 

[PBF81]

2 hours ago, section122 said:

 

We get it you dont like the coaches... you don't have to bring it up everywhere.  Celebrate this and josh and save the yeah buts for a different time...

 

Celebrate a win over a team like the Jets?   

 

Well, OK.  I'll be quite a bit more jacked if we can even make the Eagles game a good game.  

 

Beating the Jets, yeah, sorry, at home with a QB that's quite likely never to seriously start anywhere beginning next season doesn't quite cut it for me.  

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Add-in Brees and it's 4 in 50 seasons.

 

And Mahomes was handed the keys to a Ferrari.  Josh had a Yugo with bald tires his first 2 years.

We’re still trying to find ways to put down Mahomes? Stop, it’s stupid. He won the mvp and sb the year they traded Hill. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Josh Allen is also 8 TD passes away from joining Russel Wilson, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees as the only QBs in NFL HISTORY to have 4 consecutive 30+ TD passing seasons. 

[BaaadThingsMan]

Idgaf what anyone says.

 

OUR QB1 has the most TDs in his first 6 years in the history of the league! 

 

*****in S.T.U.D!

[PBF81]

2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

What’s funny about that? Lol you implied ‘well they have a great qb and it’s embarrassing they haven’t won a Super Bowl in 5 years’…the best qbs in history frequently go a decade+ without winning one.  Some great qbs never win one 

 

I'm not quite sure that's what I implied.  

 

It wasn't what I meant to imply if so.  

 

What's funny about it is how people continually throw up analagous historical facts as relevant exceptions, except that they have contexts that don't even match what's going on here.  Give Rodgers and Manning the defenses that Allen's had and then it's an accurate comp.  Since that can never happen, it would seem that it's not an accurate/apples-to-apples comp.  

 

There are endless such exceptions.  It's always amusing what gets thrown up.  

 

 

[BaaadThingsMan]

3 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Celebrate a win over a team like the Jets?   

 

Well, OK.  I'll be quite a bit more jacked if we can even make the Eagles game a good game.  

 

Beating the Jets, yeah, sorry, at home with a QB that's quite likely never to seriously start anywhere beginning next season doesn't quite cut it for me.  

 

 

Never good enough for some people