May Day 10 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lenigmusx said: I can see that for sure. I actually made that up off the cuff to be funny... but then I thought about it and it fits. Ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 37 minutes ago, QCity said: Josh is Mary Poppins? And Michael Scott did what? Pam oh Pam where art thou? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 53 minutes ago, Lenigmusx said: The concepts people.. I reformatted for the English teachers on the thread…. The snarkyness is really unnecessary and not comical though. Diggs is Jordan… We are not effed. Pippen was a big man distributor Josh is a little bit country. Diggs is a little bit rock-n-roll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 First I always hate cross sports analogies like this, that said MJ was the greatest of all time. Allen doesn’t need to be Brady to win! He needs be Allen of 2 years ago and have a defense play Pippen and stop someone when they have the lead with less than 2 minutes left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: First I always hate cross sports analogies like this, that said MJ was the greatest of all time. Allen doesn’t need to be Brady to win! He needs be Allen of 2 years ago and have a defense play Pippen and stop someone when they have the lead with less than 2 minutes left. For the record - I prefer the Tampa Tom version. The guy that tosses the Lombardi like it’s a jart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, Lenigmusx said: Go for a ride on the Peloton it will help😂 i've hear those things impale you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Does this make Diggs Dennis Rodman? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Anyone remember the book on Michael Jordan before he won a championship at 28 years old? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I'll argue just with the thread title, as it's a little too hard to follow the OP. Allen is, in fact, Michael Jordan and not Scotty Pippen. Allen has transcendent physical skills, just like MJ. Allen is Michael Jordan before Phil Jackson. Jordan thought he was going to win by being the greatest player ever, when in fact he only became the greatest player ever when he had a coach who harnessed his talents in a winning system. That is exactly where the Bills are with Allen. Give Allen an effective offense that he can execute, and the Bills will win like Jordan's Bulls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gregg said: Does this mean Mahomes is Jordan with the Bulls and Allen is Ewing with the Knicks. I was gonna go with Clyde Drexler. Or maybe Karl Malone. 7 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Allen is Michael Jordan before Phil Jackson. But hey, I like this one! Maybe Joe Brady is Tex Winter. Or maybe these analogies have run their course. Edited November 16, 2023 by The Frankish Reich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boco357 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 One question who is Luc Longley? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 More like McD is Doug Collins. We need a Phil Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, stinky finger said: For the record - I prefer the Tampa Tom version. The guy that tosses the Lombardi like it’s a jart. Well when it’s your 7th it isn’t as special! Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 A real TLDR, tuned out after a few seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Where are you finding all22 of the last 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Where are you finding all22 of the last 3 years You really have to dig for snippets when it is going back a ways but I’ve had time…Here is one such snippet from the 2020 Rams game… https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/9/30/21494615/all-22-analysis-buffalo-bills-defensive-woes-vs-los-angeles-rams There are others in small clips here and there if you are specific. To be clear I’m not pouring over game film… I watch the YouTube footage and then find any all 22 analysis and clips of the same game afterwards. I wish there was Huddle footage of NFL games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2021/10/14/22725565/all-22-analysis-some-sweet-takeaways-vs-kansas-city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 People are crapping on the OP because of the ridiculous thread title, but he makes some good points here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 OP, do you happen to smell toast right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: OP, do you happen to smell toast right now? I don’t smell much of anything right now… I unfortunately have COVID… I hope Sauce smells like burnt toast on Sunday😂 Edited November 16, 2023 by Lenigmusx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I thought McD would evolve from a DC into a pure philosophical head coach like Phil Jackson, but I don't think he will based on this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Old thread title was apples, new thread title is Australian chilli 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Lenigmusx said: The concepts people.. I reformatted for the English teachers on the thread…. The snarkyness is really unnecessary and not comical though. Diggs is Jordan… We are not effed. Pippen was a big man distributor they have to criticize . great analysis and realization that Dorsey has eliminated that option and the jet sweeps from this offense handcuffing it. Plus he called exact same plays and similar points in games made it easy for defenses to know whats coming 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Funny thing is I know Phil...and I can tell you there is no interest for him in getting back into sports for him right now, so yeah not gonna work out lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 check the date lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Bills desperately need a Tony Kukoc !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Gregg said: Does this mean Mahomes is Jordan with the Bulls and Allen is Ewing with the Knicks. Hopefully Allen is not Craig Ehlo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Lenigmusx said: I’m sitting home with COVID😩 I think it was brought on by Monday night’s debacle. Anyway, I’ve been bingeing all 22’s and game footage of the last 3 years. In watching that tape I realized that Dorsey has stopped using one of Josh’s greatest strengths, the deep middle crossing pattern. Cole Beasley use to provide such a great underneath security blanket that I think it allowed some of these routes and route trees to develop differently. Much like Brett Favre, Josh can throw a seam route better than almost anyone in the history of the game. How many seam TD’s or even seam routes have we seen this year? None. Why, I think we don’t have anyone one good enough or designated to be the slot outlet in that Beasley role. Until physically taken away by coverage schemes that abused him because of his small stature Beasley was like the Bills Steve Curr the clutch shooter you could go to when Diggs (The Bills Jordan) wasn’t open. KC physically took that away in the two playoff games (Gabe Stepped up though in the 13 seconds game). When Daboll left Dorsey abandon that concept. Could that player could be Harty or Kincaid? McKenzie couldn’t handle it he lacked the discipline to mirror Josh. You need a special player with Basketball like instincts in the slot. Someone who mirrors the QB from the slot. Josh needs this player. I would argue Kelce Swift is this player for Mahomes as “Me Gronk Me catch ball” was this player for Brady. It elevates his entire game and opens up the field. If coupled with under the center Play Action and running game this offense could be indefensible. Josh is different though at the QB position Mahomes and Brady are point guard QB’s. Josh is more like Scotty Pippen a small forward who distributes… The offense is different when it runs through someone with a unique skill set like his. He will refuse the 5-7 yard gimme initially. However when you have a player in the Beasley role it allows him to come back to it after he exhausts the chunk play option. This safety net mitigates risk and promotes both offensive rhythm and sustained drives. This is the difference between Daboll and Dorsey in a nut shell. Josh’s thinks he’s an 11 personnel run and shoot QB. He can be for short periods but he needs his Steve Curr to sustain points when Jordan’s (Diggs is covered) shot is off. If this was coupled with the under center PA run/pass concepts we flashed out of 12 earlier this year this offense could be unstoppable. This year the RPO option route trees where the entire world knows the 3 options require super human QB skills that are not sustainable. A couple great examples of the Daboll concept games are Rams v Bills 2020 wk 3 and KC v Bills 2021. Perhaps the 2021 KC game gave Spags the film to realize he had to physically shutdown Beasley. If Joe Brady really does a deep dive I think he can add the deep mid crossers and slot mirror concept back without flipping the playbook or terminology. Another point- I think Gabe stepping up in the 13 seconds game created a false sense that the slot mirror concept was unnecessary. I think Dorsey and Allen thought they could just open things up…apparently that is not the case. I just don’t understand why they have been so stubborn and I think this above all else is why Diggs is pissed. He is super smart and knows so he is like Jordan before the triangle worked… but his clock for a championship is ticking. I would be pissed too if I knew there was an easy button but no one acknowledged it… (*****Post Now Ribbed for more pleasure…)😂 Kincaid is literally that player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said: Old thread title was apples, new thread title is Australian chilli I guess at least it’s spicy now😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 On 11/16/2023 at 8:09 AM, Lenigmusx said: Dude.. I’m struggling with COVID… read the concepts… I get it but there are those here that think proper English lessons are so much more relevant & exciting when reading about football !! 🙄 WHAT EVER ... All these folks must have really loved the interviews with the likes of Leodis McKelvin ! I would have loved to been a fly on the wall and watch them as he spoke to the media for a interview 😂 !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 On 11/16/2023 at 6:44 AM, BlazinBill said: No he's not- Diggs acts and states he's a leader but all he does is chirp when things aren't perfect -typical pre-madona wr- Don't get me wrong he can be a game changer but comparing anyone to MJ is just silly - dude was a straight legend that liked to play against the best talent and constantly rose to the challenges- His Flu game will forever be my favorite Is your reference to Diggs in the biblical or pop culture sense? I’m not sure that I have a good handle on the era… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Nah, Josh Allen needs his Marcus Aurelius ... https://www.facebook.com/reel/3309952802629220?s=yWDuG2&fs=e&mibextid=Nif5oz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 20 hours ago, extrahammer said: I thought McD would evolve from a DC into a pure philosophical head coach like Phil Jackson, but I don't think he will based on this year. He's actually gone in the opposite direction as he took over the defense and has extensively meddled in the offense. This probably comes form his take away of the "13 seconds" fiasco in KC. If must think that if only he ran everything the Bills would have won that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 As much as I find these Chicago Bulls basketball analogies silly I find the threads equally enjoyable because of how much fun those teams were Do we have a Jud Buechler on this roster!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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