SCBills Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: I really hope we get a DT that can stuff the middle and free up linebackers to make plays. Seems the biggest drop we have on this D is when Jones is out. We sucked with Star, sucked with Phillips. We need a Jones clone. After that go WR and get Hopkins. Maybe a vet CB. That's all we need for a run and to stay healthy. We have a couple extra Day 3 picks. -I can't imagine Hopkins would cost more than a Day 3 pick. He's also under contract for next year.. and while we'd have to find a way to get his contract under the cap next season, it pushes off the need to draft a WR, assuming Gabe Davis walks in Free Agency. I'm saying "need" because I'd still like the Bills to draft one high regardless. -I'd offer Elam in a player for player swap to a team that has a CB or DT that could help us. It seems pretty clear he's not a fit for McDermott's Defense, and we have nothing else behind Benford & Jackson (and truthfully, Jackson should be the depth corner). -DT is where I'd be willing to make a splash, as we only have Oliver under contract for next year. A multi-year player trade makes sense here.. even if it costs a higher pick. The cap next year is prohibitive to doing all this.. UNLESS the Bills are willing to let some guys walk, cut aging core guys in Morse, Tre and Poyer, while exploring a trade to get Knox's cap hit off the books. If they are.. we can both revamp this team before the trade deadline AND build a foundation for next year. Edited October 24, 2023 by SCBills 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: The cap next year is prohibitive to doing all this.. UNLESS the Bills are willing to let some guys walk, cut aging core guys in Morse, Tre and Poyer, while exploring a trade to get Knox's cap hit off the books. If they are.. we can both revamp this team before the trade deadline AND build a foundation for next year. Yup. We're not going anywhere in the current configuration and need to get younger and cheaper. those 4 would be my first attempt at that as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5.3m can afford Suh, DHop, Jewell and another $1m or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Please not a LB. They need a WR and a DT. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Please not a LB. They need a WR and a DT. I see the needs as DT, LB, #2, WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, sunshynman said: I see the needs as DT, LB, #2, WR Add possibly OL upgrade or DB help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, sunshynman said: I see the needs as DT, LB, #2, WR If they need a LB then it is another indictment of McDumbass. He has had Dodson for two years and should know he sucks by now. We have a LB on the roster named Matakevich that can't play the position. If they let Dodson or Williams play teams then they can dress Klein. God I hate this coach. I tried so hard to give him the benefit of the doubt this year. Just let Williams play and learn on the job. Put anyone better than Settle out there and then get Oliver back on the field and the linebackers will be fine. 2 minutes ago, ngbills said: Add possibly OL upgrade or DB help No one is going to trade a quality OT. Oline help will need to wait until the draft. You can get a WR and probably a CB. I don't think they need a CB though. Focus on a WR and or a DT 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) Tyler Bass's replacement. Oh yeah! 😉 Edited October 24, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Tyler Bass's replacement. 😉 Seriously, why does everyone on this team suck lately 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 it needs to be an impact player. Preferably WR. Exception would be Derrick Henry DT, LB, CB would all clearly be welcomed additions too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trust The Process Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) I'd trade Gabe Davis and a draft pick to Indy for Michael Pittman Jr. Pittman is unhappy with the way he's being used in Indy. He's got upside, is good at everything, only 26 years old, 6'4 and 220 lbs, and is in the final year of a budget friendly contract that fits in perfectly with the limited cap space we have. If he plays well for us we also have the option to sign him to a long term contract. Edited October 24, 2023 by Trust The Process 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: it needs to be an impact player. Preferably WR. Exception would be Derrick Henry DT, LB, CB would all clearly be welcomed additions too Trading for Derrick Henry plays out in two ways (IMO): -It transforms the Offense and we brutalize teams that try to play shell defense on us.. which then opens things up down the field. OR -The season continues to spiral. Henry looks washed in our Offense, and we look back at this season like what the **** was all that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: No one is going to trade a quality OT. Oline help will need to wait until the draft. You can get a WR and probably a CB. I don't think they need a CB though. Focus on a WR and or a DT I have heard that argument but recently the NFL is moving to having more trades at the deadline. Tanking is a thing too....I would not rule it out. However, suggesting that is the Bills "need" is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Please get patrick Surtain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, SCBills said: We have a couple extra Day 3 picks. -I can't imagine Hopkins would cost more than a Day 3 pick. He's also under contract for next year.. and while we'd have to find a way to get his contract under the cap next season, it pushes off the need to draft a WR, assuming Gabe Davis walks in Free Agency. I'm saying "need" because I'd still like the Bills to draft one high regardless. -I'd offer Elam in a player for player swap to a team that has a CB or DT that could help us. It seems pretty clear he's not a fit for McDermott's Defense, and we have nothing else behind Benford & Jackson (and truthfully, Jackson should be the depth corner). -DT is where I'd be willing to make a splash, as we only have Oliver under contract for next year. A multi-year player trade makes sense here.. even if it costs a higher pick. The cap next year is prohibitive to doing all this.. UNLESS the Bills are willing to let some guys walk, cut aging core guys in Morse, Tre and Poyer, while exploring a trade to get Knox's cap hit off the books. If they are.. we can both revamp this team before the trade deadline AND build a foundation for next year. DHop would likely even be a pick swap candidate..like trade a 5th for a 6th back and DHop. Edited October 24, 2023 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack78 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Monster trade with Tennessee for Henry, DHop and Simmons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The phrasing of this is interesting. "Recently" doesn't indicate that this just happened, but that it happened a little while ago. Why is this leaked now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, ngbills said: 5.3m can afford Suh, DHop, Jewell and another $1m or so. Hopkins alone is $12 million this year. Jewell is $4.5M. Suh played at $2M last year, though he may be cheaper this year. Where are you getting those 3 players in at roughly $4.3M total? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, cle23 said: Hopkins alone is $12 million this year. Jewell is $4.5M. Suh played at $2M last year, though he may be cheaper this year. Where are you getting those 3 players in at roughly $4.3M total? If the NFL salary cap made any logical sense, you would be right. But Hopkins' base salary is only a little over a million for this year. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/deandre-hopkins-12307/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 The Chiefs brought Hardman home, maybe we need to bring Tremaine home? 😇 j/k Interested to see what BBB has up his sleeve here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, cle23 said: Hopkins alone is $12 million this year. Jewell is $4.5M. Suh played at $2M last year, though he may be cheaper this year. Where are you getting those 3 players in at roughly $4.3M total? Contracts are prorated and the cap hit is lower after signing bonuses are taken into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, ngbills said: Contracts are prorated and the cap hit is lower after signing bonuses are taken into account. Yeah, I understand that. The website I saw mentioned he had a base salary of $12M, which generally isn't including the bonuses. I see now that it is on the site. Jewell does have a base salary of $4.49M plus roster bonuses by game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, Trust The Process said: I'd trade Gabe Davis and a draft pick to Indy for Michael Pittman Jr. Pittman is unhappy with the way he's being used in Indy. He's got upside, is good at everything, only 26 years old, 6'4 and 220 lbs, and is in the final year of a budget friendly contract that fits in perfectly with the limited cap space we have. If he plays well for us we also have the option to sign him to a long term contract. Dorsey would Use him as a blocker 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 up goes the dhop coaster.... clickity clickity click 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, cle23 said: Hopkins alone is $12 million this year. Jewell is $4.5M. Suh played at $2M last year, though he may be cheaper this year. Where are you getting those 3 players in at roughly $4.3M total? Hopkins cap hit is something like 1.9 for the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Brandon Beane has drafted 43 players not named Josh Allen. -> 2 of the 43 have been selected to a Pro Bowl. -> 1 of those 2 is no longer on the team (Edmunds). The other is Knox. -> 0 have been All-Pro's. I say use the draft picks. 3 2 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Brandon Beane has drafted 43 players not named Josh Allen. -> 2 of the 43 have been selected to a Pro Bowl. -> 1 of those 2 is no longer on the team (Edmunds). The other is Knox. -> 0 have been All-Pro's. I say use the draft picks. Where would we get special team players and depth if we trade draft picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said: The phrasing of this is interesting. "Recently" doesn't indicate that this just happened, but that it happened a little while ago. Why is this leaked now? If it was more than a week ago we would’ve heard about it since it’s reported to the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 hours ago, benderbender said: That's all Josh needs: two divas yelling at him on the sideline about not getting the ball Well, Dorsey likes to have all his receivers run to the same spot on the field. Could be fun to watch DHop and Diggs fight for contested catches between one another. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 hours ago, damj said: Yes!!!!! We're bringing in a player we won't ever use. Viva La Process Yup it’s getting ridiculous. McDermott and Beane are going to waste Josh Allen’s prime years. What a waste. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I wouldn't make any trades that involve draft picks until after the game on Thursday. If the Bills lose, I would keep the picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Well, Dorsey likes to have all his receivers run to the same spot on the field. Could be fun to watch DHop and Diggs fight for contested catches between one another. Diggs is elite at a lot of things... contested catches are not one of them. We don't have that guy on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Me thinks the rumours are true about the Bears CB Jaylon Johnson. Please be true. Go get er done Beaner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Me thinks the rumours are true about the Bears CB Jaylon Johnson. Please be true. Go get er done Beaner! I'd rather see a LBer or WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: I wouldn't make any trades that involve draft picks until after the game on Thursday. If the Bills lose, I would keep the picks. Unless this was purely done for roster call ups/operating money.. I don't think you pull a lever like this unless you have a move lined up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsDiehard Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Bills are $4.84M under the cap...knox playing or not is still factored in. They can elevate someone from the practice squad, trade or sign a street FA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This would be the 1st I've heard of a guy costing more on the cap because he's injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This.. doesn't make any sense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, 34-78-83 said: This would be the 1st I've heard of a guy costing more on the cap because he's injured It's John Wawrow, jake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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