Einstein Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 He was routinely targeted, routinely beat, and routinely frustrated. Some fans thought he was a healthy scratch in previous games simply because Benford is better. Yeah, Benford is better… but Elam is also a bad player. They’re not mutually exclusive. 2 1 5 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Your big takeaway from this game is to pick on Elam covering Ridley? 3 1 1 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Trade Elam and our 1st round pick to Denver for Patrick Surtain II. 4 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Yes, Doug Pederson implemented the Kaiir Elam plan. I also think his badness is why the Bills blitzed so much - whoever he was covering was going to get open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) I thought they picked on Jackson in the 1st half and Elam in the 2nd. Regardless, we are hurting at Corner and Linebacker and our offense stunk up the United Kingdom. Our defense had only given up 11 through 3 quarters. They just ran out of gas late. Edited October 8, 2023 by Beast 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Rc2catch said: Your big takeaway from this game is to pick on Elam covering Ridley? He’s bad. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I'm just glad he's out of the dog house. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 No doubt he was bad, Couldn't get off the field on those 3rd downs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Let’s blame Kaiir for Milano and Jones for being injured. Let’s blame Kaiir for the offensive no show the first 3 drives. You clown. 1 6 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Dr.Sack said: Let’s blame Kaiir for Milano and Jones for being injured. Let’s blame Kaiir for the offensive no show the first 3 drives. You clown. Again, he’s bad. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Dr.Sack said: Let’s blame Kaiir for Milano and Jones for being injured. Let’s blame Kaiir for the offensive no show the first 3 drives. You clown. Strawman, much? Those are separate issues from Elam's utter suckage. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, dave mcbride said: He’s bad. Maybe. Ridley is also pretty good. I certainly didn’t walk away thinking Elam is why they lost though 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Rc2catch said: I certainly didn’t walk away thinking Elam is why they lost though Nothing in the OP claimed that Elam is why we lost. You made that up. But he was certainly part of the reason. As were others. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 More of a mixed bag from him today. He had some nice tackles and jams at the line. But his coverage wasn't good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Fans can conjure up whatever imaginary version of Elam they want, but there's a reason a 1st round pick has been a healthy scratch all year and only seeing the field due to injuries. The dude had 11 tackles today. Is that impressive, or is that an indictment of how he was targeted all day, and how many times his guy caught the ball? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 He’s horrible. Seen all I need to see. He cannot play. Beane needs to trade for someone. Idc what it takes to get surtain, that’s my target. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 They picked on him in all big moments. We got outcoached in addition to a lot of other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: Trade Elam and our 1st round pick to Denver for Patrick Surtain II. Why would Denver do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 some players are just bad first round picks are sometimes bad Front offices sometimes make poor picks. Sometimes those are first rounders. Live moves on. We did not win the "superbowl of the 2022 draft." oh well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: Nothing in the OP claimed that Elam is why we lost. You made that up. But he was certainly part of the reason. As were others. I never claimed anything. I said I didn’t view it that way. But please continue on your crusade. I’ll stay out of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 He needs reps. Take the lumps and get him as much experience as you can. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I thought it was called “over reaction Monday “. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Was Elam wearing a yellow flag as a jersey because I saw plenty of 3rd downs converted due to the yellow flag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Beast said: I thought they picked on Jackson in the 1st half and Elam in the 2nd. Regardless, we are hurting at Corner and Linebacker and our offense stunk up the United Kingdom. Our defense had only given up 11 through 3 quarters. They just ran out of gas late. Whoever was on Ridley got beat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Billl said: Why would Denver do that? There was an article posted today about Denver making everyone on their defense available to trade. Looks like they’re in tank mode Edited October 8, 2023 by BillMafia716ix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, MJS said: He needs reps. On the bench. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Solomon Grundy said: Whoever was on Ridley got beat Hyde was in Ridley on the 3rd down late. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Your big takeaway from this game is to pick on Elam covering Ridley? It’s a fair criticism We had bigger issues that include offence, injuries etc. But Elam did look bad out there 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, BigDingus said: The dude had 11 tackles today. Is that impressive, or is that an indictment of how he was targeted all day, and how many times his guy caught the ball? I think that could be it. He heard the whispers about his commitment to tackling and wanted to prove us wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I mean he played a lot of man against Ridley. Ridley is a monster. Wish the Bills would have traded for him. Ofcourse he was going to get beat. Bills were missing half of their starters on Defense half way through the 1st Quarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Ridley is considered one of the best route runners in the game!! I'm not going to overreact to Elam's performance. Bad penalties, injuries and offensive play calling hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Ridley is pretty good Elam needs few games of reps Dude sat 4 games Hopefully light goes on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I thought Elam played better than the outcome of the plays he will be beat up on. Needs to play better and some flaws, but some good throws against him. Tre isn't coming back this season, so right now I am optimistic and glad to have him, even if he isn't going to be a superstar any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 This play sums up Elam today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoofHearted Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Yes, Doug Pederson implemented the Kaiir Elam plan. I also think his badness is why the Bills blitzed so much - whoever he was covering was going to get open. We blitzed because we weren’t getting any penetration with 4. Multiple opportunities for coverage sacks today but couldn’t even collapse the pocket. What’s disheartening is Kaiir was put in position as that boundary corner to be in mostly man situations but lost leverage or didn’t understand what leverage to play with many times. However, lack of execution offensively is why we lost this game. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I feel like I saw Ridley catch the ball 5-10 yards downfield on the sideline in front of Elam - and this is just an estimate - but around 25-30 times today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, BillsFan130 said: It’s a fair criticism We had bigger issues that include offence, injuries etc. But Elam did look bad out there Ridley is a solid player. I’m not sure there’s anybody on the roster who was gonna cover him today without leaving Kirk and engram open all day. I didn’t jump in here to defend Elams play or make excuses for him. I just thought there were much bigger takeaways from the loss than Elams struggles in his first game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Rc2catch said: Ridley is a solid player. I’m not sure there’s anybody on the roster who was gonna cover him today without leaving Kirk and engram open all day. I didn’t jump in here to defend Elams play or make excuses for him. I just thought there were much bigger takeaways from the loss than Elams struggles in his first game. I definitely agree with you that there were bigger issues. Ridley has been super quiet though the last few weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: There was an article posted today about Denver making everyone on their defense available to trade. Looks like they’re in tank mode Sure, but they’re not trading him for a late first rounder and Kaiir freaking Elam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: Trade Elam and our 1st round pick to Denver for Patrick Surtain II. That won't help the Milano issue. Thank God 7 was okay. Just pray for Milano because we need him down the stretch. What a catastrophe that game was beyond the loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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