Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Drew21PA said: Mahomes MVP KC wins another championship doesn’t feel like a Mahomes MVP year to me. Not with where he is at now number wise and with what is happening in San Francisco. Goff could be a good dark horse MVP. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 40 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: doesn’t feel like a Mahomes MVP year to me. Not with where he is at now number wise and with what is happening in San Francisco. Goff could be a good dark horse MVP. Yea mahomes has been winning but they haven't been impressive (consistent and effective for sure) and could just as easily be 3-2 if not for the refs love for KC Swifties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 I was at that game in the nosebleeds. Hard for me to give specific reactions other than 2 without rewatching the broadcast other than: ...and... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 BTW, Allen is top 5 or so in pretty much all major statistical categories for QBs and still leads the NFL in completion % and TDs. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 That was such a weird game. For the majority of the first Quarter Josh played well. The injury to Jackson seemed to throw the Bills offense completely. Before it, the offense was moving the ball well, minus errors from Diggs and Davis plus a missed trip. Then, after Jackson's injury, the offense - including Josh - seemed to lose all focus, with four bad plays to finish the third series, and not getting a grip until the third quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, UKBillFan said: That was such a weird game. For the majority of the first Quarter Josh played well. The injury to Jackson seemed to throw the Bills offense completely. Before it, the offense was moving the ball well, minus errors from Diggs and Davis plus a missed trip. Then, after Jackson's injury, the offense - including Josh - seemed to lose all focus, with four bad plays to finish the third series, and not getting a grip until the third quarter. You mean Harris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: You mean Harris? No, the injury to the Giants' DB Adoree' Jackson at the end of the first quarter. The Bills were moving, he went down and, after play re-started, the offense seemed to go off boil. There were only two O plays after Harris' injury in the second quarter - a nice pass to Diggs for 19 yards, then the tipped INT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 5:30 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: doesn’t feel like a Mahomes MVP year to me. Not with where he is at now number wise and with what is happening in San Francisco. Goff could be a good dark horse MVP. It's Tua until it isn't imo. Leads league in yards and TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: It's Tua until it isn't imo. Leads league in yards and TDs. Josh leads the league in total TDS and total EPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 That game should’ve helped his mvp case but with it being a primarily statistical award with 0 context it will hurt him a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: It's Tua until it isn't imo. Leads league in yards and TDs. I hope so. Let Tua have his regular season awards and drive that $$$ tag up. Miami is already in cap limbo as it is with those contracts they've doled out. This will just add to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: BTW, Allen is top 5 or so in pretty much all major statistical categories for QBs and still leads the NFL in completion % and TDs. This was a weird game…like it wasn’t even that ‘ugly’ per se. The giants were just winning up front handedly. There were a few flukey plays keeping points off the board for both teams and a couple super long drives in the second half…felt like a 23-20 type game to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: BTW, Allen is top 5 or so in pretty much all major statistical categories for QBs and still leads the NFL in completion % and TDs. Man Josh actually went after both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) On 10/12/2023 at 5:30 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: doesn’t feel like a Mahomes MVP year to me. Not with where he is at now number wise and with what is happening in San Francisco. Goff could be a good dark horse MVP. The defenses in his division are so poopy though that I think he’s got a good chance. Tua is lucky the giants offense was completely inept last week he pretty much threw the game away on a couple picks if their offense could do anything Edited October 16, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, H2o said: I hope so. Let Tua have his regular season awards and drive that $$$ tag up. Miami is already in cap limbo as it is with those contracts they've doled out. This will just add to it. He finishes the season tops in yards and i dunno how miami gets out of making him the highest paid player ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: BTW, Allen is top 5 or so in pretty much all major statistical categories for QBs and still leads the NFL in completion % and TDs. Look at Torrance. He's chugging in there to help his man Spencer Brown - then he looks to his L and see Josh Allen taking on a LB "oh ***** gotta protect the QB!" This was after Josh went to the blue tent with a shoulder injury right? He went to the blue tent with a shoulder injury and he's taking out a LB leading with his R shoulder? With Chris Simms, I can not disagree - but I also wonder why we don't see more Quintin Morris. He has improved his blocking skills, and Allen obviously trusts him --- wasn't he the one who got free in the EZ for a TD on a scramble drill at the end of the half vs. Miami? Hyde be over there going "don't throw it...don't throw it...don't throw it....NICE THROW!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: It's Tua until it isn't imo. Leads league in yards and TDs. No he doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 45 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: That game should’ve helped his mvp case but with it being a primarily statistical award with 0 context it will hurt him a lot 2 TDs and one pick doesn't hurt him a lot. Still leads the league in TDs on the season. Dolphins schedule is a joke. If Tua stays healthy he is going to put up MVP numbers. Might come down to who wins the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Process said: 2 TDs and one pick doesn't hurt him a lot. Still leads the league in TDs on the season. Dolphins schedule is a joke. If Tua stays healthy he is going to put up MVP numbers. Might come down to who wins the division. He’s almost out of his joke portion though and mahomes has nearly a full division slate of joke games. The dolphins have played like 4 of the bottom 5 teams already 😂 I really thought our pass blocking turned the corner and this was gonna be Josh’s year but that does not seem to be the case. He’s still got a chance though The 1 pick didn’t hurt in itself but his total is a little high on the year and the low yardage total doesn’t help.. I wish they looked into the context a little more for mvp votes cuz the vast majority of Allen’s picks have been pretty good arm punts that strategically didn’t really hurt Edited October 16, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: That truly was an absolutely insane play by Allen. The scrambling, the scanning and then the throw. A beauty! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Dolphins still get to play the Eagles, Jets x2, Bills, Ravens, Chiefs and Cowboys which are decent to elite defenses. Commanders also have a decent defense even if the Bills smoked them (that was more on the Commanders offense turning it over). We'll see what Tua really is after this stretch. Almost no cupcakes left on that schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: It's Tua until it isn't imo. Leads league in yards and TDs. not sure they will finish with the conferences best record. That will be a problem if the Bills earn the one seed and Allen is still one or two in total TD’s Goff is looking better and better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Latest Betting Mahomes- 3/1 Tua - 3.5/1 JA - 6/1 If anyone still likes Purdy he has blown to 14/1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Process said: 2 TDs and one pick doesn't hurt him a lot. Still leads the league in TDs on the season. Dolphins schedule is a joke. If Tua stays healthy he is going to put up MVP numbers. Might come down to who wins the division. By definition, Dolphins schedule is the same as the Bills except the 2 division winner crossovers and NFC crossover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 59 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: By definition, Dolphins schedule is the same as the Bills except the 2 division winner crossovers and NFC crossover. We get cinci, they get baltimore. Wash We get Tampa, they get Carolina. Advantage Miami We get Jacksonville, they get tennessee. Advantage them. Not crazy difference though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 I think Josh's shoulder was a bigger problem than he let on. He missed several passes he's normally money on... particularly those ones he escapes the pocket and rolls right. I hope we can scrape out a win on Thursday and he can use this extended 11 day mini bye to get healthier. Happy we have the bye late in the season just before the Chiefs. Hey guys... watch the rest of the QBs in the NFL. None are dominating. All are inconsistent. Mahomes included. Allen still... #1 in total TDs #3 in Completion % #6 in Passing Yards #5 in Passer Rating Oh yeah... and he's gone 6 straight games without fumbling the football. Not losing a fumble... fumbling period. Throughout the span of the rest of his career he's never had more than 3 straight games without fumbling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I think Josh's shoulder was a bigger problem than he let on. He missed several passes he's normally money on... particularly those ones he escapes the pocket and rolls right. I hope we can scrape out a win on Thursday and he can use this extended 11 day mini bye to get healthier. Happy we have the bye late in the season just before the Chiefs. Hey guys... watch the rest of the QBs in the NFL. None are dominating. All are inconsistent. Mahomes included. Allen still... #1 in total TDs #3 in Completion % #6 in Passing Yards #5 in Passer Rating Oh yeah... and he's gone 6 straight games without fumbling the football. Not losing a fumble... fumbling period. Throughout the span of the rest of his career he's never had more than 3 straight games without fumbling. They're gonna give him a fumble on that meaningless last play though right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I think Josh's shoulder was a bigger problem than he let on. He missed several passes he's normally money on... particularly those ones he escapes the pocket and rolls right. I hope we can scrape out a win on Thursday and he can use this extended 11 day mini bye to get healthier. Happy we have the bye late in the season just before the Chiefs. Hey guys... watch the rest of the QBs in the NFL. None are dominating. All are inconsistent. Mahomes included. Allen still... #1 in total TDs #3 in Completion % #6 in Passing Yards #5 in Passer Rating Oh yeah... and he's gone 6 straight games without fumbling the football. Not losing a fumble... fumbling period. Throughout the span of the rest of his career he's never had more than 3 straight games without fumbling. Didn’t he fumble against the giants? Thought he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Franco_92 said: They're gonna give him a fumble on that meaningless last play though right? They probably did, there's one on the stat sheet for the game which confused me until I figured out it was the end of the game play, which is kind of stupid, but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 This thread should be closed. As long as McD and Dorsey are coaching, you can forget any MVP talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, Franco_92 said: They're gonna give him a fumble on that meaningless last play though right? Touche... I stand corrected. He hadn't fumbled in 5 straight games. That was the longest stretch of his career. I just plain forgot about the last stupid play... Too bad Diggs dropped that pass. Hail Mary woulda been fun. 59 minutes ago, mrags said: Didn’t he fumble against the giants? Thought he did No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 9:11 AM, Aussie Joe said: Latest Betting Mahomes- 3/1 Tua - 3.5/1 JA - 6/1 If anyone still likes Purdy he has blown to 14/1 Update … JA now dropped to 5th favourite at 9/1 Lamar and Hurts have moved ahead of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 Still too close, but what a game by Josh even with an injured shoulder. I still absolutely HATE that we aren't QB sneaking it every single time we have a 3rd or 4th and 1. Hello? Tush push every time please???? Guys... right now Allen is #1 in the NFL in 2 important stats: 71.7% completion percentage 22 TDs This first tweet shorts Allen one TD, which almost emphasizes the point. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Another game of 75% completions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Allen could have put up 350+ and another TD if Dorsey/McDermott didn’t get so conservative with the play calling. But he isn’t going to win MVP, because the Bills aren’t going to have the #1 seed. Mahomes will have similar stats, and KC will be the #1 seed. He’s going to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I mean I get that he has been leading this, and more than likely will continue to lead this barring something ridiculous, but he does have an extra game on everyone but Baker right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Josh is quietly having the best season of his career but the rest of the team's chemistry is weird and he has inflated INTs due to Week 1 so Mahomes is probably in the driver's seat just based on KC doing what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Still too close, but what a game by Josh even with an injured shoulder. I still absolutely HATE that we aren't QB sneaking it every single time we have a 3rd or 4th and 1. Hello? Tush push every time please???? Guys... right now Allen is #1 in the NFL in 2 important stats: 71.7% completion percentage 22 TDs This first tweet shorts Allen one TD, which almost emphasizes the point. I was SCREAMING at Diggs to go down lmao. He was churning with one arm on the ball and Tampa was swinging. 11 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Allen could have put up 350+ and another TD if Dorsey/McDermott didn’t get so conservative with the play calling. But he isn’t going to win MVP, because the Bills aren’t going to have the #1 seed. Mahomes will have similar stats, and KC will be the #1 seed. He’s going to get it. I have accepted the fact that there won't be an AFCCG played outside of Arrowhead for a looooong, long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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