Dillenger4 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 OK - Last night sucked. Full stop. Bad play calling, Josh playing like sugar-rush-Josh. But can we please discuss the Tre White comedy act? He cost us this game just as much as Josh. On the long Breece Hall run from their 3 yard line... Tre came in and whiffed. Absolutely missed on the tackle. Boom - 3 points for the Jets. Third and long,Bills up 13-3. Tre, again, whiffed on the tackle behind the line. First down. Eventual FG. Jets TD to tie the game - Tre 1-on-1. BURNED like always. The dude is the weakest link on a very good D. I know you all love him... "Pro bowler blah blah". He is weak and plays like a civ. Teams will attack him. 5 2 9 2 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Dillenger4 said: OK - Last night sucked. Full stop. Bad play calling, Josh playing like sugar-rush-Josh. But can we please discuss the Tre White comedy act? He cost us this game just as much as Josh. On the long Breece Hall run from their 3 yard line... Tre came in and whiffed. Absolutely missed on the tackle. Boom - 3 points for the Jets. Third and long,Bills up 13-3. Tre, again, whiffed on the tackle behind the line. First down. Eventual FG. Jets TD to tie the game - Tre 1-on-1. BURNED like always. The dude is the weakest link on a very good D. I know you all love him... "Pro bowler blah blah". He is weak and plays like a civ. Teams will attack him. Tre was abysmal last night 6 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 On the TD he got his hand on the ball but Wilson made an absolutely incredible play to snag it. 8 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 "Jets TD to tie the game - Tre 1-on-1. BURNED like always" He def whiffed on those couple tackles which hurt. He wasn't burned on the TD play at all when he actually deflected the ball. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 He always is. In big games, or when the team needs a play - he ain't even in the area code. Wimpy on tackles. Benford was chugging hard, Bernard was hitting hard. TRE?? JOKE! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) I guess I don't share the same sentiments as you. From what I saw, he played well. How many yards did Wilson have? Like 60 on the night? (without googling) What we don't see, or have stats on, is how many times was Jets QB Wilson unable to throw to Wilson because of good defending on Tre's behalf? jets Offense was kept to 22 points, which includes OT. I'd say D played pretty well. Edited September 12, 2023 by Blackbeard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Real McNasty said: "Jets TD to tie the game - Tre 1-on-1. BURNED like always" He def whiffed on those couple tackles which hurt. He wasn't burned on the TD play at all when he actually deflected the ball. Deflected the ball? OK then... He didn't even touch it. Go look dude. wasn't close. He needs to defend that play. Never does. 4 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 He struggled in run fills. But for pass plays, did he even let up a completion outside of that ridiculous circus catch by G Wilson? 7 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I didn’t think he was terrible overall last night but he’s certainly trending the way of Hyde and Poyer. The amount of holes and needs across this roster at the end of the season will be shocking. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Only agree on the tackling pass d was decent he held one of the better wr to under 40 and that was a heck of a catch by Wilson - circus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Tre was abysmal last night Hahahaha. No. He played very well and had poor tackling 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Gotta cut him some slack…just did his knee two years ago.. Another two years he’ll be fine .. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Blackbeard said: I guess I don't share the same sentiments as you. From what I saw, he played well. How many yards did Wilson have? Like 60 on the night? (without googling) jets Offense was kept to 22 points, which includes OT. I'd say D played pretty well. I agree 100% - The D played very good. Just not Tre. And trust me.. teams will attack him. He's that bad. Mark it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Dillenger4 said: Deflected the ball? OK then... He didn't even touch it. Go look dude. wasn't close. He needs to defend that play. Never does. This isn't BURNED. Edited September 12, 2023 by Real McNasty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, BillsFan130 said: He struggled in run fills. But for pass plays, did he even let up a completion outside of that ridiculous circus catch by G Wilson? Wilson was clearly terrified to throw the ball to that side of the field. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Yea, I’m having a hard time blaming a corner for the two run plays plus a miracle catch that was well defended. he missed a tackle on a goofy play call for the defense and multiple guys seemingly out of position on the long run. His miss looked like a symptom not the cause of the issue there 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: Wilson was clearly terrified to throw the ball to that side of the field. until he did and they needed a TD. OOps, wait. Right.. scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Jets TD to tie the game - Tre 1-on-1. BURNED like always. I suggest you open your eyes the next time you watch this replay. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Yea, I’m having a hard time blaming a corner for the two run plays plus a miracle catch that was well defended. he missed a tackle on a goofy play call for the defense and multiple guys seemingly out of position on the long run. His miss looked like a symptom not the cause of the issue there His primary job on that play was to keep the play inside, which he did. Bernard and Poyer were the culprits on that one, imo. 2 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: until he did and they needed a TD. OOps, wait. Right.. scored. Yeah, a miracle bounce on a ball he defended means White sucks. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Dillenger4 said: until he did and they needed a TD. OOps, wait. Right.. scored. Yikes....he got a piece of it and Wilson did something incredible...he deflected the pass to give himself another chance to catch it. I think youre delusional bro. That coulda happened on any DB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, eball said: I suggest you open your eyes the next time you watch this replay. Oh I've seen it enough. Mr White falling on his arse while the Jets dance in the endzone. wimpy play 100% 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Wilson had 5 catches for 34 yards and one touchdown, so if Trey was that bad last night then what was you're opinion on sauce who is supposedly a lock down corner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 The TD was tremendous coverage and should have been an incompletion. Yes, Tre whiffed badly on the runs. Tackling has never been his strong suit, though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I don't blame him for that TD pass. The coverage was there. The receiver just made a spectacular catch. You aren't use to seeing those because our receivers rarely make them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Ramza86 said: Yikes....he got a piece of it and Wilson did something incredible...he deflected the pass to give himself another chance to catch it. I think youre delusional bro. That coulda happened on any DB. Hey man... to each thier own. But this right here is the kind of reaction that bothers me with the Bills. How bout "Make the play". Make teh tackle. Hmm... great idea right? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Doc said: On the TD he got his hand on the ball but Wilson made an absolutely incredible play to snag it. This is another theme going back to last year… opposing receivers make incredible, catch of the week type receptions to seal a win. Our guys ..not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just know when you cast blame on Tre White you do so knowing White has a strong fan base… he’s a fun guy, like Allen. I don’t think any player outside of Diggs deserves defending today, it’s one game. Bring on the Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Yeah, the number 1 cb (where a 1st round pick cb can’t even get on the field) was the reason we lost on a night where the other team had 140 yards passing!!! This board is getting dumber. dude literally shut down a top 10 receiver all night minus one of the greatest catches I have ever seen. And if you depending on Tre White to be the main guy on run support, that is a very flawed scheme. the jets had 140 yards passing and people blame Tre. 😂😂😂 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Yeah, the number 1 cb (where a 1st round pick cb can’t even get on the field) was the reason we lost on a night where the other team had 140 yards passing!!! This board is getting dumber. dude literally shut down a top 10 receiver all night minus one of the greatest catches I have ever seen. And if you depending on Tre White to be the main guy on run support, that is a very flawed scheme. the jets had 140 yards passing and people blame Tre. 😂😂😂 Honestly you aren't wrong here I am actually stunned people think our corners were bad yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Simon said: His primary job on that play was to keep the play inside, which he did. Bernard and Poyer were the culprits on that one, imo. Yeah, a miracle bounce on a ball he defended means White sucks. agreed. would’ve been great to see him make the play but he absolutely wasn’t supposed to be the last line of defense. im very curious to see the poyer tape on the day. And very nervous to see him against an offense attacking on all levels of the defense as opposed to a very contained jets game plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Before he got hurt he was excellent. He made some of the Biggest plays this team (post SB era) ever made. He won’t ever be the same and I’m very worried about him against the Dolphins. We have zero speed on the backend which is a place you need to have it. I was stunned that Benford ran down Hall on that long run. That should have been a game saving tackle but of course we went full meltdown and lost anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Horrible take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, BillzFreak said: Honestly you aren't wrong here I am actually stunned people think our corners were bad yesterday. It's been an ongoing crusade with this one individual, the rest of the fanbase knows better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulds 808080 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 40 yards to one of the top WR and he sucks?? I don't get it!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, BillzFreak said: Honestly you aren't wrong here I am actually stunned people think our corners were bad yesterday. I played flag football for the first time in forever (used to be good, might be washed up sadly). It’s so hard to cover regular dudes. I can’t imagine what it must be like to cover Garrett Wilson. I don’t think there is a position that fans are dumber about than cornerback. It is an impossible position. This reminds of people who dumped on Gilmore, who is still a legit good corner, for giving up a catch. It’s so idiotic. We gave up 140 yards passing!!! 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: agreed. would’ve been great to see him make the play but he absolutely wasn’t supposed to be the last line of defense. im very curious to see the poyer tape on the day. And very nervous to see him against an offense attacking on all levels of the defense as opposed to a very contained jets game plan. To be fair, White is almost our MLB’s size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I played flag football for the first time in forever (used to be good, might be washed up sadly). It’s so hard to cover regular dudes. I can’t imagine what it must be like to cover Garrett Wilson. I don’t think there is a position that fans are dumber about than cornerback. It is an impossible position. This reminds of people who dumped on Gilmore, who is still a legit good corner, for giving up a catch. It’s so idiotic. We gave up 140 yards passing!!! To be fair, White is almost our MLB’s size. lot of folks think that the old school maul a WR, then decapitate him when he tries to catch the ball and truly lock him down style of corner is still a thing at this point your corners are largely triage against a good offense - avoiding the big play, and hopefully turning a turnover or two to end drives 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Moulds 808080 said: 40 yards to one of the top WR and he sucks?? I don't get it!! I would suggest that you're not the one that doesn't get it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I’m not as worried about Tre. He defended the pass, lucky bounce. He’s never been a great run stopper. Of you want something to be irritated about, that second year first round corner getting the Aaron Maybiin healthy scratch treatment?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: I guess I don't share the same sentiments as you. From what I saw, he played well. How many yards did Wilson have? Like 60 on the night? (without googling) What we don't see, or have stats on, is how many times was Jets QB Wilson unable to throw to Wilson because of good defending on Tre's behalf? jets Offense was kept to 22 points, which includes OT. I'd say D played pretty well. he was the reason that Hall had the night he did. Do his job and make that tackle, and NO ONE is bitching about the run defense today period he was flat out awful as a tackler last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: jets Offense was kept to 22 points, which includes OT. I'd say D played pretty well. We limited their offense to 16 points really - ST got their last 6 points. Can't blame the D (or Tre White) on the punt return TD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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