Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Think they'll sell a gulfstream or two? 5 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Meanwhile lets put games on 3 different subscription services as the season goes on. 26 4 1 2 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Meanwhile lets put games on 3 different subscription services as the season goes on. Highest bidders get each tv package. You think the NFL gives a damn how many channels you pay for? Most people have ESPN already, and I would bet a large number also have amazon prime. What is the 3rd subscription service? 2 4 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, LabattBlue said: Highest bidders get each tv package. You think the NFL gives a damn how many channels you pay for? Most people have ESPN already, and I would bet a large number also have amazon prime. What is the 3rd subscription service? peacock, homie 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Highest bidders get each tv package. You think the NFL gives a damn how many channels you pay for? Most people have ESPN already, and I would bet a large number also have amazon prime. What is the 3rd subscription service? Don’t forget Sunday ticket and nfl network Edited September 1, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: peacock, homie How many games are on peacock throughout the season homie? 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Don’t forget Sunday ticket and nfl network Sunday ticket has always been $$$. Do you really expect to get that for free? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: How many games are on peacock throughout the season homie? only one I care about, my dude NFL and YT missed a huge opportunity to have a "team ticket" service 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: only one I care about, my dude NFL and YT missed a huge opportunity to have a "team ticket" service I am repeating myself but…They don’t care!!! The current system of handing out broadcast rights is making them fistfuls of $$$. No need to fix something that isn’t broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) I question whether anyone doing free streaming somehow would pay for a package anyway. Seems to me that's why they do it to begin with. Edited September 22, 2023 by PBF81 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, LabattBlue said: I am repeating myself but…They don’t care!!! The current system of handing out broadcast rights is making them fistfuls of $$$. No need to fix something that isn’t broke. Exactly the point of this thread as long as they don't care, no one should care about pirate streams 5 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: How many games are on peacock throughout the season homie? Sunday ticket has always been $$$. Do you really expect to get that for free? They get their stadiums subsidized and largely paid for with public money...the games should be easily accessible to watch... or they could privately fund their stadiums and give back their anti trust exception. 10 6 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Exactly the point of this thread as long as they don't care, no one should care about pirate streams Oops. I got sidetracked. If I was the NFL, I would also do everything possible to shutdown pirated streams. I pay to watch games on Amazon, Peacock, and ESPN. So should all the thiefs. Edited September 1, 2023 by LabattBlue 3 5 1 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 I mean hey: nothing brings change faster than rich people losing money. 6 5 6 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) I don’t care how rich they are, stealing from them, or anyone, is wrong. If you don’t like the cost, stop watching and following. THAT will sting in all kinds of ancillary ways. Jersey’s and general merch and such. I don’t blame anyone for trying to protect their rights. EDIT: Important note here, it says they “are losing” millions/year, which is a bit misleading. They are more accurately failing to capture that money. “Losing” almost makes it sound like the media would want to enflame people by implying the billionaires are actually claiming they are losing money. Edited September 1, 2023 by Augie 1 2 3 1 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) The NFL is ridiculous to watch games. I haven’t had cable in a couple years and I tried to do it the “right way” by paying and it’s insanely difficult without getting roped into long term contracts that tend to get obnoxious at the end. If I was local I’d be satisfied to watch buffalo games and sit out the rest or catch up on social media to the rest of the league. Mostly anything free that is going to show illegal streams is hardly watchable between the quality being bad, the streams being shut down and buffering. I would love to see one of these executives tune into a free illegal stream, they’d probably laugh after 2-3 minutes and let it go. As for some paid services, I’ve had great luck when they’re working. Always the risk it just magically disappears though. Edited September 1, 2023 by Rc2catch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t care how rich they are, stealing from them, or anyone, is wrong. If you don’t like the cost, stop watching and following. THAT will sting in all kinds of ancillary ways. Jersey’s and general merch and such. I don’t blame anyone for trying to protect their rights. Here's the thing about black markets: They fill the needs that the legitimate markets don't. That's why they're literally impossible to shut down. You're right, stealing IS wrong. But until they wise up, it's gonna keep happening. 10 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: They get their stadiums subsidized and largely paid for with public money...the games should be easily accessible to watch... or they could privately fund their stadiums and give back their anti trust exception. This is an excellent point as well. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 If this keeps up the owners will be forced to sell their 3rd vacation home and lay off 35 landscaping engineers 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: If this keeps up the owners will be forced to sell their 3rd vacation home and lay off 35 landscaping engineers Is that making you nervous? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 leave my streams alone roger 2 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 how is it possible to steal something that isn't economically scarce? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 38 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: peacock 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 It isn't even a loss, right? Like sports leagues are not in the red because of it, they are just not making an additional $28B split between networks, streamers, advertisers, teams, and salary caps, right? I would think once you break down all the parties that that $28B goes to, the loss in profit is fairly negligible. The cost for consumption is getting way too high. We have gone from basically free with an antenna, to heading to the bowling ally for $2 beers during blackout games, to needing to spend $100 per month on a streaming service on top of the $100 a month I spend on other streaming services in order to watch my football team. It is bonkers. The model is reaching its breaking point. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, Mango said: It isn't even a loss, right? Like sports leagues are not in the red because of it, they are just not making an additional $28B split between networks, streamers, advertisers, teams, and salary caps, right? I would think once you break down all the parties that that $28B goes to, the loss in profit is fairly negligible. The cost for consumption is getting way too high. We have gone from basically free with an antenna, to heading to the bowling ally for $2 beers during blackout games, to needing to spend $100 per month on a streaming service on top of the $100 a month I spend on other streaming services in order to watch my football team. It is bonkers. The model is reaching its breaking point. yep, and wait till tickets prices come out for new stadium 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: The NFL is ridiculous to watch games. I haven’t had cable in a couple years and I tried to do it the “right way” by paying and it’s insanely difficult without getting roped into long term contracts that tend to get obnoxious at the end. If I was local I’d be satisfied to watch buffalo games and sit out the rest or catch up on social media to the rest of the league. Mostly anything free that is going to show illegal streams is hardly watchable between the quality being bad, the streams being shut down and buffering. I would love to see one of these executives tune into a free illegal stream, they’d probably laugh after 2-3 minutes and let it go. As for some paid services, I’ve had great luck when they’re working. Always the risk it just magically disappears though. I cut the cord on a ton but not everything this summer. I use Kodi with a VPN and a scraper on my firestick. For movies, shows, etc. it works just as well as any other streaming service. I have run into issues in past attempts but for the most part for some of the later game stuff I wanted to watch out of market it was pretty solid. I got through the recent World Cup with almost zero issues. The feed was great with minimal/no buffering. It is getting a lot better. I would be curious how a Bills game goes these days, but I don't want to chance it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 43 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: How many games are on peacock throughout the season homie? Sunday ticket has always been $$$. Do you really expect to get that for free? I’ve been paying for it for years… I’m more annoyed about the nuisance of 6 different platforms to watch a full season. give me a one stop shop already. 2 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Here's the thing about black markets: They fill the needs that the legitimate markets don't. That's why they're literally impossible to shut down. You're right, stealing IS wrong. But until they wise up, it's gonna keep happening. Does the price of a nice tenderloin excuse shoplifting? Sorry, I know many don’t like that line of thinking, despite knowing it’s true. Not judging. I’m just a rule follower in general. I get that people will always skirt around the edges for an advantage. That’s life. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 59 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Think they'll sell a gulfstream or two? Message me for them links!!🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mango said: It isn't even a loss, right? Like sports leagues are not in the red because of it, they are just not making an additional $28B split between networks, streamers, advertisers, teams, and salary caps, right? I would think once you break down all the parties that that $28B goes to, the loss in profit is fairly negligible. The cost for consumption is getting way too high. We have gone from basically free with an antenna, to heading to the bowling ally for $2 beers during blackout games, to needing to spend $100 per month on a streaming service on top of the $100 a month I spend on other streaming services in order to watch my football team. It is bonkers. The model is reaching its breaking point. While I agree, I do put some blame on the people too. This only really happened due to people cutting the cord for cable. People originally went to streaming to save money. Now depending on how many you have it's costing the same as cable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) Eyestream TV Edited September 1, 2023 by Draconator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Message me for them links!!🤣 If you do have any sports betting apps, most offer streams for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, Jrb1979 said: If you do have any sports betting apps, most offer streams for free. i do . I've never seen that offer. Which ones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Honestly, I tried for over a decade to give them money for Sunday Ticket and they were always like, "no, sorry, it's not available in your area." So... illegal streams it was for me. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, JerseyBills said: i do . I've never seen that offer. Which ones I believe Bet365 and FanDuel offers streams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 $300+ to watch a season is stupid. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Virgil said: $300+ to watch a season is stupid. So glad I'm able to watch all NFL games on Dazn in Canada for $25 a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, Augie said: Does the price of a nice tenderloin excuse shoplifting? Sorry, I know many don’t like that line of thinking, despite knowing it’s true. Not judging. I’m just a rule follower in general. I get that people will always skirt around the edges for an advantage. That’s life. I don't like it because it's squeezing fans who I guarantee already spend $$on NFL products and are just trying to save a buck There have got to be other folks parasitizing the league that they could go after first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 49 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Oops. I got sidetracked. If I was the NFL, I would also do everything possible to shutdown pirated streams. I pay to watch games on Amazon, Peacock, and ESPN. So should all the thiefs. Have you ever driven over the posted speed limit? That's illegal too. If they want to play whack-a-mole have at it... these sites have been around for decades. I can only speak for myself and maybe a dozen other people I know but I'll/we'll watch them however we see fit and if that means an out of the country website so be it. $12 beers should be illegal too lol 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 They'll never win. They should have learned their lesson from the record labels. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Meanwhile lets put games on 3 different subscription services as the season goes on. Why yes, that's exactly the point. You aren't giving them every last cent. This year the Bills are likely going to be on a channel I can watch 13-14 times this year. I'm not spending $300+ just to be able to watch the 3 or 4 games that won't be on local Boston TV. Speaking of being money-grubbing pr*cks, season ticket holders (me) used to get free NFL+ in time to watch the preseason games. This year they waited unto after preseason to offer us a generous 40% off!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, MPL said: Honestly, I tried for over a decade to give them money for Sunday Ticket and they were always like, "no, sorry, it's not available in your area." So... illegal streams it was for me. And now that Buffalo is in the top portion of the league they’re getting a bunch of prime time games which of course are not on the ticket lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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