Niagara Bill Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: Phillips started the season playing like a wrecking ball, but that hamstring pull seemed to hold him back all year. I thought new era said no diggs!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Couldn't resist...A2D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: I thought new era said no diggs!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Couldn't resist...A2D I'll see myself out 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, MasterStrategist said: If we ran a 3-4, sure...when is the last time we ran 5 DL personell? I'd say our best pass rushing grouping, is what @NewEraalready said. Not as a base package. A pressure package with your top 3 DE's and arguably top 2 DT's 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: I'd rather Jordan Phillips than Ed to be honest Well thankfully we have some good players to rotate with DaQuan or Poona can line up with either Oliver or Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Allen2Diggs said: Phillips started the season playing like a wrecking ball, but that hamstring pull seemed to hold him back all year. Shoulder too. Dude couldn't put his arm out straight. Looked bordering on dislocating. As a 1 armed man, how tf you gunna push 300lb brick walls around like that? U aint 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 hours ago, MasterStrategist said: If we ran a 3-4, sure...when is the last time we ran 5 DL personell? I'd say our best pass rushing grouping, is what @NewEraalready said. It looks to me like we have the makings of a consistent steady pass rush all game while still being able to sub guys in and out It’s gonna be interesting because I think McDermott is going to be way more aggressive 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: It looks to me like we have the makings of a consistent steady pass rush all game while still being able to sub guys in and out It’s gonna be interesting because I think McDermott is going to be way more aggressive I think when it comes to the pass rush McDermott won't be afraid to be as aggressive as he needs to be. I still see him wanting to get pressure with 4 and drop 7. From there I think he brings a 5th rusher at times with some strategy. However, unlike Frazier, I believe that if he sees pressure isn't getting there with 4 he will adjust and get pressure another way. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/8/2023 at 6:08 PM, Prospector said: I’m just going to down vote any weirdo who keeps talking about Diggs in this thread… I would have down voted this post also, except I’m going to say L. Floyd FTW!!! So now we are back on topic. page 28 got a lot of down thumbs. maybe some mod may be able to give warnings to people for taking this off topic What the hell is a down vote? Is it one of those reactions? Does any grown man here give a rats butt about those things? My god. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 @3rdand12 💩 🤣 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, boyst said: What the hell is a down vote? Is it one of those reactions? Does any grown man here give a rats butt about those things? My god. I down voted this comment 😊 LOL when we get pages discussing something completely off subject in a thread it can be a bit irritating. I come back to the Floyd OP to read Floyd stuff. 2 minutes ago, boyst said: @3rdand12 💩 🤣 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I down voted this comment 😊 LOL when we get pages discussing something completely off subject in a thread it can be a bit irritating. I come back to the Floyd OP to read Floyd stuff. 👍 @Coach TuesdayT @BuffaloBillyG I DOWN VOTE YOU! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 4 hours ago, boyst said: What the hell is a down vote? Is it one of those reactions? Does any grown man here give a rats butt about those things? My god. You got 4 of them. That should clear that up for you. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Prospector said: You got 4 of them. That should clear that up for you. That's a dislike. But, it's still to the point. Who cares? We ain't all gonna disagree and think alike. If we did that then we would just be... Wait can't go there. Crud. The best jokes are so inappropriate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Can Floyd play either side ? Does he favor rushing from the Miller side or the Greg R side. read he can drop into zone a bit which is cool with his length and height ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Can Floyd play either side ? Does he favor rushing from the Miller side or the Greg R side. read he can drop into zone a bit which is cool with his length and height ! All 3 of them seem to prefer to rush against the right side of the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: All 3 of them seem to prefer to rush against the right side of the line. I thought Greg lined up over the left Tackle mostly. But thats mostly in deference to Miller I suppose. Once Miller is one the field again , what do expect the rotations will look like ? Is Floyd going to be the Pass rusher or play early downs as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: I thought Greg lined up over the left Tackle mostly. But thats mostly in deference to Miller I suppose. Once Miller is one the field again , what do expect the rotations will look like ? Is Floyd going to be the Pass rusher or play early downs as well ? Rousseau lines up over the RT. Miller always preferred that side but played over the LT last year and he's so good it really doesn't matter. Floyd isn't quite the pass rusher that Miller is so I'm sure they'd prefer to get him some rushes against RT's. But I am thinking a "young" line of Rousseau-Poona-Oliver-Epenesa and an "old" line of Floyd-Jones-Phillips-Miller. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Not sure why i felt that Rousseau lined up like Hughes used to lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyab1974 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Hmmmm okay. So he is really good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Rousseau lines up over the RT. Miller always preferred that side but played over the LT last year and he's so good it really doesn't matter. Floyd isn't quite the pass rusher that Miller is so I'm sure they'd prefer to get him some rushes against RT's. But I am thinking a "young" line of Rousseau-Poona-Oliver-Epenesa and an "old" line of Floyd-Jones-Phillips-Miller. I dont know. Healthy its Rousseasu Oliver Jones Miller Floyd Phillips Ford Epenesa Pass Rush package Miller Oliver Rousseasu Floyd I think the rotation is improved. McDermott's simulated and actual blitzes makes these matchups difficult. The addition of Floyd makes it easier to put Miller on Ir or pup. I think he might actually for the teams hand and start the season. This allows to use him as situational pass rusher. Floyd is as good or better a run defender but an upgrade on rushing over everyone below him on the roster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Rousseau lines up over the RT. Miller always preferred that side but played over the LT last year and he's so good it really doesn't matter. Floyd isn't quite the pass rusher that Miller is so I'm sure they'd prefer to get him some rushes against RT's. But I am thinking a "young" line of Rousseau-Poona-Oliver-Epenesa and an "old" line of Floyd-Jones-Phillips-Miller. Most top notch rushers line over the RT now the differences are there but more nuances The most success over right tackles… Is usually speed to power… that’s why von is so good … His best Rush move … Is his speed rush to Power bullrush… speed to power Most success over left tackles is power to speed since they already move well … Bulrush to dip and rip Obviously Von can do both but a lot of players struggle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Most top notch rushers line over the RT now the differences are there but more nuances The most success over right tackles… Is usually speed to power… that’s why von is so good … His best Rush move … Is his speed rush to Power bullrush… speed to power Most success over left tackles is power to speed since they already move well … Bulrush to dip and rip Obviously Von can do both but a lot of players struggle Yeah and wrt to power to speed........I am probably a bit more optimistic about Epenesa than most because I am expecting that he will be a more powerful RDE this season after another offseason in the pass rusher body he was asked to transform into. I am glad they've hedged their bets significantly but expecting better from him this season either way. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah and wrt to power to speed........I am probably a bit more optimistic about Epenesa than most because I am expecting that he will be a more powerful RDE this season after another offseason in the pass rusher body he was asked to transform into. I am glad they've hedged their bets significantly but expecting better from him this season either way. He definitely does have a bullrush and the ability for a power to speed rush … and his length 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah and wrt to power to speed........I am probably a bit more optimistic about Epenesa than most because I am expecting that he will be a more powerful RDE this season after another offseason in the pass rusher body he was asked to transform into. I am glad they've hedged their bets significantly but expecting better from him this season either way. Agree, man that sucker shows flashes, really want to see hime piece it together this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Who would you rather have on the Buffalo Bills for this SB run. Leonard Floyd or Frank Clark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 10 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah and wrt to power to speed........I am probably a bit more optimistic about Epenesa than most because I am expecting that he will be a more powerful RDE this season after another offseason in the pass rusher body he was asked to transform into. I am glad they've hedged their bets significantly but expecting better from him this season either way. If you ignore the first year (which given what they asked of him wouldn't be unreasonable) AJE has been on a pretty decent improvement arc. Not to say he as yet has justified his draft slot.... but he is still someone whose best football could still be ahead of him I think. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: If you ignore the first year (which given what they asked of him wouldn't be unreasonable) AJE has been on a pretty decent improvement arc. Not to say he as yet has justified his draft slot.... but he is still someone whose best football could still be ahead of him I think. Ideally, I would like to keep Epenesa and trade boogie Basham But now that we have two legitimate pass rushers on board. We also need to think about the future and what the Situation is going to be for that I would actually like to see floud stay around for a while Edited June 12, 2023 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 53 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Ideally, I would like to keep Epenesa and trade boogie Basham But now that we have two legitimate pass rushers on board. We also need to think about the future and what the Situation is going to be for that I would actually like to see floud stay around for a while Epenesa to me is someone I think Beane will regret trading low. He has some natural rush ability that could translate into 10+ sacks with more opportunity. Could be some teams Jerry Hughes if you get what I’m saying. Traded to a team that actually plays him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Big Blitz said: He's bulked up quite a bit since last season. He actually looks like a DE now. I'm excited to see how he plays this year. I think he has a pretty good year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 The Bills should think about signing the security guard at the Canadian Open. The tackle he made on the guy squirting the champagne was textbook. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 9 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Who would you rather have on the Buffalo Bills for this SB run. Leonard Floyd or Frank Clark? Floyd 💯 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Epenesa to me is someone I think Beane will regret trading low. He has some natural rush ability that could translate into 10+ sacks with more opportunity. Could be some teams Jerry Hughes if you get what I’m saying. Traded to a team that actually plays him. If he wasn't out of position so much he'd play more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 This was really such a great signing. Well done Beane! I'm still hoping (as unlikely as it is) that we can add another Edge Justin Houston may be realistic as he has signed deals for 2 and 3 million previously. That would be such a dynamic group of 4. Every down you have multiple legit threats on the edge. Von Floyd Rousseau __________ (Ingram, Ngakoue, Houston, Quinn, Clowney) Shaq Epenesa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This was really such a great signing. Well done Beane! I'm still hoping (as unlikely as it is) that we can add another Edge Justin Houston may be realistic as he has signed deals for 2 and 3 million previously. That would be such a dynamic group of 4. Every down you have multiple legit threats on the edge. Von Floyd Rousseau __________ (Ingram, Ngakoue, Houston, Quinn, Clowney) Shaq Epenesa The next addition (if in order of roster priority) really ought to be a veteran outside receiver (perhaps after cuts). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, NickelCity said: The next addition (if in order of roster priority) really ought to be a veteran outside receiver (perhaps after cuts). That would be a great surprise....IF it's a starting caliber player who is an immediate WR2 over Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, That's No Moon said: If he wasn't out of position so much he'd play more. Definitely true his lane discipline in the run game has kept him off the field at times. He was better at that in 2022 though. Wasn't just his pass rush that ticked up. I think he may be what he is... a rotational rusher not an every down player... but he may still have more to come. Edited June 12, 2023 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: That would be a great surprise....IF it's a starting caliber player who is an immediate WR2 over Davis I would be happy with outside depth as well - I'm not sure they have to be a clear cut starter in front of Gabe. I have no expectations of a WR like that joining the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This was really such a great signing. Well done Beane! I'm still hoping (as unlikely as it is) that we can add another Edge Justin Houston may be realistic as he has signed deals for 2 and 3 million previously. That would be such a dynamic group of 4. Every down you have multiple legit threats on the edge. Von Floyd Rousseau __________ (Ingram, Ngakoue, Houston, Quinn, Clowney) Shaq Epenesa Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 14 hours ago, NewEra said: Lol. Thanks for your contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 6/10/2023 at 5:34 PM, Prospector said: You got 4 of them. That should clear that up for you. Well MISSter prospector - I guess your downvotes didn't work? Diggs is a no show like we told you. My sources telling me "he is done". This comes from an NHL agent/lawyer who knows Stef's agent very well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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