JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 From Oak Hill in Pittsford, site of the PGA Championship this week, Josh and Von talk golf, football, and Bills Mafia https://www.nbcsports.com/video/josh-allen-von-miller-rep-buffalo-bills-2023-pga-championship 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaldimandBills Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Great ambassadors for the Buffalo Bills. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 IF Von can play golf NOW? HE should be good to go with his knee week 1. Seriously. 5/17/23 you are cleared for golf. week one is 9/11/23 That is 4 months from now. about. He did not have as severe of an injury Tre had. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: IF Von can play golf NOW? HE should be good to go with his knee week 1. Seriously. 5/17/23 you are cleared for golf. week one is 9/11/23 That is 4 months from now. about. He did not have as severe of an injury Tre had. Do you want him to play week 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: IF Von can play golf NOW? HE should be good to go with his knee week 1. Seriously. 5/17/23 you are cleared for golf. week one is 9/11/23 That is 4 months from now. about. He did not have as severe of an injury Tre had. Ummm...I think being able to play amateur golf is a little different than playing NFL football, no? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, Ned Flanders said: Ummm...I think being able to play amateur golf is a little different than playing NFL football, no? OH i agree. I never said he should be ready this week. but if he is up and able to do things like this now? 4 months from now I would think the dude should be good to go. 7 minutes ago, NewEra said: Do you want him to play week 1? IF he is 100% yes. and do I think he should be 100% by week 1 based on his progression thus far? yes! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonInBuffalo Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: IF Von can play golf NOW? HE should be good to go with his knee week 1. Seriously. 5/17/23 you are cleared for golf. week one is 9/11/23 That is 4 months from now. about. He did not have as severe of an injury Tre had. A friend of mine that I golfed with regularly hurt his knee playing indoor soccer - apparently some sort of ACL injury. The doctor told him if he wanted to play soccer again he would need surgery. Since he could still walk pain free (including golfing) he decided to pass on surgery/soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ned Flanders said: Ummm...I think being able to play amateur golf is a little different than playing NFL football, no? The fella that played The Waterboy also played Happy Gilmore. It's basically the same thing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, DonInBuffalo said: A friend of mine that I golfed with regularly hurt his knee playing indoor soccer - apparently some sort of ACL injury. The doctor told him if he wanted to play soccer again he would need surgery. Since he could still walk pain free (including golfing) he decided to pass on surgery/soccer. not sure how this has any bearing on what I said but yea I get it. sometimes surgery is not the right decision in one's life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, NewEra said: Do you want him to play week 1? and by the way.. just to give an example, Tre White was never able to do the things Von did with the same time line. This is why I expect 4 months of good strong rehab to be more than enough to be ready by week 1-3 instead of week 4-6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: and by the way.. just to give an example, Tre White was never able to do the things Von did with the same time line. This is why I expect 4 months of good strong rehab to be more than enough to be ready by week 1-3 instead of week 4-6 We will make the playoffs without him. Why not give him until the back half of the year? We only get one shot at this and we have already showed we can be a regular season champion without him. We don't need him until the playoffs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Great interview. I think Von is a freak, but I have zero appetite to rush him back. Our schedule sets up nicely with a relatively "easy" start compared to the rest of our juggernaut schedule, but I'd feel a lot better if we signed one of these FA pass rushers to get after Rodgers, Tua and Lawrence if we target the Giants game to bring him back (provided he's ready). I say Giants, because if he's not ready Week 1, I don't think we bring him back for the Raiders or Commanders. Dolphins potentially, but do they want him making the trip to London? If not, the Giants game seems like an obvious candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: OH i agree. I never said he should be ready this week. but if he is up and able to do things like this now? 4 months from now I would think the dude should be good to go. IF he is 100% yes. and do I think he should be 100% by week 1 based on his progression thus far? yes! What do you know about his progression? 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: and by the way.. just to give an example, Tre White was never able to do the things Von did with the same time line. This is why I expect 4 months of good strong rehab to be more than enough to be ready by week 1-3 instead of week 4-6 I don’t think you have a clue. No offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: What do you know about his progression? I don’t think you have a clue. No offense I think you are speaking of specifics when i am speaking of generalizations. White would not of been able to play armature golf 4 months before he came back to his first game. Of course I do not know specifics. No one does but him and his DR. Everything I am saying I am guestimating. has anything I have said been posted as fact? Come on man.. lighten up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, PrimeTime101 said: I think you are speaking of specifics when i am speaking of generalizations. White would not of been able to play armature golf 4 months before he came back to his first game. Of course I do not know specifics. No one does but him and his DR. Everything I am saying I am guestimating. has anything I have said been posted as fact? Come on man.. lighten up.. i just find it odd to “based on his progressions so far”….. what progressions? He’s working out and playing golf? tre’s injury has nothing to do with Vons injury. I don’t know why it’s even being discussed. i think Von making it trough an entire 17 game season AND being healthy come playoffs is pushing it. We got him for one reason. To win playoff games. We were gifted a soft spot of our schedule to open the season. We should take advantage off it and shorten his season by limiting his opportunity to get injured again. jmo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, NewEra said: i just find it odd to “based on his progressions so far”….. what progressions? He’s working out and playing golf? tre’s injury has nothing to do with Vons injury. I don’t know why it’s even being discussed. i think Von making it trough an entire 17 game season AND being healthy come playoffs is pushing it. We got him for one reason. To win playoff games. We were gifted a soft spot of our schedule to open the season. We should take advantage off it and shorten his season by limiting his opportunity to get injured again. jmo Listen ok? I already stated that Tre's injury was much worse. Put this in perspective... 4 months before Tre' played his first game back with buffalo... he would NOT of been able to play golf.. Period... Now fast forward to Von, and he does not have it as bad as Tre' did.. And he able to do more things 4 months out before the first game of the season then Tre did... That was my point of comparing progression.. You took this whole thing way to serious man... I was just talking to talk of MY PERSONAL opinion of where I seem to think Von is at.. I could be wrong... I could be right.. Again No one knows when Von will 100% be sure to play.. Relax man.. Jesus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Even with the opener Week 1 at the Jets, I’d be happy with the team IRing Von for the 1st 6 weeks. It’s the ‘softest’ part of our schedule and he was brought here to help close it at seasons end. Not a lot of good his many sacks last year provided, when the Defense was a sieve by the playoffs.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Listen ok? I already stated that Tre's injury was much worse. Put this in perspective... 4 months before Tre' played his first game back with buffalo... he would NOT of been able to play golf.. Period... Now fast forward to Von, and he does not have it as bad as Tre' did.. And he able to do more things 4 months out before the first game of the season then Tre did... That was my point of comparing progression.. You took this whole thing way to serious man... I was just talking to talk of MY PERSONAL opinion of where I seem to think Von is at.. I could be wrong... I could be right.. Again No one knows when Von will 100% be sure to play.. Relax man.. Jesus... I listened. I still feel the same. jesus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 7 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: IF Von can play golf NOW? HE should be good to go with his knee week 1. Seriously. 5/17/23 you are cleared for golf. week one is 9/11/23 That is 4 months from now. about. He did not have as severe of an injury Tre had. Von said he was cleared for golf two months ago...football different story...we want him healed and as close to 100% to last the season and playoffs moreso than opening game and September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Any hot bartenders in Pittsford?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Gugny said: Any hot bartenders in Pittsford?? You want nothing to do with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, First Round Bust said: Von said he was cleared for golf two months ago...football different story...we want him healed and as close to 100% to last the season and playoffs moreso than opening game and September heh 2 months ago? even better yet. I get ya about the playoffs but we have some tough games this year and we need him in some of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 I like that they have fun distractions like golf. Slow roll Von and let him stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 3 hours ago, First Round Bust said: Von said he was cleared for golf two months ago...football different story...we want him healed and as close to 100% to last the season and playoffs moreso than opening game and September I am sure that they will choose the best path for Vons return and I could see them holding him back if there's any risk. Also Von is pretty motivated on rehabbing properly and seems to keep himself in shape. I don't think Vons ever shown up to any training camp out of shape like we have seen Dion Dawkins showing up out of shape. Now that Allen is gonna be a qb first it be nice if Dion comes in to camp in proper shape for a dominant year of play. At least in Browns case the physical limitations were due to recovering from back surgery not lack of discipline in getting in shape before camp like Dion came in last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 “I have vivid dreams about that parade” is the coolest thing Josh has ever said. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Awesome stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 hour ago, stevestojan said: “I have vivid dreams about that parade” is the coolest thing Josh will ever do. FTFY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 12 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: IF Von can play golf NOW? HE should be good to go with his knee week 1. Seriously. 5/17/23 you are cleared for golf. week one is 9/11/23 That is 4 months from now. about. He did not have as severe of an injury Tre had. I have no idea how the joint strength and stability to play a non-contact sport like golf maps onto a timeline for developing the joint strength and stability needed to make it through a football season. I don't think you do either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 32 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I have no idea how the joint strength and stability to play a non-contact sport like golf maps onto a timeline for developing the joint strength and stability needed to make it through a football season. I don't think you do either of course not. I am making assumptions based on others that have had the same or worse injuries. i get your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 13 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: IF Von can play golf NOW? HE should be good to go with his knee week 1. Seriously. 5/17/23 you are cleared for golf. week one is 9/11/23 That is 4 months from now. about. He did not have as severe of an injury Tre had. I bet you were one of the people to say that if AB could do jumping jacks as he quit midgame, then he wasn't too injured to play football. Despite every actual doctor disagreeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: I bet you were one of the people to say that if AB could do jumping jacks as he quit midgame, then he wasn't too injured to play football. Despite every actual doctor disagreeing. uh no.. but thanks for coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: I bet you were one of the people to say that if AB could do jumping jacks as he quit midgame, then he wasn't too injured to play football. Despite every actual doctor disagreeing. I don't disagree he might have been hurt, but using AB as a reference is probably not the best example. Edited May 19, 2023 by The Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: I have no idea how the joint strength and stability to play a non-contact sport like golf maps onto a timeline for developing the joint strength and stability needed to make it through a football season. I don't think you do either It differs from person to person. Depends on an individuals natural joint flexibility and how they developed as the grew up. DId he take any dance lessons? Might sound funny but good dancing footwork would translate well for football players. Did Von participate in any gymnastics as a young kid? Gymnasts are often very flexible. I still remember when Olga Korbut did her final balance beam routine for the gold in 76 summer Olympics. If you watch it on YouTube around the 50 sec mark of her routine when she does the backbend and basically folds her body over her neck. Any of us try that without the developed flexibility we end up dead with a broken neck or paralyzed. If any young kids are allowed to play football even with the known health problems they can develop from concussions and other injuries they would benefit from gymnastics, or even yoga is a popular training athlete do for added flexibility. So how each person has developed in any injured areas will determine how they bounce back from those injuries as well. Edited May 19, 2023 by AuntieEm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 20 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: and by the way.. just to give an example, Tre White was never able to do the things Von did with the same time line. This is why I expect 4 months of good strong rehab to be more than enough to be ready by week 1-3 instead of week 4-6 Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night or something? 🙄 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 5/18/2023 at 7:51 AM, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: From Oak Hill in Pittsford, site of the PGA Championship this week, Josh and Von talk golf, football, and Bills Mafia https://www.nbcsports.com/video/josh-allen-von-miller-rep-buffalo-bills-2023-pga-championship I liked the Dareus pick but I was really hoping for Von Miller to be a Bill for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 5/18/2023 at 11:10 AM, PrimeTime101 said: and by the way.. just to give an example, Tre White was never able to do the things Von did with the same time line. This is why I expect 4 months of good strong rehab to be more than enough to be ready by week 1-3 instead of week 4-6 Do you know that's the case though? Also, do you know tre wasn't cleared for golf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Interesting to hear Tiger Woods is Josh's all-time fave athlete... Thanks for the video! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/18/2023 at 5:19 PM, Gugny said: Any hot bartenders in Pittsford?? Hey, Rory McElroy met his wife in Pittsford at the PGA Champ 10 years ago. Why not Josh?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/18/2023 at 10:20 AM, NewEra said: Do you want him to play week 1? If he's cleared, absolutely. Guy is 33 and signed a big contract. His value is in his availability at this point. There's not a lot of time to squeeze that value out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/18/2023 at 11:19 PM, Gugny said: Any hot bartenders in Pittsford?? Depends on how much you drink I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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