Matt Araiza

[1ManRaid]

15 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

As hard as it is to believe, I witnessed this behavior first hand multiple times at frat parties in undergrad (granted this was the 90s/00s). Every guy with half a brain steered clear of these girls.

 

You don't stick your dick in crazy.  My older brother did plenty enough of that for me to learn his lesson.

[Fan in Chicago]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I feel terrible for the kid.  Its every kids dream to play pro sports and his was ripped away over something false.

 

 

I really hope he lands somewhere and dominates at his position.  

Agreed. 

 

I am really bristling with anger at the injustice towards Araiza. That girl and the lawyer both should pay for going after Araiza just as soon as it became evident he would have money in his pocket. Scum of the earth!

[Bferra13]

58 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I heard more than a few people saying that he should sue the Bills/NFL.  He's got no case against them.

Do you know employment laws well enough to claim he has no case against them? I don't. But innocent until proven guilty in America. And he was let go for something he most likely didn't do. Would seem to me he'd have a pretty low bar to clear to have a case. But again, I'm not a lawyer.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I feel terrible for the kid.  Its every kids dream to play pro sports and his was ripped away over something false.

 

He should be able to land in camp somewhere.  He needs to be given the chance that was taken away.

 

If the Bills hadn’t extended our punter (I honestly don’t know his name off the top of my head because he’s a punter without a cool nickname), I would say it would be the right thing to do to sign him back.

 

 I really hope he lands somewhere and dominates at his position.  

 

Except in the AFCE, KC or Cincinnati. I have limits. 

 

😋

[BillsFanForever19]

The rule that you can't go on an exempt list as a Rookie before you played really annoyed me.

 

He should have been able to be exempt until everything came to light.

 

And since he's been cleared, we could have had him and Martin in Camp this year. Now he'll get a chance to be Punt God on another team when he should have been our Punt God

[UmbrellaMan]

His only punt with the team

 

 

[Fan in Chicago]

Sorry if anyone has linked this thread earlier but if not, here it is. Lets see who amongst us rushed to judgment:

 

[1ManRaid]

2 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

Do you know employment laws well enough to claim he has no case against them? I don't. But innocent until proven guilty in America. And he was let go for something he most likely didn't do. Would seem to me he'd have a pretty low bar to clear to have a case. But again, I'm not a lawyer.

 

Teams can cut players at will, per their contracts.  He could have signed with any other team unless he was put on "the list" by the league, which is outside of the Bills control.

Would be nice to sign him the the PS.

[Steptide]

Sign him back to the roster I say. Seriously. We only saw a snippet of him, but looked like he had lots of potential 

[Bferra13]

Just now, 1ManRaid said:

 

Teams can cut players at will, per their contracts.  He could have signed with any other team unless he was put on "the list" by the league, which is outside of the Bills control.

Good stuff. Makes sense that the NFL plays by different rules due to the CBA. Thanks!

[Royale with Cheese]

5 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Agreed. 

 

I am really bristling with anger at the injustice towards Araiza. That girl and the lawyer both should pay for going after Araiza just as soon as it became evident he would have money in his pocket. Scum of the earth!

 

That Lawyer is Saul Goodman in real life.  It's great for a drama, this guy was a straight trash going public with the accusations.  There are a lot of good Attorneys out there and this is one of those guys that gives them all a bad name.

5 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Except in the AFCE, KC or Cincinnati. I have limits. 

 

😋

 

It's a punter.  I would be worried about a FG kicker and every other position.  

[Snappysnackcakes]

Makes me sick to my damned stomach. People will absolutely try to (and succeed) ruin someone’s life. The media piles on, the Shame Police piles on, the whole woke nonsense piles on. It’s ruthless, it’s wrong, and this poor kid (Araiza) is just another of many victims, not the emotionally unstable child (with crappy parents, evidently) who just ran roughshod over Araiza. 

[TheBrownBear]

22 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

So yes, what you say is true, however, rape does happen on these campuses and in these frat houses
 

Mostly goes unreported

 

As the evidence comes out, I hope that he can get his career back

Of course it does. And I'm not trying to play blame the victim or imply that women aren't often the victims of sexual violence from men.  Just sharing an anecdote.

[Steptide]

Just now, Snappysnackcakes said:

Makes me sick to my damned stomach. People will absolutely try to (and succeed) ruin someone’s life. The media piles on, the Shame Police piles on, the whole woke nonsense piles on. It’s ruthless, it’s wrong, and this poor kid (Araiza) is just another of many victims, not the emotionally unstable child (with crappy parents, evidently) who just ran roughshod over Araiza. 

Yup

The reaction of bills fans last year when this came out was waaaay overboard. Never even had a chance to prove his innocence 

[Snappysnackcakes]

Beane should reach out and try to make amends. I’d imagine this is why he and coach were so drained by the whole experience. They (probably/likely) knew it was all BS but their hands were tied. You can’t come out and declare your support for an accused rapist who hasn’t yet been vindicated. Ask Michael Irvin. 

[aristocrat]

34 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

Interestingly, the “victim’s” lawyer who decided to act as judge, jury and executioner on Twitter has gone very quiet….

 

https://twitter.com/dangilleon

 

it's interesting he mentions the graphic video showed to them which was so awful cause it apparently showed her consenting. 

[BigAl2526]

A couple of thoughts.  I can't imagine why Buffalo wouldn't consider giving his agent a call and at least offering him a contract.  Whether or not he is interested in signing again with the team that cut him is another issue.  Second thought:  If I were Araiza, I would be looking at what legal recourse I would have to hold the girl accountable.  Not only did her lie cost him a possible year with an NFL salary, and maybe more, but her lie makes it harder on other young girls that do get raped. It's a small think but the more girls get caught in lies, the easier it is for the attorneys of future defendants to sow seeds of doubt in the minds of jurors.  Next time the accused might be guilty.  

[K-9]

3 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Yup

The reaction of bills fans last year when this came out was waaaay overboard. Never even had a chance to prove his innocence 

It was never up to him to prove his innocence; it was up to the accuser to prove his guilt.

[eme123]

I saw this coming from 100 miles away.
 

To all the people on here that exclaimed “always believe the victim”, your thinking is doing a disgusting diservice to society. Did this court of public opinion help any future victim of rape? No! It made it that much harder for real victims to come forward. 

How about we change it to “always take the victims claim serious”. Is there something wrong with that?? Lets then help the victim with supporting evidence to back up their claim the right way. But whatever the elitist journalists and keyboard kings say is gospel nowadays. That was on full display in this situation. Disgusting

[CoudyBills]

53 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

She was underaged at a party with a lot of alcohol. You will never be able to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that she consented to every sexual act that night. Any prosecutor wouldn't even bother filing charges. In a perfect world there would be some kind of justice here, but ultimately everyone involved will just have to get on with their lives.

She should still be charged.  The trial experience would be a good lesson.

[Snappysnackcakes]

Just now, BigAl2526 said:

A couple of thoughts.  I can't imagine why Buffalo wouldn't consider giving his agent a call and at least offering him a contract.  Whether or not he is interested in signing again with the team that cut him is another issue.  Second thought:  If I were Araiza, I would be looking at what legal recourse I would have to hold the girl accountable.  Not only did her lie cost him a possible year with an NFL salary, and maybe more, but her lie makes it harder on other young girls that do get raped. It's a small think but the more girls get caught in lies, the easier it is for the attorneys of future defendants to sow seeds of doubt in the minds of jurors.  Next time the accused might be guilty.  

It’s all disgusting. You can’t hold someone who’s emotionally unstable accountable for anything. I’m waiting for case law to declare cell phone use is a recognized disability and affords kids protection in the workplace via the ADA. I’ve had kids (my way to describe someone who uses a cell phone for emotional support) have full-fledged meltdowns when I tell them to put it away and focus on work. (I’m in banking)

3 minutes ago, eme123 said:

I saw this coming from 100 miles away.
 

To all the people on here that exclaimed “always believe the victim”, your thinking is doing a disgusting diservice to society. Did this court of public opinion help any future victim of rape? No! It made it that much harder for real victims to come forward. 

How about we change it to “always take the victims claim serious”. Is there something wrong with that?? Lets then help the victim with supporting evidence to back up their claim the right way. But whatever the elitist journalists and keyboard kings say is gospel nowadays. That was on full display in this situation. Disgusting

Thank you. Exactly. 

[Process]

How does it take a year for it to become public that he wasn't even there? Insane. 

[Snappysnackcakes]

Let’s start a Go Fund Me for Matt Araiza, Bills Mafia. See how quickly that gets shut down…

 

 

[1ManRaid]

Hopefully we can find room on the practice squad and in camp for him.  Get him some paychecks until he lands on a 53.

[chongli]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

Hopefully he gets his career back at least. He'll never be a Bill, but some NFL team should give him a shot.

 

Would it make sense to bring him this preseason to compete with Martin? He would a cheaper option.

[SCBills]

15 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Yup

The reaction of bills fans last year when this came out was waaaay overboard. Never even had a chance to prove his innocence 

Bills Mafia Babes went in on Araiza during all that. 
 

Seems a lot of our Twitter mafia reps have scrubbed any Araiza slander as I search their Twitter mentions. 

 

 

Edited May 9, 2023 by SCBills

[BillsNutHawaii]

14 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Sorry if anyone has linked this thread earlier but if not, here it is. Lets see who amongst us rushed to judgment:

 

Happy to say I was absolutely on the right side of this issue, and the proof is in this thread - thanks for finding and posting.  I got absolutely blasted for it too, by some nut-job with serious mental issues - cant recall her handle / screen name.  Happy for Matt!

[aristocrat]

I would imagine since she's underage he could go after her parents and their assets in this situation right?

[Snappysnackcakes]

And Araiza should sue her parents. 

Just now, aristocrat said:

I would imagine since she's underage he could go after her parents and their assets in this situation right?

I just said the same. Yes. 

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

A couple of thoughts.  I can't imagine why Buffalo wouldn't consider giving his agent a call and at least offering him a contract.  Whether or not he is interested in signing again with the team that cut him is another issue.  Second thought:  If I were Araiza, I would be looking at what legal recourse I would have to hold the girl accountable.  Not only did her lie cost him a possible year with an NFL salary, and maybe more, but her lie makes it harder on other young girls that do get raped. It's a small think but the more girls get caught in lies, the easier it is for the attorneys of future defendants to sow seeds of doubt in the minds of jurors.  Next time the accused might be guilty.  

 

He'll definitely sue her and her lawyer.  She should get jail time as well.

 

6 minutes ago, Process said:

How does it take a year for it to become public that he wasn't even there? Insane. 

 

How long did it take for use to learn that Ed Oliver blew a 0.00 BAC at the scene of his traffic stop?

[PromoTheRobot]

Oh Twitter was on fire over Punt God. How dare the Bills draft thins scumbag?? Oh, he was innocent? Well, whatever.

[Augie]

1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said:

Hopefully we can find room on the practice squad and in camp for him.  Get him some paychecks until he lands on a 53.

 

If he’s that good, things will work out just fine for him. There are 31 other teams who can bring him on board without flack now that this is clear. He lost one year, and that sucks. It’s unfair and everyone should be held accountable, both in terms of actions that night and an investigation that lasted longer than puberty!   

[chongli]

16 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

Yes, it was. It’s over now…just ask Michael Irvin. 

 

Irvin was falsely accused of sexual assault in 1996:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Irvin

 

"Fabricated sexual assault allegation against Irvin"

 

[excerpt from wikipedia:]

"In 1996, as the Cowboys prepared to play the Carolina Panthers in the NFC Divisional Playoff game, media reports stated that Irvin and teammate Erik Williams, while under the influence of cocaine, had sexually assaulted a Dallas Cheerleader, Nina Shahravan, and, with a gun to her head, videotaped the interaction.

 

Despite Williams' and Irvin's denials of the allegations, the story largely overshadowed the game, which the Cowboys lost. The accuser was later proven to have fabricated the entire incident. She recanted her story, pled guilty to perjury and filing a false police report, and was sentenced to 90 days in jail and a fine.[16] In the game against Carolina, Irvin was injured in the opening minutes and did not return."

 

 

He overcame this and continued a successful career with the Cowboys for three more years and then went on to a successful career in sports broadcasting. So, so can Matt Araiza, hopefully with Buffalo. 

Edited May 9, 2023 by chongli

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Oh Twitter was on fire over Punt God. How dare the Bills draft thins scumbag?? Oh, he was innocent? Well, whatever.

You can’t even find their slanderous mentions anymore. 
 

All of the big Bills fan accounts seem to have the ability to delete tweets, but not issue a mea culpa. 

[CapeBreton]

Astonishing how many people here concluded he was guilty without knowing anything, maybe reserve judgement next time.

[JoPoy88]

7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Bills Mafia Babes went in on Araiza during all that. 
 

Seems a lot of our Twitter mafia reps have scrubbed any Araiza slander as I search their Twitter mentions. 

 

 

besides the accuser herself, yeah those BMB women should be the first to say something publicly. Hard to expect an actual apology, but maybe an acknowledgment? I wouldn’t hold my breath though.

[chongli]

 

 

10 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

I would imagine since she's underage he could go after her parents and their assets in this situation right?

 

10 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

And Araiza should sue her parents. 

I just said the same. Yes. 

 

Most likely her parents have homeowner's insurance, which would cover this (I think).

[JoPoy88]

Is this full 200 page transcript floating around somewhere, or was it just leaked to press and the reporters pulled details? 

[chongli]

8 minutes ago, CapeBreton said:

Astonishing how many people here concluded he was guilty without knowing anything, maybe reserve judgement next time.

 

I am not sure if anybody here on TBD accused him. I wasn't, buy many were going by an allegation that he admitted having sex with her, which is, by definition, statutory rape in California. I am still angry we let him go. It won't happen, but the fair thing would be for the NFL to award us a 5th 4th round comp pick in 2024.

Edited May 9, 2023 by chongli

[Doc]

1 minute ago, chongli said:

I am not sure if anybody here on TBD accused him. I wasn't, buy many were going by an allegation that he admitted having sex with her, which is, by definition, statutory rape in California. I am still angry we let him go.

 

Yeah, no, more than a few accused him of being guilty.