Day 2 LIVE NFL DRAFT, 7pm

[Meatloaf63]

2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

If you google a players name and “scouting report”, they are often one of the top results. They scout every player (or nearly every player).

Does that mean they are good at it? 

[LEBills]

3 minutes ago, daz28 said:

They are small too

lol I don’t really understand the point you are trying to make. Henley and Simpson are also small but better players that were reasonable to draft in the third. Overshown and Williams are also small and their skills would have been reasonable in the 5th round. but that is just my opinion from what I do pre-draft. I hope I am wrong and he is awesome

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:

Does that mean they are good at it? 

Good at googling someone?

 

I dunno but it's better than yahoo.

[daz28]

5 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

None. We already have a questionable 3rd round lb from last year. Would have gone for a 1 tech or more OL and not duplicate last year's miss.

But your team needed one badly.  Would you have been happy with any of the other ILB's drafted shortly before Dorian?

[JerseyBills]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

If you google a players name and “scouting report”, they are often one of the top results. They scout every player (or nearly every player).

Regardless,  I'm trusting the instincts of Beane and Co who live and breathe scouting.  

For Beane to go ilb for 2 straight years w a top 100 pick, makes me like this pick even more.  

Best believe he's well in tuned with the criticism he'll face if neither develop into a starter

[daz28]

3 minutes ago, LEBills said:

lol I don’t really understand the point you are trying to make. Henley and Simpson are also small but better players that were reasonable to draft in the third. Overshown and Williams are also small and their skills would have been reasonable in the 5th round. but that is just my opinion from what I do pre-draft. I hope I am wrong and he is awesome

No that's fine.  I agree.  Most people were talking about his size, and I thought you did, too.  No other player available before or after has the 'size' everyone else is complaining about

[gobills404]

22 minutes ago, Einstein said:

Really not understanding that pick. And it looks like i’m not alone.

 

 

If those guys don’t like the pick then that gives a lot of hope Williams will be good.

[Solomon Grundy]

2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

But your team needed one badly.  Would you have been happy with any of the other ILB's drafted shortly before Dorian?

They should've been thinking about Edmunds replacement when they drafted Bernard.... oh wait 😎

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said:

They should've been thinking about Edmunds replacement when they drafted Bernard.... oh wait 😎

we really need to be drafting a year ahead and not like oh szchit we need to fill this hole

[Einstein]

9 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Regardless,  I'm trusting the instincts of Beane and Co 

 

Probably shouldn’t. He’s been a mediocre drafter.

 

Though I did love the first 2 picks this year.

[bearcat]

Don't know enough about him to know how I feel about him 

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dorian-williams/32005749-4c24-3940-708f-17c023a4d993

 

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Dorian-Williams-LB-Tulane

[JerseyBills]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Probably shouldn’t. He’s been a mediocre drafter.

 

Though I did love the first 2 picks this year.

At the end of the day he got us 3 straight divisional titles. 4 straight playoff appearances.

He picked our franchise QB and a top 3 WR through the draft process

 

I love last years draft class too. We're loaded on both sides and just got 3 day 1 starters

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Probably shouldn’t. He’s been a mediocre drafter.

 

Though I did love the first 2 picks this year.

 

Could be worse, could be doing whatever the hell Houston or Detroit did. 

[Green Lightning]

So a 6'1 224 pound slow (4.85) LB in the 3rd round last year who never saw the field to a 6'1 228 pound faster (4.45) version in the third this year.  Yeah, what's not to like? I guess 6'1 is the maximum height for Bills LBs. Should strike fear with opposition OCs who dare to run against this group. New LB coach Tyrion Lannister must be over the top happy.

10 minutes ago, bearcat said:

Don't know enough about him to know how I feel about him 

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dorian-williams/32005749-4c24-3940-708f-17c023a4d993

 

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Dorian-Williams-LB-Tulane

Projected as a day 3 pick and quality back up. Great. Looks like a complete whiff two years running. 

[The Wiz]

6 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

So a 6'1 224 pound slow (4.85) LB in the 3rd round last year who never saw the field to a 6'1 228 pound faster (4.45) version in the third this year.  Yeah, what's not to like? I guess 6'1 is the maximum height for Bills LBs. Should strike fear with opposition OCs who dare to run against this group. New LB coach Tyrion Lannister must be over the top happy.

Projected as a day 3 pick and quality back up. Great. Looks like a complete whiff two years running. 

Alright, that was worth reading your complaint 😂.

[RyanC883]

I like this pick, but WR A.T. Perry should have been the pick here, and go back into 4th if needed to get Williams, or get another guy.  I don’t love it, but don’t hate it. 

25 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

So a 6'1 224 pound slow (4.85) LB in the 3rd round last year who never saw the field to a 6'1 228 pound faster (4.45) version in the third this year.  Yeah, what's not to like? I guess 6'1 is the maximum height for Bills LBs. Should strike fear with opposition OCs who dare to run against this group. New LB coach Tyrion Lannister must be over the top happy.

Projected as a day 3 pick and quality back up. Great. Looks like a complete whiff two years running. 

 

the NFL draftbuzz article accidentally calls him Milano, so that’s good?  

[Bangarang]

35 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

At the end of the day he got us 3 straight divisional titles. 4 straight playoff appearances.

He picked our franchise QB and a top 3 WR through the draft process

 

I love last years draft class too. We're loaded on both sides and just got 3 day 1 starters

Williams shouldn’t be considered a day 1 starter at all

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

At the end of the day he got us 3 straight divisional titles. 4 straight playoff appearances.

He picked our franchise QB and a top 3 WR through the draft process

 

I love last years draft class too. We're loaded on both sides and just got 3 day 1 starters

Yeah..Elam and Cook are going to be stars in this league.

[Warriorspikes51]

AJ Klein is underrated. This pick was 100% not needed. It’s not even a “luxury” pick.

[CaptnCoke11]

3 hours ago, gobills404 said:

If those guys don’t like the pick then that gives a lot of hope Williams will be good.

Or they just didn’t watch his YouTube highlights aka “film”

[Playoffs?]

Come on, people. Let’s give the kid a chance now.  I heard that McD might move Milano to MLB, and Beane has already said that Williams will start his career on the outside.  
 

Can we at least see how he’s used before we start labeling him as a bust?

[PromoTheRobot]

9 hours ago, Meatloaf63 said:

Who gives a *****?

 

Well, It's an opinion from someone who does a very good daily Bills podcast, who is immersed in the draft and scouting, and who has a track record of reasoned assessments and not hot takes. It doesn't make him always right but when he says he likes or doesn't like someone, he has analytics and film study behind his opinions.

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, Playoffs? said:

Come on, people. Let’s give the kid a chance now.  I heard that McD might move Milano to MLB, and Beane has already said that Williams will start his career on the outside.  
 

Can we at least see how he’s used before we start labeling him as a bust?

Beane emphatically stated about a month ago that Matt Milano will not be moved. That is just a made up message board thing. 

[Playoffs?]

10 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Beane emphatically stated about a month ago that Matt Milano will not be moved. That is just a made up message board thing. 

Yeah perhaps. 
 

My source advised that this came from watching Cover 1.  I didn’t watch.
“They think McDermott is going to bring Rapp in to play more packages with dime… Milano possibly to MLB, Bernard and Williams on the outside , a little less nickel, packages where it’s tough to tell who’s coming.”

 

 

[ScorpionZero]

We should've drafted this guy

 

 

[MrEpsYtown]

25 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

Yeah perhaps. 
 

My source advised that this came from watching Cover 1.  I didn’t watch.
“They think McDermott is going to bring Rapp in to play more packages with dime… Milano possibly to MLB, Bernard and Williams on the outside , a little less nickel, packages where it’s tough to tell who’s coming.”

 

 

 

He basically said “we will keep him where he is at.” 
 

I think we will see some Rapp in nickel/dime but Milano is going to stay in the spot he has been in imo. Everyone else will move around him. It doesn’t make sense to move him from where he has excelled to accommodate lesser players….downgrading two spots in the process.

[Motorin']

2 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said:

We should've drafted this guy

 

 

 

Williams measurables beyond height and weight. He's not really a Smurf, and has the kind of frame that can easily add weight. 

 

Big hands, long arms, huge wing span, one of the fastest LB's in the league. 

 

HANDS: 10 1/4 (79%)

ARM: 33 3/4 (78%)

SPAN: 80 6/8 (93%)

FORTY: 4.49 (C) (95%)

 

 

[Playoffs?]

3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

He basically said “we will keep him where he is at.” 
 

I think we will see some Rapp in nickel/dime but Milano is going to stay in the spot he has been in imo. Everyone else will move around him. It doesn’t make sense to move him from where he has excelled to accommodate lesser players….downgrading two spots in the process.

Yep I hear ya. Just passing along info. Not saying it’s definitely happening.  Let’s just hope Williams proves the doubters wrong!

[ScorpionZero]

6 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Williams measurables beyond height and weight. He's not really a Smurf, and has the kind of frame that can easily add weight. 

 

Big hands, long arms, huge wing span, one of the fastest LB's in the league. 

 

HANDS: 10 1/4 (79%)

ARM: 33 3/4 (78%)

SPAN: 80 6/8 (93%)

FORTY: 4.49 (C) (95%)

 

 

I was just kidding, I liked his gloves.

[MrEpsYtown]

1 minute ago, Playoffs? said:

Yep I hear ya. Just passing along info. Not saying it’s definitely happening.  Let’s just hope Williams proves the doubters wrong!

I like the pick. I just don’t like what Beane said about his usage, but there is huge upside there. I love what Riddick was saying about the kid. I know we will never know, but I am super curious what their linebacker rankings looked like. 

[Pete]

Sign Andre Carter!  Make that priority 1