Rodgers Traded to Jets Officially

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

9 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

He was the QB of the Dolphins who won the game.  He beat the Bills.

Obtuse much?

Yes, he was on the field when the dolphins won.

 

Doesn't mean he contributed all that much.

 

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

I'm not sure either.  I follow the money on Spotrac pretty close and understand almost all the contracts.  Not sure about this one and that

2023 and 2024 Option Bonus's.  I was hoping for a tweet from someone would clear it up.

 

It's a weird contract. Starting next year, and going for 3 years, each year is guaranteed as long as he is playing. But it is not 3 years fully guaranteed at signing. If they cut him before Feb 2024, they'd have like a $50M dead cap hit, but get out of the other 2 $50M years.

 

 

 

[Franco_92]

46 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

True! But it was also his first year without a top WR in well ages.  So IMO part of that could have been him adapting to not having Adams to throw to.  I think most QBs struggle when losing their top WR and his best WR in GB was out a lot last year. 

This is true and the Jets could have the pieces to reinvigorate him. But it's hard to check back into something you spent a year half checked out of. And there is a lot of space between his level last year and that which Allen is capable of hitting. The Jets and Fins have taken swings they absolutely should have, but I wouldn't trade places with either of them this year let alone for the next 10

[BADOLBILZ]

5 minutes ago, Sestak4ever said:

As I stated earlier I believe the Jets gave up way too much. Short sighted on their part.

 

 

If they were in the NFC.........any of the divisions........I think the Jets would have signed Jimmy G or David Carr immediately and tried to win 49ers style.

 

Having Josh Allen in division means you gotta' swing for the fences at QB.  

 

The $60M cap hit alone impacts their timeline........they should be a $100M cap space kinda' team entering Zach Wilson's 3rd season right now.

 

Hopefully that applied pressure disrupts the Jets window before that good 2022 draft class starts demanding big contracts after the 2024 season.    

[TheFunPolice]

it makes the Jets games a lot more interesting, and generally makes for a better story, so I'm excited for it

 

Either way, to be the best you've got to beat the best, and also, either way you play 2-3 playoffs games to get to the Super Bowl. There won't be cupcakes, but you also don't have to play every good team back to back to get there. 

 

In fact, if the Bills can get the #1 seed finally then it's a bye week, play the lowest seed left and suddenly you're in the AFC Title game at home. 

Edited April 25, 2023 by TheFunPolice

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

It's a weird contract. Starting next year, and going for 3 years, each year is guaranteed as long as he is playing. But it is not 3 years fully guaranteed at signing. If they cut him before Feb 2024, they'd have like a $50M dead cap hit, but get out of the other 2 $50M years.

 

 

That's kind of how I see it but what is confusing is the cap hit vs. the cash hits to the team.  @BADOLBILZhad a post as I was typing mine

which kind of clears up some of that (I think LOL).  

 

 

Just another general point.  I totally disagree with all this "Green Bay" did well in this trade.  It's bull.  IF they were not bullied by Rodgers

into signing the extension, Rodgers will still be under the old contract this year with next to nothing in dead cap.

They could have been in a position to trade Rodgers (with one year left on his contract) to anyone who wanted him without taking on

any real dead cap.

 

Green Bay paid a lot of cash and a lot of dead cap for those draft picks.  All this moving around of money has also caused them to have a

$40M cap hit next year for the 33-year-old LT David Bakhtiari.  Like the devil, the true cost of all this is in the details.

[Chicken Boo]

21 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Obtuse much?

Yes, he was on the field when the dolphins won.

 

Doesn't mean he contributed all that much.

 

 

I'll never understand why it's so hard for this board to give credit where it's due.  He played through a concussion he suffered in the 2nd quarter and played well enough to lead his team to victory.

[1onemangang7]

44 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

We looked like an elite team the first half of the season.  Not the second half.  Wonder which Bills squad shows up this season.  

Easy, they'll go as far as Josh is fresh without a run game

[filthymcnasty08]

4 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

We looked like an elite team the first half of the season.  Not the second half.  Wonder which Bills squad shows up this season.  

Our D looked pretty nasty before we lost Hyde/Von. 

Tre was not Tre after we got him back - full offseason/camp and he will be back.

Fill the LB hole in draft

 

On offense: 

Draft a nasty G (O'Cyrus Torrence)

Please get Hopkins and do NOT let him go to KC

 

 

And we will ball with anyone anytime anywhere....bring it.

 

 

 

 

[1onemangang7]

9 minutes ago, filthymcnasty08 said:

Our D looked pretty nasty before we lost Hyde/Von. 

Tre was not Tre after we got him back - full offseason/camp and he will be back.

Fill the LB hole in draft

 

On offense: 

Draft a nasty G (O'Cyrus Torrence)

Please get Hopkins and do NOT let him go to KC

 

 

And we will ball with anyone anytime anywhere....bring it.

 

 

 

 

If they put a cap on Josh running, right now there's not much balling. We've got Thursday and if that fails maybe Harris. 

[TBBills Fan]

"Hackett adds Veteran QB to stacked roster"  What could go wrong? lol

[PrimeTime101]

IF you guys still think the Jets will be easy just because the Jets sink QB's then your delusional..  NYJ has a deep roster and will NOT be an easy out for the bills... THAT defense with Rodgers? 

 

Daym... 

[Gregg]

28 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

IF you guys still think the Jets will be easy just because the Jets sink QB's then your delusional..  NYJ has a deep roster and will NOT be an easy out for the bills... THAT defense with Rodgers? 

 

Daym... 

 

Daym is right.

Paul Hembekides on Twitter: "Aaron Rodgers went 80-10 with the Packers when they allowed fewer than 20 points. The Jets allowed 18.6 PPG last season." / Twitter

 

[boater]

Aaron Rodgers Retires From Professional Football To Play With The Jets

 

Quote

NEW YORK, NY — Legendary Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers has officially signed with the New York Jets, confirming his retirement from professional football.

 

"You have to know when to walk away," said Rodgers. "I'm excited to put on a New York Jets jersey, and leave pro football in the rearview mirror."

Sources inside the Jets organization were reportedly shocked to receive the word from Rodgers. "How much peyote is he smoking??" asked General Manager Joe Douglas. ...

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Well it was a nice season. I’m told the Bills season is already over now? 

 

 

[Billl]

12 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Pretty good from Aaron Rodgers won't win the division.    

 

If you still think he's an MVP quality player going into a season where he turns 40.........and given everything that's transpired with him the past year and a half...........then say THAT.

 

Pretty good and great are a significant distance apart.

How many games do you think the Bills would have won last year with Zack Wilson and Mike White playing QB?  The Jets won 7, and I'm not convinced the Bills would have won that many.  Now they're adding Rodgers who, IMO, is in the same tier as Allen and Burrow in that they're capable of playing at an MVP level.  

 

NY just drafted arguably more talent in last year's draft (Gardner, Wilson, Johnson, Hall) than Beane has since 2018.  I don't think it's a stretch to say they're on the same level as Buffalo.  If Miller and White don't return to their pre-injury level of play, the division is wide open.  Vegas still has Buffalo as the favorite, but they're only given about a 40% chance of winning the division. 

 

That's a long winded way of saying that I think adding Rodgers makes them a credible threat in the AFC.

[SCBills]

Pre-Draft AFC Rosters, outside the QB:

 

If Von, Tre and Hyde all return to 80-90% of what they were pre-injury:

 

1.  Bills

2. Jets

3. Dolphins

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4. Patriots

 

If Von, Tre and Hyde are shells of themselves:

 

1. Jets

2. Dolphins

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3. Bills

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4. Patriots

 

QB Rankings

 

1. Allen

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2. Rodgers

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3. Tua

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4. Mac

 

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by SCBills

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, Billl said:

How many games do you think the Bills would have won last year with Zack Wilson and Mike White playing QB?  The Jets won 7, and I'm not convinced the Bills would have won that many.  Now they're adding Rodgers who, IMO, is in the same tier as Allen and Burrow in that they're capable of playing at an MVP level.  

 

NY just drafted arguably more talent in last year's draft (Gardner, Wilson, Johnson, Hall) than Beane has since 2018.  I don't think it's a stretch to say they're on the same level as Buffalo.  If Miller and White don't return to their pre-injury level of play, the division is wide open.  Vegas still has Buffalo as the favorite, but they're only given about a 40% chance of winning the division. 

 

That's a long winded way of saying that I think adding Rodgers makes them a credible threat in the AFC.

Bills use to win 6-7 games with bad QB play all the time. It’s not that hard.

Edited April 25, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Utah John]

20 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Brett Favre 2.0

 

 

I think Rodgers has more left in the tank than Favre did when the Jets picked him up.

20 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Curious about the conditional 1st. 

The Jets receive Rodgers, the Packers' 2023 first-round pick (No. 15 overall) and a fifth-round pick (No. 170) in exchange for New York's 2023 first-rounder (No. 13), 2023 second-round (No. 42) and sixth-round (No. 207) picks, as well as a conditional 2024 second-round selection that could become a first if Rodgers plays in at least 65 percent of the Jets' snaps this year.

[BuffaloBillyG]

12 minutes ago, Billl said:

How many games do you think the Bills would have won last year with Zack Wilson and Mike White playing QB?  The Jets won 7, and I'm not convinced the Bills would have won that many.  Now they're adding Rodgers who, IMO, is in the same tier as Allen and Burrow in that they're capable of playing at an MVP level.  

 

NY just drafted arguably more talent in last year's draft (Gardner, Wilson, Johnson, Hall) than Beane has since 2018.  I don't think it's a stretch to say they're on the same level as Buffalo.  If Miller and White don't return to their pre-injury level of play, the division is wide open.  Vegas still has Buffalo as the favorite, but they're only given about a 40% chance of winning the division. 

 

That's a long winded way of saying that I think adding Rodgers makes them a credible threat in the AFC.

Remember last off season when the Broncos traded for Russ Wilson? All the pundits getting all whirled up thinking that the Denver Broncos were poised to take down the KC Chiefs in the AFC West? The though process was solid. 

 

-Wilson is a top end QB

-Man, the Broncos have some WEAPONS with Sutton, Jeudy and a good young RB in Williams

-Solid Defense

 

See anything eerily similar about AR to the Jets? I sure do.

 

One thing that is consistent between the 2...A LARGE reason the Denver season imploded was the complete ineptitude their offense showed between their aging QB and their playcalling. Who is calling the plays for the Jests this year? Yes, the same Nate Hackett that oversaw that horrible Bronco offense. And yes, Hackett was "the OC for Rodgers" in Green Bay...but he was not the one making the calls on offense. 

 

Game still has to be played on the field, of course. But there are just as many reasons to speculate that the Jests will implode under the pressure as they will contend for the division. If they start out slow that media will turn on Rodgers with the speed of a Don Beebe running down Leon Lett. 

[filthymcnasty08]

37 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Daym is right.

Paul Hembekides on Twitter: "Aaron Rodgers went 80-10 with the Packers when they allowed fewer than 20 points. The Jets allowed 18.6 PPG last season." / Twitter

 

Sauce Gardner is a scary young man.  Under 200yds/game passing allowed by that D.  We need that 2nd weapon - you can't man-up 2 "uncoverable" WR's....(insert DHop here)

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Well it was a nice season. I’m told the Bills season is already over now? 

 

 

Not over but it's reasonable to think to think the Bills playoff run and Super Bowl aspirations have gotten significantly more difficult. 

 

The AFC east is likely the toughest division in football, KC looks to be a dynasty team, Cinci with Burrow have surpassed the Bills, and others like LA, Jac, Balt, Pitt, etc are in the mix. 

 

In short, maybe Bills fans should temper their expectations for this team. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

 

In short, maybe Bills fans should temper their expectations for this team. 

Why? Lol. 

[TBBills Fan]

7 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Not over but it's reasonable to think to think the Bills playoff run and Super Bowl aspirations have gotten significantly more difficult. 

 

The AFC east is likely the toughest division in football, KC looks to be a dynasty team, Cinci with Burrow have surpassed the Bills, and others like LA, Jac, Balt, Pitt, etc are in the mix. 

 

In short, maybe Bills fans should temper their expectations for this team. 

 

 

I hope the media and everyone "tempers their expectations".  It was a loonnng and weird season last year to be sure, but I believe the Bills being anointed Champs all year didnt do us any favors.  That underdog mentality can bring out the in ya

[mjt328]

Josh Allen always seems to struggle against the Jets defense.  They have taken us to the wire a couple times over the last 2-3 seasons, and last year we even lost to them with Zack Wilson as QB.

New York adding Aaron Rodgers is not a joke, regardless of the arrogant and overconfident responses in this thread.

 

Hope the Bills rediscover their A+ game this year.  Because they played at a B- most of 2022, and that simply isn't going to cut it.

 

[Fallser]

J-E-S-T-S, JESTS JESTS JESTS!!!!

 

Seriously, they're a clown car. I can't wait for that game. 

[Gregg]

28 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

Josh Allen always seems to struggle against the Jets defense.  They have taken us to the wire a couple times over the last 2-3 seasons, and last year we even lost to them with Zack Wilson as QB.

New York adding Aaron Rodgers is not a joke, regardless of the arrogant and overconfident responses in this thread.

 

Hope the Bills rediscover their A+ game this year.  Because they played at a B- most of 2022, and that simply isn't going to cut it.

 

 

A big reason is the Jets DL dominates the Bills crap OL. If we have a better OL and we can bring in Hopkins to go along with Diggs, then I think Josh will be fine going against the Jets D. Although I do expect two tough, physical games against them this season. I remember last year, and the Jets got fired up to play the Bills more than anyone else including the Pats/Fins since the Bills have been the top team in the division recently. Remember Saleh's "we will see them again" in the playoffs quote.

[Aussie Joe]

22 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

 

Hope the Bills rediscover their A+ game this year.  Because they played at a B- most of 2022, and that simply isn't going to cut it.

 

I think you answered your own questions here…

 

The Bills need to play like they did over the first part of the season last year…when they were beating the Chiefs at Arrowhead..

 

They struggled over the back half of the season …injuries were no doubt a factor, but also the coaching was below what it needed to be …JA needs to be a bit more patient and take what’s on offer rather than bombs away…

 

They need to concentrate on themselves… not be worrying about what the Jets are doing..

 

[hondo in seattle]

On the one hand, I don't think this is great for the Jets.   They, more-or-less, give up a second-round pick and a first-round pick for a guy who probably doesn't have very many good years left.  It's a high price for rental.  

 

On the other hand, this isn't great for the Bills either.  Rodgers's good Jets years will overlap with the Josh Allen SB window.   Every win is important, and it just became significantly harder to beat the Jets on the gridiron.  It might become harder to beat them in the standings, too.  

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, TBBills Fan said:

 

 

I hope the media and everyone "tempers their expectations".  It was a loonnng and weird season last year to be sure, but I believe the Bills being anointed Champs all year didnt do us any favors.  That underdog mentality can bring out the in ya

I suppose so. I think today's modern days athletes can drown out much of the outside noise. 

 

Truthfully, I don't think the media hype or lack of had any effect of the Bills players. They are really trained and focused at playing one game at a time. 

1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

Josh Allen always seems to struggle against the Jets defense.  They have taken us to the wire a couple times over the last 2-3 seasons, and last year we even lost to them with Zack Wilson as QB.

New York adding Aaron Rodgers is not a joke, regardless of the arrogant and overconfident responses in this thread.

 

Hope the Bills rediscover their A+ game this year.  Because they played at a B- most of 2022, and that simply isn't going to cut it.

 

Boom!

 

A dose of reality even if it's not so rosey is appreciated. 

Edited April 25, 2023 by newcam2012

[Gregg]

And now a word from Rex.

 

 

 

[TheFunPolice]

so it's become clear that Rex's hear and soul was always with the Jets. 

 

It would be like if one of us was HC of the Bills after a lifetime of working towards it, did the best we could, and after a handful of years got fired and immediately became the HC of the Patriots or Dolphins a few weeks later. 

 

 

 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

4 hours ago, Billl said:

How many games do you think the Bills would have won last year with Zack Wilson and Mike White playing QB?  The Jets won 7, and I'm not convinced the Bills would have won that many.  Now they're adding Rodgers who, IMO, is in the same tier as Allen and Burrow in that they're capable of playing at an MVP level.  

 

NY just drafted arguably more talent in last year's draft (Gardner, Wilson, Johnson, Hall) than Beane has since 2018.  I don't think it's a stretch to say they're on the same level as Buffalo.  If Miller and White don't return to their pre-injury level of play, the division is wide open.  Vegas still has Buffalo as the favorite, but they're only given about a 40% chance of winning the division. 

 

That's a long winded way of saying that I think adding Rodgers makes them a credible threat in the AFC.

 

How many games would the Bills have won?   Irrelevant.  Granted, their HC Sean McDermott did guide a team to the playoffs with the worst point differential to do so in 35 years so the HC does have a history of getting more than the sum of his teams parts.......so maybe 9 or 10 wins wouldn't have been out of the realm of possibility.  But IMO........Allen and Rodgers are apples and oranges at this point in their careers.

 

And fwiw.......that's not how it actually works though.    Patrick Mahomes is worlds better than Alex Smith but the Chiefs didn't start going from 10-12 wins with Smith to undefeated every year because of the upgrade.    The improvement in regular season record was modest.  

 

The Jets caught teams by surprise early last year.   That element is gone.    And they won just 7 games but that already counted a win against Buffalo.......boring the Bills into submission in a listless effort that would have been reminiscent of games the Chiefs played against the dregs of the AFC......Houston(OT win) and Indy(loss).....last year.    So it's not like the Jets even have 2 games to gain against the division favorite, do they? 

 

I'm sure you were quaking in your boots when the Broncos added the elite, seemingly still prime and dynamic Russell Wilson to a superior defense to KC and a host of young offensive weapons.   After all, the Broncos often play KC tough no matter what scrub is at QB.   And Russ had a significantly better year in 2021 than Rodgers did last year.  

 

Did the Broncos improve by 5 games just because they added a veteran future HOF QB who had thrown 25 TD passes and just 6 INT the year before?    It couldn't have gone much different than expected.   I mean, yeah they did almost beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead late last year with an interim coach and a QB fiasco going on...........but somehow the young, elite QB'd team with the coach with the winning track record managed to prevail.   

 

Go figure.   

 

But I will note that you think Rodgers is in the equivalent of Allen and Burrow still.   At age 40, coming off a big performance drop, when he admittedly was 90% committed to retiring 2 months ago.  With a new team that has the longest playoff drought in the AFC.  And a buffoonish meathead at head coach.     

Edited April 25, 2023 by BADOLBILZ

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

26 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

so it's become clear that Rex's hear and soul was always with the Jets. 

 

It would be like if one of us was HC of the Bills after a lifetime of working towards it, did the best we could, and after a handful of years got fired and immediately became the HC of the Patriots or Dolphins a few weeks later. 

 

 

 

 

No, only after the guaranteed money from the Bills' coaching gig ran out...😁

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"This is my dad's Super Bowl III ring.  Why am I wearing it?  So Fat Bastard Brother can't hock it and go to Golden Corral and the casino!" 🤨

Edited April 25, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[TBBills Fan]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

I suppose so. I think today's modern days athletes can drown out much of the outside noise. 

 

Truthfully, I don't think the media hype or lack of had any effect of the Bills players. They are really trained and focused at playing one game at a time. 

Boom!

 

A dose of reality even if it's not so rosey is appreciated. 

 

 

I disagree...yes they trained their asses off...

 

but they knew they were good and everyone said so, human ego is very real....with alpha males especially

Edited April 25, 2023 by TBBills Fan

[Sestak4ever]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but in February Rodgers said he was 90% retired. Makes you wonder about his focus and commitment.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Rodgers quickly goes from best QB in the NFC to maybe the 6-7th best in the AFC. What a murderers row in this division. I still think Buffalo still takes the AFCE, but I have a feeling we will see the Jets in the playoffs. 

[PauleeeWalnuts]

2 hours ago, Fallser said:

J-E-S-T-S, JESTS JESTS JESTS!!!!

 

Seriously, they're a clown car. I can't wait for that game. 

They’re loaded with talent, a great defense and now Aaron Rodgers. Let’s not forget they beat us with Zac Wilson last season…A clown car they are not. 

[Fallser]

14 minutes ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

They’re loaded with talent, a great defense and now Aaron Rodgers. Let’s not forget they beat us with Zac Wilson last season…A clown car they are not. 

 

JESTS go 7-10, 6-11 if Aaron plays all 17. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

Vegas doesn't seem to care as much as I thought about the Rodgers move...

Edited April 25, 2023 by Dablitzkrieg