Einstein Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 20 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He can't cover. The 1990s called. They want their linebacker back. Sal just said on Twitter that he thinks the Bills may be targeting more of a downhill "thumper" at LB after letting Tremaine walk. If so, that is EXACTLY who Long is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Has anything else come out other than that initial tweet reporting some interest? With us losing Edmunds, and now seeing some other LB's land else where, there are not a lot of great options remaining. I have a feeling Beane is letting the market shake out, but I just hope we don't wait too long given how important of a position it is in McD's defense. My first choice was Al-Shaair, but he is going to the Titans. My second choice is David, so hope we see some movement on this soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Sal just said on Twitter that he thinks the Bills may be targeting more of a downhill "thumper" at LB after letting Tremaine walk. If so, that is EXACTLY who Long is. Long is a Dolphin. David is a thumper who can also cover at a high level Edited March 14, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: Sal just said on Twitter that he thinks the Bills may be targeting more of a downhill "thumper" at LB after letting Tremaine walk. If so, that is EXACTLY who Long is. I saw that from Sal, and tell Sal the Bills need 3 down backers against modern offenses. I'm not even sure down hill thumpers even exist anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, appoo said: I saw that from Sal, and tell Sal the Bills need 3 down backers against modern offenses. I'm not even sure down hill thumpers even exist anymore I assume he means a more physical player than Edmunds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: Sal just said on Twitter that he thinks the Bills may be targeting more of a downhill "thumper" at LB after letting Tremaine walk. If so, that is EXACTLY who Long is. He's gone already though...thought Miami snagged him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 So we go from rangy light coverage MLB to “downhill thumper”? … ok, random .. good thing we drafted Bernard last year, who is the opposite of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 McDermott’s strength is finding and developing DB’s and LB’s. Would much rather spend free agency dollars on offense or D-Line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Bills should have drafted Leo Chenal instead of Bernard last year. He has the physicality that this team is lacking. He started slow his rookie year on a stacked Chiefs team, but was all over the field in the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: He's gone already though...thought Miami snagged him? Yes sir. I was just referencing a conversation I was having before the Dolphins got him (or about the time the Dolphins got him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 Here is the thing with Edmunds. Him and Milano are exact same skill set. Good sideline to sideline that are not aggressive at POA (Milano is a bit better here). What I think the Bills are looking for here are same coverage and range ability but more violent at the point of attack. And more stout at POA. That is what Sal means by thumper. can either of the two former rookies Benard or Spector or even Dodson fill that eventually? I think that would be their plan. But look at an older type player that also fits that mold to come in and teach the Benards Spectors Dodsons or Rookie in the twilight of their career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 58 minutes ago, Einstein said: Sal just said on Twitter that he thinks the Bills may be targeting more of a downhill "thumper" at LB after letting Tremaine walk. If so, that is EXACTLY who Long is. Agree that is who Long is. I'll believe it is what the Bills want when I see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Here is the thing with Edmunds. Him and Milano are exact same skill set. Good sideline to sideline that are not aggressive at POA (Milano is a bit better here). What I think the Bills are looking for here are same coverage and range ability but more violent at the point of attack. And more stout at POA. That is what Sal means by thumper. can either of the two former rookies Benard or Spector or even Dodson fill that eventually? I think that would be their plan. But look at an older type player that also fits that mold to come in and teach the Benards Spectors Dodsons or Rookie in the twilight of their career. Milano is a better player than Edmunds. Edmunds had a knack for being out of position quite a bit at the POA. Got pushed around some and was late to play when the tackle already occurred. Yeah, he may have had a better season last year, but I don’t put a lot of stock in how good a player is in the last year of a contract. I’d like to see a vet guy who can hold the position for a season or two. Maybe we have Edmunds replacement on the roster now? Maybe we draft a guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Agree that is who Long is. I'll believe it is what the Bills want when I see it. Is there a chance we get a thumper but take him off the field on passing downs and replace him with a big safety? Edited March 14, 2023 by Royale with Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 28 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What I think the Bills are looking for here are same coverage and range ability but more violent at the point of attack. And more stout at POA. That is what Sal means by thumper. can either of the two former rookies Benard or Spector or even Dodson fill that eventually? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Has anything else come out other than that initial tweet reporting some interest? With us losing Edmunds, and now seeing some other LB's land else where, there are not a lot of great options remaining. I have a feeling Beane is letting the market shake out, but I just hope we don't wait too long given how important of a position it is in McD's defense. My first choice was Al-Shaair, but he is going to the Titans. My second choice is David, so hope we see some movement on this soon. Yup, Al-Shaair, David, VanderE in that order. All would be 7-9 M range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, appoo said: I saw that from Sal, and tell Sal the Bills need 3 down backers against modern offenses. I'm not even sure down hill thumpers even exist anymore I was surprised by Sal's comment too, but I wonder if he knows something from the Bills front office or if he is just speculating. Long can cover. He's not great at it, but he's also not horrible at it either. He is NOT Reggie Ragland who couldn't cover at all. Obviously Long is a Dolphin now but I would have loved to have him in red and blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Is there a chance we get a thumper but take him off the field on passing downs and replace him with a big safety? If we had any safeties.... sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: If we had any safeties.... sure. Is Bernard that lost or is he someone that just needed a year to have the game slow down for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Einstein said: I was surprised by Sal's comment too, but I wonder if he knows something from the Bills front office or if he is just speculating. Long can cover. He's not great at it, but he's also not horrible at it either. He is NOT Reggie Ragland who couldn't cover at all. Obviously Long is a Dolphin now but I would have loved to have him in red and blue. Thing is, if Long is the LB, then the Bills would have to go to a real 4-3 because they wouldn't have two backers who can go sideline to sideline and they have to play Long as much as they'd be paying him, and then add another slot to go Dime as your base pass package, because they would only have 1 backer who's reliable in coverage If anything, I'd rather just toss Bernard into the fire as the Will then pay for someone like Long Edited March 14, 2023 by appoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, appoo said: Thing is, if Long is the LB, then the Bills would have to go to a real 4-3 because they wouldn't have two backers who can go sideline to sideline and they have to play Long as much as they'd be paying him, and then add another slot to go Dime as your base pass package, because they would only have 1 backer who's reliable in coverage If anything, I'd rather just toss Bernard into the fire as the Will then pay for someone like Long Did you.... like what you saw from Bernard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: Did you.... like what you saw from Bernard? I saw a rookie getting his feet wet. The Bills defense is one of the highest demanding defenses from LBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, appoo said: I saw a rookie getting his feet wet. The Bills defense is one of the highest demanding defenses from LBs. Maybe thats what Beane is banking on too, but oofta... I was not impressed at all with Bernard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: Maybe thats what Beane is banking on too, but oofta... I was not impressed at all with Bernard. Unfortunately, Josh Allen may have priced them out of adding FA over a 3rd round pick. That's the thing with having a franchise QB getting paid like one...hitting on your top 100 picks is a must, those guys have to be able to start at some point in their rookie deals Edited March 14, 2023 by appoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 He’s a great player. Much better defense with him on it. This is difference maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 12:57 AM, Big Blitz said: Get this guy. Get Poyer back at 7 mill per. Draft safeties WRs and IOLs. Fortify oline depth. Swing a trade for a WR. Done. You sound like the kind of person who gets into trouble with credit card debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 hours ago, appoo said: Unfortunately, Josh Allen may have priced them out of adding FA over a 3rd round pick. That's the thing with having a franchise QB getting paid like one...hitting on your top 100 picks is a must, those guys have to be able to start at some point in their rookie deals Should probably trade Allen then so people on here can have a more exciting free agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 12 hours ago, Einstein said: Did you.... like what you saw from Bernard? We honestly didn’t see enough of Benard to know what he actually is I’m not saying that he’s the answer because we haven’t seen enough of him to know that I still feel like he’s more like mulano, so not the answer at middle linebacker But he was a rookie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Bernard was a healthy scratch for the Cincinatti Playoff game. I like to look for the good in everyone and stay optimistic, but I do not understand the Bernard thing at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 year 7M...serious question, we'd rather have Harty over David!? Same money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, BillsDiehard said: 1 year 7M...serious question, we'd rather have Harty over David!? Same money! Maybe David wanted to stay in Florida.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsDiehard said: 1 year 7M...serious question, we'd rather have Harty over David!? Same money! Serious question, how do you know we didn’t offer David $8M? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Maybe David wanted to stay in Florida.... Can’t overlook that a lot of these veterans have made their $$. Playing in Buffalo is a lot different from playing in FLA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Spector > Bernard and Dodson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warriorspikes51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 any young LB's around the league still on rookie contracts that we could target? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillsDiehard said: 1 year 7M...serious question, we'd rather have Harty over David!? Same money! thats not what Hartys making. potential diamond in the rough on offense, is hard to compare to an aging LB asking for double Hartys salary. apples and tuna comp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I'd rather pay 7-8m for a proven commodity and an area of need than for a WR with 4 career TDs that's been in the league for 4 years! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, BillsDiehard said: I'd rather pay 7-8m for a proven commodity and an area of need than for a WR with 4 career TDs that's been in the league for 4 years! My god, it's a 3.5 million cap hit with an out after this year. Who cares about the actual guaranteed money? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 22 hours ago, Bag of Milk said: Bills should have drafted Leo Chenal instead of Bernard last year. He has the physicality that this team is lacking. He started slow his rookie year on a stacked Chiefs team, but was all over the field in the Super Bowl. love the player, but doesnt at all fit a 2 LB system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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