Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, boyst said: drops mcgee? no thanks Outside speed, size, and youth. I wouldn’t want a long term deal but someone that could replace Davis if Davis doesn’t work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Outside speed, size, and youth. I wouldn’t want a long term deal but someone that could replace Davis if Davis doesn’t work out. you're only willing to give davis 1 more year to work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: No. My defense of the Bills is that the revisionist history about our drafting never gets compared to accurate objective assessments of other franchises. But I’m not (and wasn’t) comparing it to other teams. You are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, boyst said: you're only willing to give davis 1 more year to work out? Contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Some people want Chark. Some people is Me. I guess Carolina is a prerequisite though. I would be good with this if we brought in Chark, he could be dangerous with Allen slinging him the rock Edited March 16, 2023 by Alphadawg7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Some people want Chark. Some people is Me. I guess Carolina is a prerequisite though. Wanted him out of LSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I'm honestly a little surprised the bills haven't gone after gisecki. Seems like a perfect fit here and wouldn't be too expensive? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, Steptide said: I'm honestly a little surprised the bills haven't gone after gisecki. Seems like a perfect fit here and wouldn't be too expensive? Pats are rumored to have interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, Steptide said: I'm honestly a little surprised the bills haven't gone after gisecki. Seems like a perfect fit here and wouldn't be too expensive? I noticed Dalton Schultz available too..it could be these guys picked the year of the deepest TE class in a decade to become free agents and they are too pricey right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Pats are rumored to have interest He followed the Pats page is the story around these parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Steptide said: I'm honestly a little surprised the bills haven't gone after gisecki. Seems like a perfect fit here and wouldn't be too expensive? He can’t block. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: But I’m not (and wasn’t) comparing it to other teams. You are. How can you judge something….anything…..as good or bad if you aren’t comparing it to anything at all? Are the Bills drafts horrible because they aren’t as good as the Tampa Bay Rays at finding talent? Because they should have standards for inclusion like MIT? Or does it make sense to compare them to other NFL teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He can’t block. Then make him a big slot WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, The Jokeman said: Then make him a big slot WR. Possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Some people want Chark. Some people is Me. I guess Carolina is a prerequisite though. I can't fault these guys for securing the bag, but if he goes to Carolina that's where his career dies. I'd go the JuJu route. Sign a 1-year deal with the best QB'd team you can and parlay that into more money. It's risky, but it can prolong your career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would be good with this if we brought in Chark, he could be dangerous with Allen slinging him the rock What Josh throwing to Chark would look like 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Billz4ever said: You're going to have to explain to me why Tennessee would want to trade Simmons, who's a more productive DT than Oliver, have to eat $21M in dead cap between Henry and Simmons, and then still have to pay Ed his $11M salary this year and have clear downgrades at RB and DT. That, and why would they want the 1st next year seeing as the draft is in a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, H2o said: What Josh throwing to Chark would look like Lol, ok that meme is funny, but Chark isn't quite that bad. Im not saying to replace Davis, just to be another guy who can stretch the field. He was 6th in the NFL last year in big play rate (catches over 20 yards) and has a better catch rate than Davis does and less drops. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, Draconator said: I was surprised by this, Joe Mario went in how much better he looked at RG and Bates has said publicly that he’s more comfortable at LG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 47 minutes ago, 947 said: I watched a few Browns games last year. When Hunt came in the game, I noticed a huge drop-off from Chubb. It wasn't like years past, where they were nearly interchangeable. Hunt looked like a plodding JAG to me, definitely not better than Singletary. Hunt is different than Chubb. Chubb, as powerful as he is, is a cut and go. He avoids the 1st tackle or 2 and then plows through people. Hunt is straight ahead full speed. Not nearly as good as Chubb, but he is very good. Much better than Singletary in my opinion. And Hunt is a very good receiver as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: How can you judge something….anything…..as good or bad if you aren’t comparing it to anything at all? Are the Bills drafts horrible because they aren’t as good as the Tampa Bay Rays at finding talent? Because they should have standards for inclusion like MIT? Or does it make sense to compare them to other NFL teams? An NFL roster is made up of players acquired from a wide array of places. It’s always in flux. Teams both ascend and descend. Right now, at this very moment, the Bills need to be really careful. They’ve gotten by with subpar drafting by plucking a few agent here and there. But now they’re walking a cap tight rope. The last few drafts have put them in a real bind. It isn’t great but it is what it is and it has NOTHING to do with what any other teams are doing. The equation you’re trying to assert has way too many variables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I was surprised by this, Joe Mario went in how much better he looked at RG and Bates has said publicly that he’s more comfortable at LG. It could also mean Connor is taking Ryan Bates spot and that Bates is the one the Bills are looking to upgrade from in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 7 hours ago, arcane said: And has 17 games of mediocrity in the 14 months since that season ended Go rewatch him in week 18, a must-win for the packers to make the playoffs, going against one of the worst defenses in the league at home I know he didn't play well last year, and he may continue down that path, but I think it is much more likely that he packed it in last year and really didn't care. That's not good either, but he didn't suddenly lose the ability to play, I think he lost the will to play in GB anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Draconator said: I mean I have little doubt they'll shuffle around the line during training camp and put out the best combination they can wherever that puts them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I was surprised by this, Joe Mario went in how much better he looked at RG and Bates has said publicly that he’s more comfortable at LG. 🤔 Seumalo is a RG..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I was surprised by this, Joe Mario went in how much better he looked at RG and Bates has said publicly that he’s more comfortable at LG. Bates looked great at left guard two years ago. He even looked great at center when had to fill in there. Rn, McD & beane do not seem like they have a decent grasp on oline development. I’m a lil concerned now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: It could also mean Connor is taking Ryan Bates spot and that Bates is the one the Bills are looking to upgrade from in the draft Doubt it, Bates was far from bad last year and is being paid starter money. He was definitely better at LG in 2021 playing next to Dawkins and Morse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: An NFL roster is made up of players acquired from a wide array of places. It’s always in flux. Teams both ascend and descend. Right now, at this very moment, the Bills need to be really careful. They’ve gotten by with subpar drafting by plucking a few agent here and there. But now they’re walking a cap tight rope. The last few drafts have put them in a real bind. It isn’t great but it is what it is and it has NOTHING to do with what any other teams are doing. The equation you’re trying to assert has way too many variables. Lol how can you call the Bills drafting “subpar” but object when asked to compare it with other teams? How is par established in your view? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, GETTOTHE50 said: Bates looked great at left guard two years ago. He even looked great at center when had to fill in there. Rn, McD & beane do not seem like they have a decent grasp on oline development. I’m a lil concerned now I think it’s also March and Bates just played a full season at LG and McG just played a full season at RG. Continue from where they left off and make the call after you see them line up, week 2 of OTAs they could switch for all we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, Steptide said: I'm honestly a little surprised the bills haven't gone after gisecki. Seems like a perfect fit here and wouldn't be too expensive? Isn't Gesicki really more like a big WR than a TE, eg not a good blocker? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I was surprised by this, Joe Mario went in how much better he looked at RG and Bates has said publicly that he’s more comfortable at LG. Maybe Beane thinks that McGovern or Bates will take over C next year. Leaves RG still open. I was hoping for a RG in the draft. They could keep the rookie as depth and to adjust to the NFL this year and he could take it over next. 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 🤔 Seumalo is a RG..... Or a rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Lol how can you call the Bills drafting “subpar” but object when asked to compare it with other teams? How is par established in your view? Don't hassle him with your logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, Beck Water said: Isn't Gesicki really more like a big WR than a TE, eg not a good blocker? Possibly, but he's pretty decent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, ColoradoBills said: Maybe Beane thinks that McGovern or Bates will take over C next year. Leaves RG still open. I was hoping for a RG in the draft. They could keep the rookie as depth and to adjust to the NFL this year and he could take it over next. Or a rookie. Maybe, but both are being paid starter money. I can’t see one on the bench and I’m not sure that it would be Bates, who is better than McG IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Anyone interested in Frank Clark or Melvin Ingram? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Isn't Gesicki really more like a big WR than a TE, eg not a good blocker? That is what I always hear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Anyone interested in Frank Clark or Melvin Ingram? Me. I am him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Doubt it, Bates was far from bad last year and is being paid starter money. He was definitely better at LG in 2021 playing next to Dawkins and Morse. Just seems odd that Connor would state the Bills see him as LG when that is Bates best position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: Just seems odd that Connor would state the Bills see him as LG when that is Bates best position McG’s best position is also RG, where he played in college and looked the best in Dallas. It simply might be too early to read into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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