StHustle Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 No he’s not in our division and yes we beat them at a decent clip in regular season contests but I still get that 🤮 feeling when I see this dudes face on the sidelines and hear the media worship him. He did nothing Amazing last night imo. If not for a freak untouched fumble by Hurts this game ends differently. History won’t remember it that way tho 😥 4 4 2 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 He played near perfect. Completely mistake free. Folks keep saying “he didn’t do anything Josh can’t do” which is true. But he also didn’t do things that Josh does a lot, like make boneheaded decisions and throws. 7 1 14 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 I'm no fan of Mahommes but as a player, he has earned my respect. Played thru a very painful high ankle sprain and performed well. 7 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: He played near perfect. Completely mistake free. Folks keep saying “he didn’t do anything Josh can’t do” which is true. But he also didn’t do things that Josh does a lot, like make boneheaded decisions and throws. He did but it was the gameplan and OL that was the real MVP last night. KC had tons of easy completions, that staff did a great job setting him up for success. Wish our guy had the same luxury 🙄 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 I don't hate Pat. I just want 1. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Just now, JerseyBills said: He did but it was the gameplan and OL that was the real MVP last night. KC had tons of easy completions, that staff did a great job setting him up for success. Wish our guy had the same luxury 🙄 Wish our guy also didn’t throw the ball into a linebackers chest occasionally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Philly made the big mistake which cost them the game. Similar to the Pats where they capitalized on the other team's mistakes and never beat themselves which always put them in a position to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Wish our guy also didn’t throw the ball into a linebackers chest occasionally. How many throws did Josh make this season? How many interceptions? Now compare to Mahomes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: He played near perfect. Completely mistake free. Folks keep saying “he didn’t do anything Josh can’t do” which is true. But he also didn’t do things that Josh does a lot, like make boneheaded decisions and throws. The first of the 3 SB's where he played well. Prior to this he had a 61 QB Rating in the SB's along with 2 TDs and 4 INTs and a completion percentage around 58%. In the first 2, he played 1 good quarter out of 8. Edited February 13, 2023 by Big Turk 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: How many throws did Josh make this season? How many interceptions? Now compare to Mahomes. He led the NFL in TO’s bro…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: I'm no fan of Mahommes but as a player, he has earned my respect. Played thru a very painful high ankle sprain and performed well. AND, he seems to be rather humble and gracious, unlike a certain “GOAT” that we all knew and loved. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Just now, RiotAct said: AND, he seems to be rather humble and gracious, unlike a certain “GOAT” that we all knew and loved. Agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: He led the NFL in TO’s bro…. The big issue is the red zone turnovers. He was so clean there for so long but last year became an issue. But it’s not as if Mahomes was flawless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 The NFL now has their new Brady. He'll get all the calls like last night. The nightmare begins again. 1 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: The big issue is the red zone turnovers. He was so clean there for so long but last year became an issue. But it’s not as if Mahomes was flawless. He threw us one...Elam picked him off in our game in the endzone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) Brady won 2001, 2003, 2004. Then Roethlisberger in 2005. Manning finally got his in 2006. Chiefs are the new Patriots but other AFC teams will win it as well. Keep on pushing, we’re close. Just like Manning was close. You don’t tear it down when you’re close. I’m glad we’re at the table. Edited February 13, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, StHustle said: No he’s not in our division and yes we beat them at a decent clip in regular season contests but I still get that 🤮 feeling when I see this dudes face on the sidelines and hear the media worship him. He did nothing Amazing last night imo. If not for a freak untouched fumble by Hurts this game ends differently. History won’t remember it that way tho 😥 An absolute perfect storm for him. A GM who builds around him and a HC who’s one of the best play callers of all time. You put Patrick Mahomes in Buffalo for the next 5 years under this staff and talent, he wouldn’t win a ring. You put Josh Allen in KC for the next 5 years, he’d win minimum 2 as well. I’ll take Josh Allen 7 days a week, twice on Sunday. 1 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Hey...where's Rosen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: The big issue is the red zone turnovers. He was so clean there for so long but last year became an issue. But it’s not as if Mahomes was flawless. He was yesterday. He was near flawless all postseason. 7-0 TD:INT. 1 fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 I thought sugar high Mahomes was playing hero ball and not taking what the defense gave him. Luckily for him the plays that he tossed up a wounded duck after scrambling were not intercepted. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Mahomes is already in play as the 2nd best QB to ever play the game. Have no issue with the guy. That said, watching him throw to wide open receivers because he has one of the greatest offensive minds of all time drives me crazy. I feel like Brady carried Belichick. I feel like Mahomes and Reid may be the greatest Coach and QB combo of all time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Since Patrick has been in this league I can count on one hand the amount of QBs that can go punch for punch with him like the zone he had in the second half. One was Mr Brady when he converted 4 straight 4th downs in the AFC title game. The other is number 17 in Buffalo who we all saw do this last year. Josh can’t play defensive end, OT, safety, or number 2 WR. If this team comes up short it isn’t because of the quarterback it’s because this front office failed him. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: He was yesterday. He was near flawless all postseason. 7-0 TD:INT. 1 fumble. So was Josh last post season. Indeed, he was more than good enough up to the bye. Would love to know what happened after the Chiefs game as the entire team seemed to go off the boil at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Just now, UKBillFan said: So was Josh last post season. Indeed, he was more than good enough up to the bye. Would love to know what happened after the Chiefs game as the entire team seemed to go off the boil at that point. We didn't win the SB last season. Mahomes won it this season lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: I'm no fan of Mahomes but as a player, he has earned my respect. Played thru a very painful high ankle sprain and performed well. Ya, true. He is very, very good and very, very consistent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: We didn't win the SB last season. Mahomes won it this season lmao. Failing to win the SB last season wasn’t on Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: Failing to win the SB last season wasn’t on Josh. Sure. It was in 2020 though. And 2022. And 2019. And 2018. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, FireChans said: He played near perfect. Completely mistake free. Folks keep saying “he didn’t do anything Josh can’t do” which is true. But he also didn’t do things that Josh does a lot, like make boneheaded decisions and throws. I mean he did try and shuffle pass it to a defender at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Big Turk said: He threw us one...Elam picked him off in our game in the endzone. He threw us 2. TJ picked him off thanks to Von's pressure to end the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: He threw us 2. TJ picked him off thanks to Von's pressure to end the game. Yeah but that wasn't in the redzone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Yeah but that wasn't in the redzone. No, but actually more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Mahomes is a freakishly good quarterback. He has the MVPs and Lombardis. Its unimpeachible. Brady wasnt spectacular at all early in his career. He was a decent game manager, but New England had great special teams, defense, and coaching (and maybe a little something else*) that got them through that first superbowl and the early 00s. My eyeballs saw that Payton Manning was 10x better as a QB but was shouted down due to 'rings'. Brady really never showed any superlative skill. He was just really well prepared, dedicated himself to his craft, and had ice in his veins. Belichick out-coached the opposition nearly every game too. Then you add the various bending of the rules allegations, and brady's wooden public persona. It is tough to like him. I just dont know why we couldnt have Scantling, JuJu, and/or Toney. They gave Josh crap to work with this year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, FireChans said: He played near perfect. Completely mistake free. Folks keep saying “he didn’t do anything Josh can’t do” which is true. But he also didn’t do things that Josh does a lot, like make boneheaded decisions and throws. Big Josh Allen fan! But he needs to be better in a few areas if we are going to compete consistently with KC. Right now Mahomes is the best QB in the league by some margin. There is a second premier tier with Allen and Burrow some distance back. I think if Mahomes retired tomorrow he is in the HoF. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Just now, Mango said: Big Josh Allen fan! But he needs to be better in a few areas if we are going to compete consistently with KC. Right now Mahomes is the best QB in the league by some margin. There is a second premier tier with Allen and Burrow some distance back. I think if Mahomes retired tomorrow he is in the HoF. For me, the difference is Josh COULD move to the top premier tier, as his issues are over mentality rather than physical. I think Burrow is at his peak now and won’t improve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mango said: Big Josh Allen fan! But he needs to be better in a few areas if we are going to compete consistently with KC. Right now Mahomes is the best QB in the league by some margin. There is a second premier tier with Allen and Burrow some distance back. I think if Mahomes retired tomorrow he is in the HoF. Josh Allen looks like the Big Ben to Mahomes' Brady. Will only win one if he doesn't have to play him to get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, FireChans said: Sure. It was in 2020 though. And 2022. And 2019. And 2018. I don’t think the expectation was on Josh in 2018 and 2019. He wasn’t seen as elite calibre. Potential but not elite. 2022 was a meltdown on all sides of the ball. Don’t think it can just be blamed on the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) the kid is not brady, not even close. he is in his own universe and frankly, I think he is much better than brady. I can not hate a player like him nor take away from the chiefs as a whole. great team. the problem lies with beane. he has had 5 years to build around JA, who is a great player as well and if he were given the same tools as the kid in kc, he and the bills could give the chiefs a run for their money. he has failed to do so and the clock is running out. Edited February 13, 2023 by DaBillsFanSince1973 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Every offseason Josh has improved in some area. For those saying “I wish Josh had these easy throws Mahomes has” well, he does, he just opts not to take them. Mahomes has learned to take those easy pitch and catches, keep the chains moving. One thing that is inarguable between the two is that Mahomes does have a vastly superior OL, but I hope Josh dedicates this offseason to the mental approach of the game. Pre and post snap processing. Hopefully he’s poring over tape, like it’s an obsession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: the kid is not brady, not even close. he is in his own universe and frankly, I think he is much better than brady. I can not hate a player like him nor take away from the chiefs as a whole. great team. the problem lies with beane. he has had 5 years to build around JA, who is a great player as well and if he were given the same tools as the kid in kc, he and the bills could give the chiefs a run for their money. he has failed to so and the clock is running out. I think it will take 2-3 season to reset the roster and lap the chiefs. They seem pretty cush with their roster, UFA's, and cap space for the next 2-3 seasons while the Bills will need to either borrow from 3-4 seasons away or take 2-3 to reset and regroup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: I don’t think the expectation was on Josh in 2018 and 2019. He wasn’t seen as elite calibre. Potential but not elite. 2022 was a meltdown on all sides of the ball. Don’t think it can just be blamed on the QB. Has nothing to do with expectation. No one expected Mahomes to be MVP in year two. He still did it. Josh Allen didn't play well enough to win a Superbowl in any year of his career except 2021. When you are the QB, you take the blame. Rodgers gets crushed when his team rolls over and dies in the postseason. So did Peyton. So did Brees. All HoF guys. Win or shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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