bills6969 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Probably Poyer. Who else? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemsonBills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Edmunds. The Bengals picked on him today. They required him to make quick decisions and guess wrong on about all of them. 2 1 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 We desperately need to improve our lines on both sides of the ball. Allen has been under a lot of pressure, and he's starting to get a lot more jumpy. And, we have failed to get pressure on opposing QBs too often this year. I'll also add that our playcalling has been suspect. I didn't understand, for example, why we didn't jam the receivers when Frazier called an all-out blitz in the second quarter. Go all-in with the weather conditions if you're going to call it in your redzone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, ClemsonBills said: Edmunds. The Bengals picked on him today. They required him to make quick decisions and guess wrong on about all of them. Yup. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) Poyer, Edmunds, Taiwan Jones, Siran Neal, Tyler Mattekavich all come to mind as folks I’d let walk. id find a way to trade Oliver mainly to get out of the salary for the year. Edited January 22, 2023 by iccrewman112 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Murdox said: We desperately need to improve our lines on both sides of the ball. Allen has been under a lot of pressure, and he's starting to get a lot more jumpy. And, we have failed to get pressure on opposing QBs too often this year. I'll also add that our playcalling has been suspect. I didn't understand, for example, why we didn't jam the receivers when Frazier called an all-out blitz in the second quarter. Go all-in with the weather conditions if you're going to call it in your redzone. Agrees...for the amount of money and picks we have spent on the DLine they came up very very short today against a garbage OLine. Miller and Jones being out today hurt but that wasn't going to make that big of a difference today. Edited January 22, 2023 by Big Turk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 That's because Edmund's is a solid player but the knock is he is a tick behind on instincts and processing. Would I want him back? Absolutely? Do I want him back for 15+ million per? No...not unless that comes with an O-Line, a 2nd receiver, a healthy Von Miller, and 2 new coordinators. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Big Turk said: Agrees...for the amount of money and picks we have spent on the DLine they came up very very short today against a garbage OLine. All of them can go. All. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 let them all walk We overpaying for the mediocre talent we drafted Beane is on the hotseat They have spent three years on d line and made no progress O line is stagnant as well Still a team than can be manhandled in the trenches 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Probably Poyer. Who else? 11 minutes ago, ClemsonBills said: Edmunds. The Bengals picked on him today. They required him to make quick decisions and guess wrong on about all of them. Agreed. Saffold too. He was a bad signing and should not be back. Motor probably depends on price. Lots to debate. List of FAs is here: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/buffalo-bills/ Spotrac estimates Edmunds’ value at $11M AAV. I’d be okay with that, but no way he takes it. He’ll be looking for a whole lot more and I think some team will give it to him. I just don’t want it to be the Bills. They have Motor’s at $5.5M. I think the RB market will push down salaries. I’d look to sign him or a comparable RB for a lot less. Edited January 22, 2023 by BarleyNY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) Given how much this defense underachieves, they need to take a good hard look top to bottom. For the amount of resources they've sunk into this defense, the return on investment is lacking. And it's always most evident in big games like this one. Edited January 22, 2023 by Billz4ever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Phillips was pretty useless most of the year. Not worth the $5 million we paid him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, klos63 said: Phillips was pretty useless most of the year. Not worth the $5 million we paid him. He probably should have been shutdown weeks ago. Rumor is he has a torn labrum. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 This game certainly did not provide motivation to re-sign Poyer, Edmunds, Saffold and Motor. Problem is that we do not have replacements on the roster for Poyer and Edmunds, or the cap space to sign free agent upgrades. I assume most of our free agents will be gone, mostly because of salary cap constraints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Let Poyer go. Did you guys see him dogging it out there today? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Edmunds waited until the last game of the year to have his worst game of the year. That pancake into the Gatorade jugs by the backup left tackle will live in infamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawning Frog Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Don't matter to me who they sign, or don't this team just proved they are not a Superbowl contenders with any of these guys. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: He probably should have been shutdown weeks ago. Rumor is he has a torn labrum. He's had one good season in his career. Edited January 22, 2023 by klos63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, jahnyc said: This game certainly did not provide motivation to re-sign Poyer, Edmunds, Saffold and Motor. Problem is that we do not have replacements on the roster for Poyer and Edmunds, or the cap space to sign free agent upgrades. I assume most of our free agents will be gone, mostly because of salary cap constraints. The salary cap isn't real and they could easily free up space with some restructures 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worstcaseontario Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Let Poyer go. Did you guys see him dogging it out there today? I saw a few missed tackles from poyer that made me want to punch myself in the face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Erryone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Poyer has to go. Adios PO PO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Let Poyer go. Did you guys see him dogging it out there today? He played with a bum arm most of the year, that said if he wants big money I can't justify with his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: The salary cap isn't real and they could easily free up space with some restructures It's not a big deal, but it's something to consider. Look at New Orleans - they pushed their cap issues way down the road and it's catching up to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, RiotAct said: Erryone. Except for: 1. Milano 2. Josh Allen 3. Diggs The rest can go. Keep in moving, that includes the coaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: It's not a big deal, but it's something to consider. Look at New Orleans - they pushed their cap issues way down the road and it's catching up to them. The difference is Beane is much better at cap management than most GMs are. That was his job as an assistant GM in Carolina. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Youth movement will be critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Worstcaseontario said: I saw a few missed tackles from poyer that made me want to punch myself in the face Too busy thinking of his plastic fantastic wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 What about OL? We have 5 under contract next season. I think we sign (or re-sign) several and draft at least two. Here are the OL FAs: Quessenberry Saffold Van Roten Boetteger Hart Murray On the roster: Dawkins Morse Bates Brown Doyle I’d bring back some of them - Quessenberry, Van Roten and Boetteger if their contracts are reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: What about OL? We have 5 under contract next season. I think we sign (or re-sign) several and draft at least two. Here are the OL FAs: Quessenberry Saffold Van Roten Boetteger Hart Murray On the roster: Dawkins Morse Bates Brown Doyle I’d bring back some of them - Quessenberry, Van Roten and Boetteger if their contracts are reasonable. Saffold was abysmal today. I guess keep Van Roten for flexibility, Hart because he might be good (?) and Boettger. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: The difference is Beane is much better at cap management than most GMs are. That was his job as an assistant GM in Carolina. Beane is good with the cap but he is not special in that regard. GMs are almost all really good at it - and the poor ones don’t last long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 We are not in great cap space and we have a lot of money tied up in White and Miller (who may not play until late season in 2023). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Of the big names: Poyer, Phillips, Singletary and Saffold. If we keep Edmunds, we should trade Oliver. Id shop Tre White. Way too much investment on this defense. Still decent talent coming back next year if you strip the defense down. Hire a more aggressive coordinator and devote the off-season to the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 the ST aces tired of too many of them on the team 2 maybe tops ST was atrocious Poyer nope Edmunds will the big one w McDermott I'm guessing they keep him but I think the money would be better used on the OLine imo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: Saffold was abysmal today. I guess keep Van Roten for flexibility, Hart because he might be good (?) and Boettger. Yeah. You need some continuity if it makes financial sense. Of those three two will be very cheap and the other (Ques) shouldn’t be that much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Can lose anyone but 17 and 14 and I'll be ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I’d move on from Oliver and Davis if a good trade offer comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I think it's always been Poyer. They'll want to keep younger core guys. I'm not that keen on Oliver either, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Wizard said: That's because Edmund's is a solid player but the knock is he is a tick behind on instincts and processing. Would I want him back? Absolutely? Do I want him back for 15+ million per? No...not unless that comes with an O-Line, a 2nd receiver, a healthy Von Miller, and 2 new coordinators. Acquiring his replacement needs to be a top level priority. Keep him, whatever.. because he’s not the worst player on the defensive, but don’t pretend he’s the answer. He’s not. He ALWAYS gets bodied by a slower OLinemen, and then he follows the runningback ten yards down field, within totally mauling position, and refuses to maul, then the RB falls down or gets hit by an incoming Bills defender, and Edmunds touches the RB when he’s already on the ground. Gain of 12. Soooooo sick of him and Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Can lose anyone but 17 and 14 and I'll be ok Shakir looked good too. While it's on my mind, Gabe Davis can go. He looks so disinterested in playing sometimes. 4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I think it's always been Poyer. They'll want to keep younger core guys. I'm not that keen on Oliver either, though. Oliver is drawing triple teams by the looks of it. Edited January 22, 2023 by Roundybout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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