Josh McDaniels doesn’t rule out benching Derek Carr

[MAJBobby]

Another HC spot for McDaniels and ANOTHER what looks like Flaming failure. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. 
 

and the fact HE got another shot before Frazier is DISGUSTING. 

[Utah John]

McDaniels has been dispatched by Belichick to sabotage two teams in the AFCW.  Mission accomplished, sir, now may I come back to NE and rescue the offense from Patricia?

 

So OK, I'm not a fan of either of McDaniels's victims, but I sure hope we can convince Kansas City to dump Reid and replace him with McDaniels sometime soon.

[Breakout Squad]

3 hours ago, prissythecat said:

dont jets players pay NJ taxes rather than NY taxes 

Yup because they play in NJ not NY. Don’t tell him though he’s on a roll. 

[Utah John]

6 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Why do u wanna see a good QB go to the Dolphins there our competition? 

I would be delighted to see a merely good QB with the Dolphins.  Having a merely good QB is a ticket to 9-8 and a mighty struggle to get into the playoffs.  Having a bad QB is a ticket to 4-13 or worse (better?) which looks pretty rosy at draft time.  There are four excellent QBs in the AFC, we all know who they are, and only those four teams have a legitimate chance at the SB.

[SoCal Deek]

So we’re saying that Adams left Green Bay this year to go play with Carr, his college teammate, and now Carr is leaving Vegas to go to New York. There’s a reality TV show waiting to be made here. 

[Utah John]

1 minute ago, Breakout Squad said:

Yup because they play in NJ not NY. Don’t tell him though he’s on a roll. 

They also live in NJ.  I got to know a former NJ Giant this fall, and he said ALL the players live in NJ.  He said NYC is far too expensive for all but the highest paid players, and it's a hassle to get out of NYC and get to East Rutherford for practice and games.  

[gonzo1105]

He'd only bench Carr because he feels hes not the answer but doesn't want him winning more games. He wants a QB next year in the draft and as we know the lower you are the harder it is to get a good one. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

7 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Why do u wanna see a good QB go to the Dolphins there our competition? 

Derek Carr good QB?? Have you watched him recently??

[peterpan]

12 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Welp, McDaniels will be joining Patricia and Judge soon enough back home. 
 

I can’t believe how these former pats assistants all have failed spectacularly. I don’t think Bellichick has a single successful assistant from his coaching tree (I don’t count Vrabel, who never coached under him). 

Because their success was 99% from cheating. 

[ColoradoBills]

9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

The problem for them is that they are presently in line to draft 9th and all 8 of the teams ahead of them are potential Quarterback teams (Arizona probably not but not impossible). Most people think there are 3, at a push 4, potential round 1 Quarterbacks in this class. To get one they almost certainly need to lose out and even then might need to swing a trade up. The Cardinals or the Bears might be willing to take a bounty of picks to slide back and start patching up some of their roster holes.

 

I see the Raiders screwed in trying to get one of the top 3 QBs.

 

Texans and Seahawks will get the first 2.  The Seahawks (with Denver's pick) can out trade anyone wanting to get to the Bears pick.

So, the way I see it, ALL the other QB needy teams will be fighting for the 3rd ranked guy.

With the Colts and Falcons ahead of Raiders, I don't see LV getting #3.

 

If the Bears are smart (and not too greedy) they could trade down twice and still end up with the 2nd best non-QB player in the draft!

Once with Seattle so the Seahawks lock QB2, and then with the Colts or Falcons (whoever is slotted after the Cardinals).

[GunnerBill]

I tend to agree. In which case their best play is keep Derek Carr and have a go at playing some defense...

[Big Blitz]

 

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Really interested to see what the plan for a replacement is.

[17islongenough]

11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

So Derek Carr will be in Blue and White next year?

[Tenhigh]

4 hours ago, Breakout Squad said:

Yup because they play in NJ not NY. Don’t tell him though he’s on a roll. 

[Sestak4ever]

Maybe send him to Houston to pick up where his brother David left off.😆

[ColoradoBills]

27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Really interested to see what the plan for a replacement is.

 

Maybe they tear it all down.  Hard to imagine they can compete with the Chiefs and Chargers with someone less talented than Carr.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

On 12/28/2022 at 5:32 PM, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Derek Carr good QB?? Have you watched him recently??

He’s definitely a good QB not great or elite but good yes. Looks like he didn’t fit McDaniels system very well he had a off year but that doesn’t mean he’s not good

[TBBills]

On 12/28/2022 at 9:45 AM, SoCal Deek said:

So we’re saying that Adams left Green Bay this year to go play with Carr, his college teammate, and now Carr is leaving Vegas to go to New York. There’s a reality TV show waiting to be made here. 

Adams left b.c of money them being college teammates was a coincidence. 

2 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

He’s definitely a good QB not great or elite but good yes. Looks like he didn’t fit McDaniels system very well he had a off year but that doesn’t mean he’s not good

He has never been that good

 

[Bobby Hooks]

21 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Adams left b.c of money them being college teammates was a coincidence. 

He has never been that good

 

I mean, maybe he’s lying but he just flat out said he went to the Raiders because of Carr. 
 

“"Obviously, I don't think anybody was excited about it in here," Adams said, via Levi Edwards of the Raiders. "Him being one of my really good friends and the reason why I came here in the first place. I mean, I wouldn't be here right now if he wasn't here. I think everybody knows how I feel about him. With that said, this is the process of how things go, and I'm not gonna sit here and go on and on, but obviously I support my guy, and we gotta finish the season out the best way we can possible with all things considered at this point."”

Edited December 29, 2022 by Bobby Hooks

[TBBills]

14 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

I mean, maybe he’s lying but he just flat out said he went to the Raiders because of Carr. 
 

“"Obviously, I don't think anybody was excited about it in here," Adams said, via Levi Edwards of the Raiders. "Him being one of my really good friends and the reason why I came here in the first place. I mean, I wouldn't be here right now if he wasn't here. I think everybody knows how I feel about him. With that said, this is the process of how things go, and I'm not gonna sit here and go on and on, but obviously I support my guy, and we gotta finish the season out the best way we can possible with all things considered at this point."”

You're right b.c it would be the first time ever a player would say something for PR purposes.

[Scott7975]

23 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Really interested to see what the plan for a replacement is.

Bombshell trade to NE for Mac Jones 🤣

[Bobby Hooks]

17 minutes ago, TBBills said:

You're right b.c it would be the first time ever a player would say something for PR purposes.

What could he possibly gain from that? 

[TBBills]

32 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

What could he possibly gain from that? 

More than saying he did it for the money. Come on man don't be gullible. 

 

Guess you believed Tyreek Hills comments on Tua also when he went to the Dolphins. Hahahaha

Edited December 29, 2022 by TBBills

[NastyNateSoldiers]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

Adams left b.c of money them being college teammates was a coincidence. 

He has never been that good

 

He’s a top 15 QB that’s good 

[TBBills]

7 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

He’s a top 15 QB that’s good 

Isn't it fun to think a QB is good when they aren't. Tua must be heading to the HoF than.

Edited December 29, 2022 by TBBills

[Bobby Hooks]

38 minutes ago, TBBills said:

More than saying he did it for the money. Come on man don't be gullible. 

 

Guess you believed Tyreek Hills comments on Tua also when he went to the Dolphins. Hahahaha

Do you always laugh maniacally after finishing your thought, or is that an internet thing? 
 

Either way it gives me a big ol’ case of the creeps. 

[TBBills]

7 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

Do you always laugh maniacally after finishing your thought, or is that an internet thing? 
 

Either way it gives me a big ol’ case of the creeps. 

I was laughing at the fact you take everything seriously, just like now... on the internet. Are you Derek's parents or something you seem to care a lot about this guy.

Whatever team makes the wrong decision and picks him up will just be getting a worse draft pick the year after b/c that is all a QB like him can give you.

Edited December 29, 2022 by TBBills

[BuffaloBills1998]

31 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

He’s a top 15 QB that’s good 

At this point I think he’s no better than top 20. Top 15 is being overly generous. Guy had Davante and the best running back in the league and still couldn’t get it done. 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

10 hours ago, TBBills said:

Isn't it fun to think a QB is good when they aren't. Tua must be heading to the HoF than.

Isn’t fun for u to act like u know football when u obviously don’t? Carr is a 3 time pro bowl QB has thrown for over 35,000 yds in his career . Last season he lead his team to 7 come back victories and almost defeated the Bengals on the road in the wildcard game. Since 2015 he has the most 4th quarter comeback victories in the NFL (23) and most game winning drives (29) . He’s a good QB NOT GREAT NOT ELITE do u know the difference? 

[GunnerBill]

12 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

At this point I think he’s no better than top 20. Top 15 is being overly generous. Guy had Davante and the best running back in the league and still couldn’t get it done. 

 

And produced a solid offense. The problem with the Raiders this year (and every other year) is their defense. They had a defense ranked in the top half of the league on EITHER yards or points ONCE in Carr's time as their QB. Last year. And he made the playoffs. 

 

I am not telling anyone Derek Carr is elite. He clearly isn't. But he isn't even among the top 5 issues with the Raiders. To be so inept on defense for so long is really hard in this league. 

[machine gun kelly]

I was a little surprised when the news broke Carr not only was benched, but in addition was shipped home.  
 

He’ll find another job, and will be an average QB.

[Rochesterfan]

17 hours ago, TBBills said:

You're right b.c it would be the first time ever a player would say something for PR purposes.

 

16 hours ago, TBBills said:

More than saying he did it for the money. Come on man don't be gullible. 

 

Guess you believed Tyreek Hills comments on Tua also when he went to the Dolphins. Hahahaha

 

 

Well - if he did it for the Money - why didn’t he stay in GB.  Pat was talking about that on his show - how GB offered Adams more money, but what Adams wanted and was looking for (along with the money) was playing with a stable QB that they could build something around.

 

Adams talked about being sick of Rodgers and the yearly retirement and FA talk and decided to leave to go play with his college teammates that just signed a long term contract.  They even talked on the show about whether he was going to come back or try to work his way out of LV to go play where Carr lands.

 

So I guess I do not believe Money was the only reason and I think the Raiders screwed him by making this move.  I think he legitimately wanted to play with Carr and wanted them to be a team for several years.

 

Adams also worked to get a head of the questions with the reporters and he certainly did not look like what he was saying was PR related - he was legitimately hurt that Carr was benched and sent home - he looked angry and frustrated with the situation.

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Amazing how only McDaniels can take a QB that just threw for 4800 yards last year and run him into the ground. The Patriot Way. Good luck with Stidman! 

[f0neguy]

Well, if Adams wants to go to a team that’s building something with a stable QB situation I can think of a team.

[PatsFanNH]

On 12/27/2022 at 11:28 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Welp, McDaniels will be joining Patricia and Judge soon enough back home. 
 

I can’t believe how these former pats assistants all have failed spectacularly. I don’t think Bellichick has a single successful assistant from his coaching tree (I don’t count Vrabel, who never coached under him). 

Saban is his only success I can think of.. what’s odd is he has a few GMs from his coaching tree. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

13 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Saban is his only success I can think of.. what’s odd is he has a few GMs from his coaching tree. 

I don’t count Saban because he was never able to have success at the NFL level. He is a great college recruiter; but he never proved himself to be a good coach in the NFL.

 

I think the reality is that the Patriot Way cannot be replicated.

[PatsFanNH]

13 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I don’t count Saban because he was never able to have success at the NFL level. He is a great college recruiter; but he never proved himself to be a good coach in the NFL.

 

I think the reality is that the Patriot Way cannot be replicated.

The problem Is to many of them act like BB and not themselves. Also the Patriot way is simple.. have a great QB and give him average talent on O that he can lift up while spending more money on the D and special Teams..  the scary part is I can’t think of a great Young QB who doesn’t have at least one elite WR/TE with them.. 

[Captain Hindsight]

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/06/10/and-the-best-qb-in-the-afc-east-is-jarrett-stidham-of-the-patriots/amp/

 

 

[MJS]

On 12/28/2022 at 3:03 AM, Nelius said:

Is Carr now a better representative of QB purgatory than Kirk Cousins? I don't know man, I hate Kirk Cousins so much, but this year has been a doozy. I think Carr is the new poster boy.

Why would you hate Kirk Cousins so much?