Deadstroke Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Hey, I'm a homer and been loving and defending my team for many years. I'm usually always in a player's corner when he may be questioned for underperforming; but this thing with Tre has gone on too long. The latest reports now have him fully healthy but perhaps not too confident of his health/current abilities. He's getting paid a ton of money and it's time to earn it now when the team really need him. The pass defense is getting abused big time. It's time for Tre to show up and help out. 2 5 2 4 9 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 You sound like someone who has torn their ACL while playing a position in the NFL that requires a lot of lateral movement. How did your recovery go? 11 1 19 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Deadstroke said: Hey, I'm a homer and been loving and defending my team for many years. I'm usually always in a player's corner when he may be questioned for underperforming; but this thing with Tre has gone on too long. The latest reports now have him fully healthy but perhaps not too confident of his health/current abilities. He's getting paid a ton of money and it's time to earn it now when the team really need him. The pass defense is getting abused big time. It's time for Tre to show up and help out. I think you need to clarify what those "latest reports" to which you refer are about. I think those "latest reports" are all speculation from outside the building - you know, the same sources that had Allen out for 3-4 weeks with a UCL 4 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I agree. however, if they force him on the field, he may play like crap which could not only hurt his confidence, but also his relationship with the team. Right now it’s a lose-lose situation. I’d strongly consider placing him on IR 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 This post is a drunken post-game WGR call come to life. 5 1 7 15 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) He could be anywhere from looking awesome and ready to go after another week or all the way to he is getting smoked on every play in practice and that is why he will not be activated. Some recover perfectly others never. Nobody knows for sure until Trey or McD comes out and says this is the deal. Like it or not, this is what it is. Edited November 21, 2022 by Lagoon Blues 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 It feels pretty unlikely that it's White keeping himself off the field. My guess is that the coaching staff aren't prepared to risk him with the level of play he's showing in practice, maybe he's not playing markedly better than Jackson/Benford/Elam yet. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Unlikely he plays this week. I would think the following week 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Because we really need the roster spot? For who? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Yeah, let’s put the guy who’s not confident enough to play out there just because it’s time to take a dump. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Thursday night at New England He needs a tune up game before the Dolphins. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: It feels pretty unlikely that it's White keeping himself off the field. My guess is that the coaching staff aren't prepared to risk him with the level of play he's showing in practice, maybe he's not playing markedly better than Jackson/Benford/Elam yet. I think you missed McD’s thoughts on this from a few days ago. “At some point you just have to go.” I think the decision is entirely Tre’s and the organization has been supportive and in his corner up until this point. The longer this draws out, you start to see chinks in that support, especially with teammates playing under various ailments. 4 8 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, JayBaller10 said: I think you missed McD’s thoughts on this from a few days ago. “At some point you just have to go.” I think the decision is entirely Tre’s and the organization has been supportive and in his corner up until this point. The longer this draws out, you start to see chinks in that support, especially with teammates playing under various ailments. I did miss that, thanks for the quote. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Logic said: This post is a drunken post-game WGR call come to life. Is it? There were posters saying that Eric Wood and Chris Brown were starting to question Tre White’s desire to start playing in yesterdays pre-game show. Edited November 21, 2022 by Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I think you need to clarify what those "latest reports" to which you refer are about. I think those "latest reports" are all speculation from outside the building - you know, the same sources that had Allen out for 3-4 weeks with a UCL The Injury report. He's not on it. He's physically healthy to play. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: Yeah, let’s put the guy who’s not confident enough to play out there just because it’s time to take a dump. Then IR him. If he’s physically ready and not taking the field just move on. Deal with it in the off-season. Edited November 21, 2022 by Beast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, whorlnut said: This is ridiculous. The point is he’s cleared How do you know this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: I think you missed McD’s thoughts on this from a few days ago. “At some point you just have to go.” I think the decision is entirely Tre’s and the organization has been supportive and in his corner up until this point. The longer this draws out, you start to see chinks in that support, especially with teammates playing under various ailments. Not only that but apparently Eric Wood and Chris Brown were calling him out on the pregame show yesterday and saying he is letting the team down. If they're saying that you know it's true. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Because we really need the roster spot? For who? I hear Turken McGerken is available. Lots of flexibility, can play on the wing and has lots of leg in case we need an emergency kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Because we really need the roster spot? For who? Considering we have 4 active receivers, I'd say WR is an important spot that needs players..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, BillyBilliams said: The Injury report. He's not on it. He's physically healthy to play. Players go on the injury report when....wait for it...they're injured in a game and receiving treatment, or are limited and don't fully participate in practice. Players coming off IR or PUP do NOT go on injury report for the same injury when they are practicing fully (and possibly still receiving "routine" treatments). "Practicing fully" does not necessarily mean "performing better than Elam and Benford in practice" 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: How do you know this? Because he's on the active roster and is not on the injury report. If he was not cleared, the Buffalo Bills would be violating NFL rules and would lose draft picks if he wasn't. These inactive are also known as "Healthy Scratches." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I have not been at practice, nor have I sat in on all his meetings with trainers and doctors. Therefore, I have no desire to have a firm yet completely uninformed opinion. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Beck Water said: How do you know this? I don’t think it’s too hard to figure out with White having been back at practice a while, McDermott and Eric Woods and Chris Brown’s comments. It appears all about confidence at this point. He’s physically ready but not mentally. IMO, it’s time he plays or goes on IR. And that is no bash on White. It’s just time to lace them up because the team needs you and you are physically ready or look forward to next season if he can’t mentally get over the hurdle. One or the other. Edited November 21, 2022 by Beast 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, BillyBilliams said: Considering we have 4 active receivers, I'd say WR is an important spot that needs players..... I see 5 active WR on yesterday's gameday roster. Strangely enough, this was achieved through NFL rules without the need to inactivate Tre White on IR. 1 minute ago, BillyBilliams said: Because he's on the active roster and is not on the injury report. If he was not cleared, the Buffalo Bills would be violating NFL rules and would lose draft picks if he wasn't. These inactive are also known as "Healthy Scratches." See above. This is not correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Players go on the injury report when....wait for it...they're injured in a game and receiving treatment, or are limited and don't fully participate in practice. Players coming off IR or PUP do NOT go on injury report for the same injury when they are practicing fully (and possibly still receiving "routine" treatments). "Practicing fully" does not necessarily mean "performing better than Elam and Benford in practice" So you agree then? He's physically able to play. Nobody is saying we want 50 snaps. Putting him in for 10-15 snaps a game isn't asking for a lot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Augie said: I have not been at practice, nor have I sat in on all his meetings with trainers and doctors. Therefore, I have no desire to have a firm yet completely uninformed opinion. You Contrarian Rascal, You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Beast said: Is it? There were posters saying that Eric Wood and Chris Brown were starting to question Tre White’s desire to start playing in yesterdays pre-game show. Transcript? Not that I'm saying some posters are unreliable in interpretation of events. But I'd love to read or hear exactly what they said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I know the OP is getting slammed for the post but the more this goes on the less wrong he is. You have teammates getting shot up with painkillers to get through a game and despite being healthy you aren't mentally ready? This isn't MLB or Basketball where teams can afford rest games for their stars. Its time for Tre to play. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: I see 5 active WR on yesterday's gameday roster. Strangely enough, this was achieved through NFL rules without the need to inactivate Tre White on IR. See above. This is not correct. It is correct. He's being considered a healthy scratch. Just like A.J. Klein is. And if you're trying to do a "gotcha" thing with Tanner Gentry, you're a fool. Absolutely no way they'd line him up in a WR role. He's nothing more than a ST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Motorin' said: Transcript? Not that I'm saying some posters are unreliable in interpretation of events. But I'd love to read or hear exactly what they said. When is the last time you read a transcript of what was said on the radio during a Bills pre-game show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: I know the OP is getting slammed for the post but the more this goes on the less wrong he is. You have teammates getting shot up with painkillers to get through a game and despite being healthy you aren't mentally ready? This isn't MLB or Basketball where teams can afford rest games for their stars. Its time for Tre to play. I've been getting slammed for 2 weeks now. I'm feeling more and more proud of my stance as each game passes. Right now Tre White is $17M in dead cap for this team. It's preventing us from being a serious contender for OBJ. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, BillyBilliams said: So you agree then? He's physically able to play. Nobody is saying we want 50 snaps. Putting him in for 10-15 snaps a game isn't asking for a lot. No, that's not what I said. Being uninjured does not mean "physically able to play a game at a level better than the other DB can put forth right now". Giving a guy 10-15 snaps a game is a luxury of preseason. If a guy is on the active gameday roster, the Bills need to believe he can play a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Great, another Tre' is a puss thread. All you weekend warriors who are willing to jeopardize his knee can go ***** yourselves. 1 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, BillyBilliams said: It is correct. He's being considered a healthy scratch. Just like A.J. Klein is. And if you're trying to do a "gotcha" thing with Tanner Gentry, you're a fool. Absolutely no way they'd line him up in a WR role. He's nothing more than a ST. So IR Tre White so we can sign the next great practice squad wr. Maybe we can talk Jerry Rice out of retirement? So it's Tre White plays on Thursday or he's preventing us from signing Jerry Rice... Got it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, warrior9 said: You sound like someone who has torn their ACL while playing a position in the NFL that requires a lot of lateral movement. How did your recovery go? ...and you sound like it's your money. Is that you, Terry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Beast said: When is the last time you read a transcript of what was said on the radio during a Bills pre-game show? Does GR archive the recordings to listen to? Idk, I've never looked. But I'd legitimately love to hear what was actually said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Motorin' said: So IR Tre White so we can sign the next great practice squad wr. Maybe we can talk Jerry Rice out of retirement? So it's Tre White plays on Thursday or he's preventing us from signing Jerry Rice... Got it. At least that practice squad player will be on the field trying to play for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I love Tre, but dude needs to get back on the field, or let us find someone who actually wants to play football. 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, BillyBilliams said: At least that practice squad player will be on the field trying to play for this team. Where's Duke Williams these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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