balln Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Do the Bills have the worst TE's in the league? Or do they just not throw to them? After Diggs, this team has nobody unfortunately Depth wise - maybe oj Howard was a whiff by pro player scouting I think they had some TEs (isiah likely?) targeted in draft that fell thru 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: Hodgins has already been stolen. He's a giant now. We complained when Hodgins was here. Our issues aren’t WR3-WR5. In fact we are good offensively besides Allen making bad redzone decisions. Our problem WR wise is we’re all Diggs. The other WRs are just complimentary pieces. Gabe Davis has proven to be a complimentary piece instead of a true WR2 with WR1 potential. Every WR after Diggs is limited. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 🤔 * (It was either him, or Duke Williams, and Duke's tied up with the Christmas rush at Canadian Tire.) Edited November 18, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 They are saving a spot for OBJ…… Cook lines up as a WR. Knox can play in a WR spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We complained when Hodgins was here. Our issues aren’t WR3-WR5. In fact we are good offensively besides Allen making bad redzone decisions. Our problem WR wise is we’re all Diggs. The other WRs are just complimentary pieces. Gabe Davis has proven to be a complimentary piece instead of a true WR2 with WR1 potential. Every WR after Diggs is limited. Completely agree. Most fans want to talk themselves into thinking Davis is a true WR2. He’s not. Joe Marino said it best when he said that he was better as a WR4 or 5. He’s a very solid player, but he doesn’t run good routes if he can’t get vertical. We definitely need to upgrade there this off-season. I can’t see us paying Davis once his rookie deal is up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I know I should be concerned about only one healthy NFL caliber receiver but then I gaze over at the defensive line and see 20 guys all fresh and ready to play their 15 snaps this Sunday and all my troubles drift away. ***** thats a sweet rotation. If we add a guy who can stop the run next year I can die happy. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Maybe Dawson Knox can chip in and dirty his uniform. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) Worry more about the guys we have stepping up. The only difference between them last year and this year (Other than certain injuries) is OC. It's fun to watch people overreact and blame random things but you need to look at the one actual huge change that happened. Dorsey is trying to use too much at odd times in games. Edited November 18, 2022 by TBBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 We should go more 2 RB sets anyway. Force Allen to check it down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: I know I should be concerned about only one healthy NFL caliber receiver but then I gaze over at the defensive line and see 20 guys all fresh and ready to play their 15 snaps this Sunday and all my troubles drift away. ***** thats a sweet rotation. If we add a guy who can stop the run next year I can die happy. Is this sarcasm? Please tell me it’s sarcasm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, balln said: Marquez Stevenson maybe coming off IR is not the #4 wr this Super Bowl team should have. Crowder is legit injury. Point is beane and the team should have had more offseason wr depth / trade deadline focus. oR put hodgins on the roster so he doesn’t get stolen ? Do we really need Tyler Mattekavich or duke Johnson on the roster We needed Duke in short yardage last week👍🥲😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, TBBills said: Worry more about the guys we have stepping up. The only difference between them last year and this year (Other than certain injuries) is OC. It's fun to watch people overreact and blame random things but you need to look at the one actual huge change that happened. We had more talent at WR last year. Sanders was still very much serviceable and Beasley was an upgrade over our current slot situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesop Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Double TE sets, PS call up, Hines/Cook/Johnson get snaps in the slot. I am not worried. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: 🤔 * (It was either him, or Duke Williams, and Duke's tied up with the Christmas rush at Canadian Tire.) I'm old enough to remember when Drew Haddad was the answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, TBBills said: Worry more about the guys we have stepping up. The only difference between them last year and this year (Other than certain injuries) is OC. It's fun to watch people overreact and blame random things but you need to look at the one actual huge change that happened. And Sanders and Beasley who totaled 120 or so catches for 1,300 yards and 5 TDs. Thats a bit of a difference if we are getting picky... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, whorlnut said: We had more talent at WR last year. Sanders was still very much serviceable and Beasley was an upgrade over our current slot situation. Dorsey is trying to do too much at the wrong times. Crowder would have been fine but he got injured. Edited November 18, 2022 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Is this sarcasm? Please tell me it’s sarcasm. What part of that bothers you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: I know I should be concerned about only one healthy NFL caliber receiver but then I gaze over at the defensive line and see 20 guys all fresh and ready to play their 15 snaps this Sunday and all my troubles drift away. ***** thats a sweet rotation. If we add a guy who can stop the run next year I can die happy. But then can’t hold 2 and 3 score second half leads against the Jets or Vikings. 6 RBs active and the only guy with more then 5 touches is Singletary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Maybe Dawson Knox can chip in and dirty his uniform. I remember Dawson catching a few last game. Didn't help much in the end. Allen was pressing and redzone playcalling was bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 So many people out of their minds already. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Don’t you get it? We spent the second most money in the nfl on defensive personnel and the 18th most on offense. We only care about one side of the ball. We got a back at the trade deadline that doesn’t even see the field. This is the way this team rolls. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: What part of that bothers you? The part about being happy that we threw nearly every resource into the defense and you still want more. Meanwhile…the offense is patched together at best. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: But then can’t hold 2 and 3 score second half leads against the Jets or Vikings. 6 RBs active and the only guy with more then 5 touches is Singletary When assessing a defensive line its not the results on the field that matter. Its all about cultivating mass. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Over under on 3 passes in front of the line of scrimmage to our million active RB’s. Or maybe, who catches more forward passes? Our FB (Gilliam) or our 5 RBs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, whorlnut said: The part about being happy that we threw nearly every resource into the defense and you still want more. Meanwhile…the offense is patched together at best. Oh, you really don't understand sarcasm. I really couldn't have laid it on more thickly had I tried. Edited November 18, 2022 by Jauronimo 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, sunshynman said: I remember Dawson catching a few last game. Didn't help much in the end. Allen was pressing and redzone playcalling was bad. Allen presses because he lacks playmakers on his side of the ball. Diggs is elite but no one else is anywhere close. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Allen presses because he lacks playmakers on his side of the ball. Diggs is elite but no one else is anywhere close. He presses because his OL stinks. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I know it sounds crazy on the surface but I’m not completely joking. Personal BS aside, how improbable would it be for Beasley to give us 6-8 decent games here. I mean the guy played this season. It’s not as if he’s been on a couch for 2 years. I know it ended poorly and I know he lost a step. But the guys role is something that he can probably play in his sleep. Josh obviously trusted him a great deal. I’m my eyes it’s not inconceivable that he could give up 20/30 snaps a game. Just in this dire situation. We desperately need the underneath threat. OBJ isn’t coming…I’m sure the immediate response will be no shot but stranger things have happened. I’m not sure if Tampa still holds his rights 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I know it sounds crazy on the surface but I’m not completely joking. Personal BS aside, how improbable would it be for Beasley to give us 6-8 decent games here. I mean the guy played this season. It’s not as if he’s been on a couch for 2 years. I know it ended poorly and I know he lost a step. But the guys role is something that he can probably play in his sleep. Josh obviously trusted him a great deal. I’m my eyes it’s not inconceivable that he could give up 20/30 snaps a game. Just in this dire situation. We desperately need the underneath threat. OBJ isn’t coming…I’m sure the immediate response will be no shot but stranger things have happened. I’m not sure if Tampa still holds his rights Beasley isn't playing for anyone... what makes you think he would have made this team back when we had less injuries in TC? You do know he retired back in OCT... Edited November 18, 2022 by TBBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Allen presses because he lacks playmakers on his side of the ball. Diggs is elite but no one else is anywhere close. Wast a problem last year as much. The routes in the red zone are not good. No one is getting open. Dorsey needs to study last year's tapes. We schemed guys to be wide open in the RZ last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, Airseven said: He presses because his OL stinks. That’s a good point too and I agree. The entire offense needs looked at this off-season. I can’t stand the “rankings” argument. We had the number one defense last year and all anyone said in the off-season is it was misleading. Well…the offensive ranking this season is very misleading as well. We need upgrades before we waste Allen and Diggs. 1 minute ago, sunshynman said: Wast a problem last year as much. The routes in the red zone are not good. No one is getting open. Dorsey needs to study last year's tapes. We schemed guys to be wide open in the RZ last year. Good points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, whorlnut said: That’s a good point too and I agree. The entire offense needs looked at this off-season. I can’t stand the “rankings” argument. We had the number one defense last year and all anyone said in the off-season is it was misleading. Well…the offensive ranking this season is very misleading as well. We need upgrades before we waste Allen and Diggs. Yes oline is another issue. And agreed more talented route runners would help. But playcalling is the core issue currently. That a Josh never taking the dump offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, balln said: And w McKenzie sick. Only 3. Yet we pick up aj klein. come on beane ! I guess we'll just have to throw to our RBs and TEs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Don’t you get it? We spent the second most money in the nfl on defensive personnel and the 18th most on offense. We only care about one side of the ball. We got a back at the trade deadline that doesn’t even see the field. This is the way this team rolls. Toney was there for the taking for basically nothing. KC scooped him up and he paid dividends immediately. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, balln said: And w McKenzie sick. Only 3. Yet we pick up aj klein. come on beane ! Their top 2 are fine Diggs and Davis, plus Shakir. McKenzie is sick, not hurt or not dead, highly likely he'll be fine by Sunday. So realistically you're talking about not having a #5 WR for practice. The players on the PS do practice so they have enough players for practice so not an issue there it's just for Sunday is the issue. As many have said many times, the main reason Kumerow is on the team is for ST not WR play. They can easily bring someone up from the PS on Saturday if needed. On the other hand the starting LB Edmunds is out so yes signing a replacement for him is a much higher importance particularly after the showing the past two weeks of the backup LB's. Edited November 19, 2022 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Their top 2 are fine Diggs and Davis, plus Shakir. McKenzie is sick, not hurt or not dead, highly likely he'll be fine by Sunday. So realistically you're talking about not having a #5 WR for practice. The players on the PS do practice so they have enough players for practice so not an issue there it's just for Sunday is the issue. As many have said many times, the main reason Kumerow is on the team is for ST not WR play. They can easily bring someone up from the PS on Saturday if needed. On the other hand the starting LB Edmunds is out so yes signing a replacement for him is a much higher importance particularly after the showing the past two weeks of the backup LB's. Since you think you're so smart what would you have done, signed a WR today which means cutting or IR'ing some one else only to then cut the guy signed on Saturday once McKewnie is back. Hope you're enjoying getting laughed at by pretty much everyone here, if not maybe you should either think a little more or stop posting. What did this guy do to you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, TBBills said: Beasley isn't playing for anyone... what makes you think he would have made this team back when we had less injuries in TC? You do know he retired back in OCT... Yes that’s why I said TB might still technically have his rights. I don’t think he would have made it in TC. We have 4 healthy WRs right now. Obviously I’m speaking of now as things have clearly changed. I don’t see where TV has anything to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 31 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: What did this guy do to you? Yea. Yeesh. This came from Wgr am show thought it was a good topic. I’m not going to spend 3 hours thinking out in detail before posting on a silly Internet forum on bills topics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 In Dorsey's offense, we only use 2 WR anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: We should go more 2 RB sets anyway. Force Allen to check it down. haha. I can see it now. No receivers line up, and we have 4 RBs all go out and run check down routes. “your move, Mr. Allen. Your move.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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