ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Saleh going back on his word. https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/robert-saleh-buffalo-bills-jared-mayden/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 24 hours. Meh. Non-story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Has anyone verified that this actually happens or is it just urban legend? Honestly what does a guy like this know that the opposing coaches don't already know from film study? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Yes, they had a competitive advantage. It was wanting the game more than the Bills. 5 1 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Has anyone verified that this actually happens or is it just urban legend? Honestly what does a guy like this know that the opposing coaches don't already know from film study? Defensive calls and signals would be a big help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, Herc11 said: Defensive calls and signals would be a big help. I think the question is if this particular guy would have had access to that info while on the Bills. Mayden spent less than a month on our practice squad. Would he really know more about the Bills playcalling/signals than the opposition could learn from watching film ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Yes, they had a competitive advantage. It was wanting the game more than the Bills. The Jets had this game circled on their schedule. All week long the buildup in the NYC area was can the Jets hang in there with the best team in the division. The Bills have to understand they will get everyone's best shot especially from the division. Edited November 9, 2022 by Greg S 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) Saleh taking a page from Belicheat's playbook. Dude used to do it all the time, then cut the player as soon as the game ended. The NFL got wise to that cheating, so now you have to keep a guy like this on the active roster for a few weeks. Belicheat famously did this with Jonathan "Fast Freddie" Smith. This was another "let's screw the Bills over once, then change the rules so it doesn't happen again" scenario. Shame on Saleh for stooping to Belicheat's level, especially if you've pledged not to do it. Edited November 9, 2022 by Freddie's Dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I knew there was a reason Allen threw 2 bonehead INT's. Mystery solved. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, Herc11 said: Defensive calls and signals would be a big help. Yeah. Remember Opening Day in Buffalo when Bills signed Lawyer Malloy. 31-0. Sam Adams big day against the Pats* w/Bills* in 2003 against future SuperBowl Champions. Brady looked horrible when Bills knew the plays! 9 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Saleh taking a page from Belicheat's playbook. Dude used to do it all the time, then cut the player as soon as the game ended. The NFL got wise to that cheating, so now you have to keep a guy like this on the active roster for a few weeks. Belicheat famously did this with Jonathan "Fast Freddie" Smith. This was another "let's screw the Bills over once, then change the rules so it doesn't happen again" scenario. Shame on Saleh for stooping to Belicheat's level, especially if you've pledged not to do it. Bills did it too... Opening Day 2003. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Cheating has become ethically accepted in all aspects of our society. "If you're not Cheating, you're not trying" "Its only cheating if you get caught" "I didn't see the Astros get punished" This is a sad commentary on what we're teaching future generations. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Aaron Maybin— still haunting us!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Cheating has become ethically accepted in all aspects of our society. "If you're not Cheating, you're not trying" "Its only cheating if you get caught" "I didn't see the Astros get punished" This is a sad commentary on what we're teaching future generations. But this isn't cheating. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gugny said: But this isn't cheating. Come on Gugny, I saw you jam weights down that Bass's throat. Edited November 9, 2022 by LABILLBACKER 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Nah. Bills were outcoached, outworked and Josh was average for much of the game. All that = a Bills loss. 4 or 5 plays made the difference. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gugny said: But this isn't cheating. Less than honorable to go against your word, but not cheating. Saleh is the first Muslim HC. I wonder what the "Owner's Manual" (IE: Quran) has to say about "honor" and your word? I know what the Bible says. I forgive you Robert Saleh! 😆 ~Matthew 6:14-15 "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." Edited November 9, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yeah. Remember Opening Day in Buffalo when Bills signed Lawyer Malloy. 31-0. Sam Adams big day against the Pats* w/Bills* in 2003 against future SuperBowl Champions. Brady looked horrible when Bills knew the plays! Bills did it too... Opening Day 2003. Oh man, I forgot that we cut Lawyer Milloy immediately after the game.... Edited November 9, 2022 by Freddie's Dead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 Dear Jesus... Please forgive Opening Day 2003 in Orchard Park, New York 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Cheating has become ethically accepted in all aspects of our society. "If you're not Cheating, you're not trying" "Its only cheating if you get caught" "I didn't see the Astros get punished" This is a sad commentary on what we're teaching future generations. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 how else do you explain Case Keenum on the Bills roster? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Cheating has become ethically accepted in all aspects of our society. "If you're not Cheating, you're not trying" "Its only cheating if you get caught" "I didn't see the Astros get punished" This is a sad commentary on what we're teaching future generations. How is this cheating? Is it against the rules? 15 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Less than honorable to go against your word, but not cheating. Saleh is the first Muslim HC. I wonder what the "Owner's Manual" (IE: Quran) has to say about "honor" and your word? I know what the Bible says. I forgive you Robert Saleh! 😆 ~Matthew 6:14-15 "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." He didn't promise never to do it. He said "I don't know if we would ever do that." Now he knows. The answer is: yes, he would do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 If it wasn't a mild form of cheating then the NFL would never have made the rule change forcing the acquired player to stay on the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 38 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: how else do you explain Case Keenum on the Bills roster? Good call! That's right, he played on the Vikings in 2017. 😏 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Less than honorable to go against your word, but not cheating. You expect honor in professional sports? Not cheating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 The Jets get more than enough on tape to make predictions on the Bills tendencies. I see this is a nothing burger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Gugny said: You expect honor in professional sports? Not cheating. Yeah... I am stickler for the small things. This ain't gate jumping at 0400 in Hammer's Lot! 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 The real competitive advantage the Jets had last Sunday was that their QB played better than ours. ~Fin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Gugny said: The real competitive advantage the Jets had last Sunday was that their QB played better than ours. ~Fin Easier to do when your safety is giving you the other teams defensive plays! Yeah... Josh still played like poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Teams do this all the time. The Bills have done it. It's called strategy, not cheating. Guarantee Jets O-coirdinator called his brother, the GB head coach to get some insight into our D too. It's just good coaching. There's nothing to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaru523 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I think Bobby "the Brain" Heenan said it best........"Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Both of Josh Allen's interceptions were thrown directly to defenders, with no chance of being completed. The Jets defense showed very little pressure, and the scheme really had nothing to do with either play. Just awful decisions by the quarterback which cost us the game. Both of Gabe Davis' drops came with good coverage. But they were both still plays that should have been made, including the final pass of the game that should have put us into field goal range. The defensive scheme also had nothing to do with horrible call that negated Tremaine Edmunds INT, the missed field goal by Tyler Bass or the poor tackling that resulted in multiple first downs and extended drives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Saleh going back on his word. https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/robert-saleh-buffalo-bills-jared-mayden/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Jets advantage had more to do with players, coaching, game plan, and execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 No team starting Zach Wilson at QB has a competitive advantage. In true Bills fashion, we brought our C game to the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Bills did it too... Opening Day 2003. Difference was Buffalo didn't do it solely to gain info. Milloy actually was on the roster,, played, and wasn't cut after the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yeah. Remember Opening Day in Buffalo when Bills signed Lawyer Malloy. 31-0. Sam Adams big day against the Pats* w/Bills* in 2003 against future SuperBowl Champions. Brady looked horrible when Bills knew the plays! Bills did it too... Opening Day 2003. Nfl teams change their signals all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Nfl teams change their signals all the time Yeah. That's why Pats* won the last game in 2003 against the Bills by the same exact score they lost to Bills on Opening Day in Orchard Park: 31-0. That's weird! 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yeah. That's why Pats* won the last game in 2003 against the Bills by the same exact score they lost to Bills on Opening Day in Orchard Park: 31-0. That's weird! 😆 So why wouldn’t we be able to use the same signals and kick their ass again? Because good teams change them all the time You really think coaches use the same signals week in and week out? High school baseball coaches don’t even use the same steal sign for seven innings lol Edited November 9, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: So why wouldn’t we be able to use the same signals and kick their ass again? Because good teams change them all the time You really think coaches use the same signals week in and week out? High school baseball coaches don’t even use the same steal sign for seven innings lol Yeah... But then again, 2003 was in the "cord cutting" era... The Cheaters, took things a step further. Who knows what they were doing. 5 years later they were accused of jamming signals, intercepting headsets, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Good call! That's right, he played on the Vikings in 2017. 😏 zackly!! AND we have Cleveland on the 20th! He's a goldmine! Edited November 9, 2022 by Mr. WEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.