boyst Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: I would do it for a 5th and McKenzie. But then use him like a slot receiver/chess piece. Do NOT slam him into the back of Bates and Stafford 15x/game. i have been on the fence WRT McKenzie. I don't know what opportunity he adds to the Panthers to help a rebuild. McKenzie by most measurables is a JAG. He has an X-factor that shows up from time to time like the Patriots game. I would be willing to package McKenzie with a 5th for CMC. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 36 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: First of all, Carolina is probably already going to have the 32nd pick. Them or the Lions. Here is my offer........CMC and a 7th.......for a Bills 6th. People thinking a rental running back will bring back anything close to a first round pick is just absurd. Beane overdrafts RB's but he isn't that out of touch with the cost of doing business. how do you avoid the vomit emoji's for saying essentially the same thing I'm saying? LOL Some of these posters are desperate to give up our #1 pick! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: Dobson is not going anywhere in a trade. not with milano's history of injury being a factor as well as just not happening. Plus I don't see the Panthers looking for players in return for their fire sale. Imo, they'd be looking for picks to build on next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Clearly we're interested. Way too much smoke. How exactly are we fitting him in after this year? He has multiple years left on his contract. Can Carolina restructure and eat a bulk of it if we offer them a high enough draft pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Who is us in 2021? Is it us? I hope not Bengals. They won't go as far though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Why? I don't see anything special anymore. 72 for 324 rushing for a 4.5 avg, 18 1D, 2 TD 26 for 188 receiving for a 7.2 avg, 6 1D, 1 TD This dude with Josh Allen? Fuhgeddabottit. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said: And 11.8 million next year? Just now, SCBills said: Clearly we're interested. Way too much smoke. How exactly are we fitting him in after this year? He has multiple years left on his contract. Can Carolina restructure and eat a bulk of it if we offer them a high enough draft pick? Folks, read the thread. The money "issue" has been addressed. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Can Carolina restructure and eat a bulk of it if we offer them a high enough draft pick? It can only happen if they do this, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, cwater10 said: Would your offer change if you suspected that Miami and or KC was also in the bidding? Did CMC become an elite QB and I'm not aware? No? Then why the hell do I care of he goes to Miami? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This is why I'd give up a 1st + to keep him away from KC overpaying to keep an opponent from overpaying? ballsy strategy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: GIT 'R' DUN!!!!!!!!!!!! CMC would make us unstoppable. Why does he have to be called CMC? Why don't people call him Christian McCaffrey? They didn't call his dad EMC. They called him Ed McCaffrey. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: That said, Epenesa, Moss, Oliver, Singletary, and Siran Neal are players drafted by the Bills when Morgan was here. Would you give up Oliver? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Why does he have to be called CMC? Why don't people call him Christian McCaffrey? They didn't call his dad EMC. They called him Ed McCaffrey. It's a shortening of Run CMC, which was a take on Run DMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Beck Water said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffery-21749/ Yep - so looks like guarantees are just about paid up. $30M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2020 salary + $7.7M of 2021 salary) $8.1M of 2022 salary fully guarantees on 3/21/2021 (injury guaranteed now) $1M of 2023 salary guaranteed for injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I hope this happens, lets get that lombardi !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Folks, read the thread. The money "issue" has been addressed. Might need to edit my previous statement. I thought he’d be a lot more expensive than this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yes and no. We'd only owe him that if we kept him. None of that $11-12M is guaranteed. So the first approach is as a 1 year rental for $600k. If we wanted to keep him beyond that, we could make an offer at a restructure to give him some guaranteed money, but much less than $12M/yr. Point being, Beane has room to work his magic. And no one does it better. OK, but my point is - it isn't a 1 year rental for $600k. It's a 1 year rental for $600k plus whatever draft and player resources we send away to obtain him. One POV is "it's worth it - whatever it takes - sell off what you need to sell to get that final piece". I'm not sure that's Beane's POV (for better or worse). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Plus I don't see the Panthers looking for players in return for their fire sale. Imo, they'd be looking for picks to build on next year. Tepper is not your typical owner. He is a Wall Street guy. I think he will want at least one proven asset in return for CMC. I think Dodson and Singletary both are players that Morgan would recommend they could build around. I think the Bills view Dodson as a tweener - not quick enough or instinctual enough to take Milano's role and not large enough or with enough lateral quickness to take Edmunds role. The Bills drafted Bernard to groom into Milano's role. A replacement for Edmunds is not on the roster. Just my view. Edited October 10, 2022 by JoeF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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