Dawson Knox brother Luke passes away

[muppy]

Dawson Knox  and family are people of faith and devout Christians. They realize how far a reach and impact Luke had made in his life. So for even in town folks more so out of towners it just may be the best venue for they to view it is in a livestream. I actually took part in a Zoom celebration of life service before. I checked the link to this church it is massive with many campuses. I pray that what is spoken will be healing for the close friends and family especially. 

The donations to PUNT is for me not surprising knowing the Bills mafia fanbase. RIP Luke you were clearly very loved and by all accounts Ive read a great guy.

[Not at the table Karlos]

10 hours ago, wppete said:

Why? How would this backfire? I’ve got nothing but respect for Dawson right now in this horrible time. 

There's lots of reasons not to give out this info. The police advise people not to all the time. Not everyone is a nice caring individual some people are trash and see this as an opportunity to either rub elbows with a NFL player or break into homes. It happens all the time. People do stupid things when it comes to athletes. 

 

Also kind of odd that you took personal offence to it when you weren't singled out. Nobody said you didn't have respect for Dawson. 

Edited August 20, 2022 by Not at the table Karlos

[Beck Water]

10 hours ago, wppete said:

Why? How would this backfire? I’ve got nothing but respect for Dawson right now in this horrible time. 

 

Why?  Because some people are human trash - there's a reason funeral directors suggest to people they have whatever level of security they can afford watching their homes when visitation, services, and funeral take place.  Trash people say "hey, no one's home for sure, let's Hit It".  More than one family has come back from graveside to find their house burglarized.

 

When someone is famuos, some people are well-meaning but have no sense of propriety and might show up at a service to request or demand autographs.  Basically make a time of mourning for the Knox family into their chance to rub shoulders with fame.

 

It's not a question of respect for Dawson and his family, it's a question of trusting in the good will and common sense of their fellow man.

Edited August 20, 2022 by Beck Water

[StHustle]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

Why?  Because some people are human trash - there's a reason funeral directors suggest to people they have whatever level of security they can afford watching their homes when visitation, services, and funeral take place.  Trash people say "hey, no one's home, let's Hit It.

 

Other people are well-meaning but have no sense of propriety and might show up at a service to request or demand autographs.

 

It's not a question of respect for Dawson and his family, it's a question of trusting in the good will and common sense of their fellow man.

People of strong faith don’t worry about stuff like this bro.

[Beck Water]

9 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

 My sarcasmanotometer isn't always well calibrated but someone suggested that Dawson and his family might prefer to grieve in private and that the PUNT foundation donations might be somehow intrusive.  We see Dawson reaching out to share a link to a livestream of the memorial service and suggesting this an attempt to share their collective faith with a larger community.  So, sarcasm detected there.

 

No, no sarcasm.  I disagree with the critique of the PUNT donations - the Knox family doesn't have to look at that anytime if they don't want to, and when they do, they can see an outpouring of love.

 

But publicizing a specific funeral time and location can, and has in the past, gone very wrong in multiple ways for people.  It's not like a mob of fans showing up to seek autographs or be fan-girl at Dawson is something the family could just not see during his brother's service.  It doesn't even have to be a mob, 1 or 2 disruptive people can play heck with an event. 

 

I hope that isn't something the Knox family has to experience, that's all.

 

The livestream is a nice idea, except that if part of the intent is to allow Knox family and friends who can't attend physically to take part, I hope they have the bandwidth or a contingency plan if too many people are watching.

Edited August 20, 2022 by Beck Water

[muppy]

43 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

No, no sarcasm.  I disagree with the critique of the PUNT donations - the Knox family doesn't have to look at that anytime if they don't want to, and when they do, they can see an outpouring of love.

 

But publicizing a specific funeral time and location can, and has in the past, gone very wrong in multiple ways for people.  It's not like a mob of fans showing up to seek autographs or be fan-girl at Dawson is something the family could just not see during his brother's service.  It doesn't even have to be a mob, 1 or 2 disruptive people can play heck with an event. 

 

I hope that isn't something the Knox family has to experience, that's all.

 

The livestream is a nice idea, except that if part of the intent is to allow Knox family and friends who can't attend physically to take part, I hope they have the bandwidth or a contingency plan if too many people are watching.

I don't have the mindset of a creep as you are describing whom would have the audacity to want to disrupt or crash a memorial service or rob someone who is attending a service. That right there are some wacked people indeed. If security needs be enhanced to ward off any of these type individuals  I'm all for it. I honestly didnt think of the creep factor when I heard it was a live stream. I will add to my prayers a plea for that NOT to happen.

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

 

[Warcodered]

 

 

[boater]

9 hours ago, Since1981 said:

My mom passed last month. At first we were private, shock, then shortly later when people came out from corners of her life…To see donations…made us happy.

My condolences. It's still within years of Mom & Dad passing and it still stings.

 

Prayers to the Knox family. Losing someone too young must be triply heart breaking.

[Warcodered]

 

[Apocalypse Nuts]

Tragedy like this reminds us that we have an amazing opportunity to contribute to great charities these days at the click of a button and Bills Mafia is the best in the world at stepping up in just such an occasion.  You all have inspired me so much that I donated $100 to the P.U.N,T. Foundation yesterday without pause.   G-damn it Iove being a now-32 year member of Bills Mafia!!!!!!!!

 

I couldn’t imagine being part of a better group of people!!!!!!  ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

[Buffalo716]

21 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

Who is this joe miller ? And is he the pastor of the church because he is saying our like he is part of it 

 

Because I can’t see Bill’s players regularly attending the same  mass in Tennessee all the time

 

 

 

Edited August 21, 2022 by Buffalo716

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Who is this joe miller ? And is he the pastor of the church because he is saying our like he is part of it 

 

Because unless the church is in Buffalo, I can’t see it being regularly attended by bills players all the time 

 

 

 

 

I think it probably is Buffalo area, the author of the previous tweet deleted theirs and that church isn't the one Knox talked about in his tweet, so this is honestly unrelated I think.

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Warcodered said:

I think it probably is Buffalo area, the author of the previous tweet deleted theirs and that church isn't the one Knox talked about in his tweet, so this is honestly unrelated I think.

Ok Because I thought Knox’s brothers mass was in Tennessee

 

So I thought it would be strange that bills players would regularly attend mass in Tennessee that they would have to make an announcement

[The Dean]

 

[Beast]

13 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Who is this joe miller ? And is he the pastor of the church because he is saying our like he is part of it 

 

Because I can’t see Bill’s players regularly attending the same  mass in Tennessee all the time

 

 

 

 

Yes, he is a Pastor. He's a good guy. He has a pod cast that John Fina is often on. His uncle, Jeff Miller, also is an NFL historian and has authored many Buffalo Bills publications. They were raised on football and are both incredibly good people.

[Beck Water]

16 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Luke Knox funeral was at Christ Presbyterian Church in Tenn

 

Life Church is a large "nondenominational" (but kind of fundamentalist Baptist-like) church in Seneca, NY

 

Josh attending service there is not necessarily related to Luke's passing and funeral. He's quiet about his personal beliefs (as is his right) but that doesn't mean he doesn't have them.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[aristocrat]

 

[eball]

I imagine quite a few tears were shed in that locker room.  It's a close knit group.

 

Welcome back, Dawson.

[JDubya76]

On 8/22/2022 at 10:52 AM, YoloinOhio said:

 

That’s awesome, cheers Bills Fans!!

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Nextmanup]

Has any information regarding cause of death been reported anywhere?

I can't find anything.

 

 

[RoyBatty is alive]

So there is a walk at 10am on Saturday for Punt in his honor, fantastic!

[wppete]

3 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Has any information regarding cause of death been reported anywhere?

I can't find anything.

 

 

Still don’t understand how a healthy young elite athlete dies suddenly at the age of 22 and no one is asking why and how??? It’s perplexing.  Does the family know? What about the school? RIP young man and hope we learn something and don’t allow this to happen again. 

[Augie]

3 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Has any information regarding cause of death been reported anywhere?

I can't find anything.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, wppete said:

 

Still don’t understand how a healthy young elite athlete dies suddenly at the age of 22 and no one is asking why and how??? It’s perplexing.  Does the family know? What about the school? RIP young man and hope we learn something and don’t allow this to happen again. 

 

I believe they asked for privacy, and I’m inclined to give them just that. There would appear to be a short list of likely possibilities, but I don’t need to know. It won’t change anything and it won’t bring him back. Just like when Kim Pegula was ill, details are none of my business unless they want to share. Being a public figure is not all-encompassing. I just hope they can find peace in time. Losing a child is absolutely devastating. 

 

But maybe that’s just me…..

[RoyBatty is alive]

3 minutes ago, wppete said:

 

Still don’t understand how a healthy young elite athlete dies suddenly at the age of 22 and no one is asking why and how??? It’s perplexing.  Does the family know? What about the school? RIP young man and hope we learn something and don’t allow this to happen again. 

I assume it had something to do with pediatric cancer, maybe he is a survivor.  I for one really dont have any need to know, if they want to disclose it fine, they have suffered enough. They dont have a need to satisfy our curiosity, after all his brother was a "civilian".

[Beck Water]

16 minutes ago, wppete said:

Still don’t understand how a healthy young elite athlete dies suddenly at the age of 22 and no one is asking why and how??? It’s perplexing.  Does the family know? What about the school? RIP young man and hope we learn something and don’t allow this to happen again. 

 

There's a pretty short list of possibilities

 

I'm sure a lot of people are asking "why?" and "how?" but the family has requested privacy so that should be respected

Edited September 2, 2022 by Beck Water

[StHustle]

11 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I assume it had something to do with pediatric cancer, maybe he is a survivor.  I for one really dont have any need to know, if they want to disclose it fine, they have suffered enough. They dont have a need to satisfy our curiosity, after all his brother was a "civilian".

I highly doubt they would hide the reason if it was any type of cancer. I’m pretty sure they’d make a cause of it and point funds in the direction of finding a cure. It’s much for likely to be an overdose than cancer imo

[wppete]

1 minute ago, StHustle said:

I highly doubt they would hide the reason if it was any type of cancer. I’m pretty sure they’d make a cause of it and point funds in the direction of finding a cure. It’s much for likely to be an overdose than cancer imo

Have been reading up local news and it wasn’t cancer it was a sudden death over night and family doesn’t know why. Pretty shocking and sad. RIP young man. Dawson is a high character guy and I’m sure if there is any info that would help others in a similar situation he would speak and  give info the community. 

[Patrick Duffy]

9 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

 

I believe they asked for privacy, and I’m inclined to give them just that. There would appear to be a short list of likely possibilities, but I don’t need to know. It won’t change anything and it won’t bring him back. Just like when Kim Pegula was ill, details are none of my business unless they want to share. Being a public figure is not all-encompassing. I just hope they can find peace in time. Losing a child is absolutely devastating. 

 

But maybe that’s just me…..

 

Yup and I like you believe it should be respected. So many that don't though and someone will find out somehow and then the family may have to re-live it 

 

 

14 minutes ago, wppete said:

 

Still don’t understand how a healthy young elite athlete dies suddenly at the age of 22 and no one is asking why and how??? It’s perplexing.  Does the family know? What about the school? RIP young man and hope we learn something and don’t allow this to happen again. 

I don't see why they wouldn't......

[buffaloboyinATL]

45 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

There's a pretty short list of possibilities

 

You’ve clearly never watched CSI. 

[muppy]

SMH athletes succumb to death as will we all. Their family, their grief, their mourning and this new normal in their lives , dealing with it should trump any of our curiosities.  Also Their timeline as to how/when to disclose anything If ever

 

No matter what it was its freaking sad for family and friends. What a lovely positive tribute by our fanbase. WE ROCK

 

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[StHustle]

1 hour ago, muppy said:

SMH athletes succumb to death as will we all. Their family, their grief, their mourning and this new normal in their lives , dealing with it should trump any of our curiosities.  Also Their timeline as to how/when to disclose anything If ever

 

No matter what it was its freaking sad for family and friends. What a lovely positive tribute by our fanbase. WE ROCK

 

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It simply isn’t normal for a young fit kid to drop dead at 22. So when it happens of course people want to know why. When it’s kept secret it seems odd. People don’t normally hide cause of death if it was some ailment. Not sure how disclosing an ailment would bring further grief. There is a short list of causes of death that would bring further grief if made public. We all know what those are.

[ToGoGo]

1 minute ago, StHustle said:

It simply isn’t normal for a young fit kid to drop dead at 22. So when it happens of course people want to know why. When it’s kept secret it seems odd. People don’t normally hide cause of death if it was some ailment. Not sure how disclosing an ailment would bring further grief. There is a short list of causes of death that would bring further grief if made public. We all know what those are.

 

I have enough people I know or were two degrees away from that died of overdose or suicide around that age. 99% chance it was one of those. If the family doesn't want to release details then that is their choice. 

 

I have a close childhood friend that died of suicide and even years later I don't know any details about it or even how he did it. It bothers me but I also respect the family's choice. Imagine at a public level. 

[Forlorn hope]

Rip. 

 

Prayers to the family 

 

 

[Beck Water]

20 minutes ago, StHustle said:

It simply isn’t normal for a young fit kid to drop dead at 22. So when it happens of course people want to know why. When it’s kept secret it seems odd. People don’t normally hide cause of death if it was some ailment. Not sure how disclosing an ailment would bring further grief. There is a short list of causes of death that would bring further grief if made public. We all know what those are.

 

It's possible that the family does not know and/or does not know yet.

 

5 years ago the brother of one of my kid's HS schoolmates died suddenly at Penn State.  Found dead in his apartment.      There were all kinds of rumors swirling but, someone very close to the family chose me to vent at and per this family friend, the family literally did not know the cause of death.  No visible signs of trauma, no cardiac abnormalities on autopsy, nothing on the toxicology screen.

 

It was very painful to the family because of the rumors that swirled about drug overdose or suicide, but if it was a drug they literally could not find it.  Wealthy family, and paid for broader than normal toxicology screens and hair analysis.  Nada.

[wppete]

39 minutes ago, StHustle said:

It simply isn’t normal for a young fit kid to drop dead at 22. So when it happens of course people want to know why. When it’s kept secret it seems odd. People don’t normally hide cause of death if it was some ailment. Not sure how disclosing an ailment would bring further grief. There is a short list of causes of death that would bring further grief if made public. We all know what those are.

Common sense right right here 👆