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6 hours ago, Virgil said:

 

I don't think it's an over-reaction.  Barkley has shown flashes of being a short term capable starter.  The theme of my entire post was that Beane is probably looking for guys we can keep for depth that are cheaper options than others.  Barkley is cheaper than Keenum.  If Barkley proves he can get the job done for a few games is someone (I won't say it) gets injured, then that cap savings could help us.

I think it’s an overreaction because Barkley’s so limited when it comes to arm strength and mobility.  Keenum at least has average arm strength and a LOT more experience and success as a starter in this league.  Also keep in mind that Keenum was playing most of their starters with our backups.

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1 hour ago, 947 said:

Cook knocked an Indy LB 2-3 yards backwards on one of his runs down around the 10-yd line. I was surprised to see him run that hard, he could be more than a scat back.


Youre talking about prolonged abuse on a smaller frame.  I didn’t say he couldn’t do it at all, I said how the staff probably envisions using him at this point.  Could they change their minds sure, but I don’t believe they drafted him with the belief he would eventually be a bell cow running back.  His brother is bigger and always hurt as it is.  

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5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I don't think they really plan to ever see Cook elevate to a primary ball carrier.  I think with his size, the plan is to have him as a guy who at most splits carries with a primary runner but is a regular receiving weapon out of the backfield with the hopes he can be a lot like Kamara and Ingram were for the Saints during their peaks.    

 

And people writing off Devin already now is premature.  He isn't likely someone who is going to command a huge FA deal at RB, those deals are usually reserved for the top end of the position.  Devin is more in line with a good to pretty good RB, but not among the leagues best.  And if he wants to stay in Buffalo, its possible he gives them a home town discount still too.  

 

Moss certainly could bounce back this year and take over next year (or draft someone too), just saying I wouldn't just assume Devin is a goner no matter what at this point.  

 

I agree. But I am saying ideally Cook probably sees the most snaps in 2023 out of all the RB's. Not the most carries but just on the field the most. With half his touches being from targets. 

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23 hours ago, BillsFanSD said:

I think we should make very firm snap decisions about Keenum after watching him play behind a patchwork OL while trying to throw to our backups for a half.

we can only judge the data as it has been presented to us which so far is One game. He'll get his future chances. The Bills would be fools to vet this situation so quickly and they aren't fools. In the end I have to trust their judgments.

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

Imagine being Groot.. getting one on one training/tips from Von Miller and now the greatest sack artist of all time.  He’s got the physical tools, if he can absorb and implement what he’s being taught; he could become a true difference maker for years to come. 

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22 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

Local sports news here in Colorado is hyped to see the Broncos performance against the mighty Bills team.

They are also excited to go to Buffalo and most want to see Russell Wilson start.

they're not going to be playing the mighty Bills team.

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1 minute ago, nucci said:

they're not going to be playing the mighty Bills team.

 

LOL so true.  But if they win the game, they will think they are playoff bound!

Out here in the wild, wild west the Russell Wilson signing is Peyton Manning 2.0 and it's paving the way to the SB.

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2 minutes ago, muppy said:

I just noticed that Rousseau is practicing with an extra padded helmet? Any idea what is up with that? Just curious-m

Mandated by the league for all OL, DL, and LBs this season.

 

EDIT: training camp practices only.

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2 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Mandated by the league for all OL, DL, and LBs this season.

wow I did not know this. It looks strikingly bigger than the usual helmet. I hope it works as intended.

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7 minutes ago, nucci said:

they're not going to be playing the mighty Bills team.

 

I thought our backups on D did fairly well against the Colts starters minus JT. Especially since the Bills turned the ball over a lot. Holding them to a FG on Keenum's first INT was pretty impressive.

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1 minute ago, muppy said:

wow I did not know this. It looks strikingly bigger than the usual helmet. I hop it works as intended.

Not sure how much actual concussion protection it adds, but it’s at least something. Not sure if you caught my edited post, but to clarify, they’re only mandated for training camp practices. 

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2 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Not sure how much actual concussion protection it adds, but it’s at least something. Not sure if you caught my edited post, but to clarify, they’re only mandated for training camp practices. 

Interesting. Good for practice but not in games. okie dokie NFL

 

*shrugs*

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On 8/14/2022 at 7:16 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

Credit to Moss for keeping a good head on his shoulders and coming into camp apparently better than ever after a disappointing sophomore year.  He's the anti Karlos Williams. If he really is better than ever though it could complicate things quite a bit for the back field though. With the way the NFL is though you simply can not pay RB's anything more than the vet minimum. So that means bye bye Motor in 2023 and Moss fits into Motors role in 2023 while Cook hopefully becomes the leading back by snap count in 2023. 

 

The NFL evidently hasn't gotten your memo since there are currently 31 RB under contract with an AAV north of $2M,

2 more within 10% of that figure. 

 

Vet minimum for a player with 5 years experience is $1.065M for 2022. 

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/running-back/

 

 

13 minutes ago, muppy said:

wow I did not know this. It looks strikingly bigger than the usual helmet. I hope it works as intended.

 

It's basically a padded shell that fits over the actual helmet, called a "Guardian Cap".

https://nesn.com/2022/07/why-nfl-introduced-new-protective-headgear-during-training-camp/

 

It's supposed to reduce the impact of collisions by 20% if both players are wearing it.

 

There was an interview last season with one of the Bills players about wearing it, might have been Dawkins? Anyway, whoever it was seemed to feel it made a noticeable difference.

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13 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Not sure how much actual concussion protection it adds, but it’s at least something. Not sure if you caught my edited post, but to clarify, they’re only mandated for training camp practices. 

I remember players were wearing them last year in camp as well...not sure if it was mandated then though.

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7 minutes ago, Son of a K-Gun said:

I remember players were wearing them last year in camp as well...not sure if it was mandated then though.

 

I think it might have been mandated for OL only last season, this season they expanded it to DL and LB (and perhaps TE if blocking)

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37 minutes ago, nucci said:

they're not going to be playing the mighty Bills team.

 

I don't think it's too spicy of a take to say that our second string defense could hold its own statistically with about half of the defenses in the NFL atm.

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