Virgil Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 6:18 PM, mannc said: So Deebo can only be effective in an offense with an immobile, noodle-armed QB? I don’t agree… I hate to say it, but the Patriots could probably make good use of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He will be a Jet by the end of the week Why not Buffalo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He will be a Jet by the end of the week Just please no KC. Anywhere but KC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He will be a Jet by the end of the week So will Lamar personally be flying out to greet Deebo or just wait till he lands in Baltimore…? Hmm… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 His issue is not money, but with how he’s being used. If that’s the case, will he be as impactful if used differently? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) Deebo is a fun player, but seems kind of system specific. I'm not as high on him as it seems most are. 49ers seemed to use him perfectly, and a team like the Jets are probably a good fit (although he apparently doesn't want to be used that way), but he doesn't really give me any worries like say, Tyreek Hill or AJ Brown. Edited April 20, 2022 by SCBills 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: His issue is not money, but with how he’s being used. If that’s the case, will he be as impactful if used differently? He’s an idiot. Shanny makes better use out of him than anyone could/will. Mvp candidate….and he doesn’t like the way he’s used. maybe he thinks Trey is a bum 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: His issue is not money, but with how he’s being used. If that’s the case, will he be as impactful if used differently? Deebo is tired of playing RB. He wants to play WR. Indy and Cleveland have top tier RB's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 I just got a notification from ESPN stating that Deebo is now requesting a trade. I have to say, if he's concerned with how he's being used, then I wouldn't want anything to do with him (not that we can afford him). I don't want a player on my team who doesn't want the ball in his hands as much as possible. I have zero issue with him wanting to get paid for have 1700 total scrimmage yards, but that's where it ends for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Physical runner, tough as nails. Gadget guy who can elevate an offense by making teams gameplan against him specifically. Imagine the jet sweeps with Deebo…. Not going to happen, but he is a good player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Why are some of you discounting Deebo as a pure receiver? Again, 77 rec 1405 yards 18.2 ypc this past season. The rushing stats are a bonus. Deebo does it all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 If I'm Beane, I would move multiple assets to get either one of those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s an idiot. Shanny makes better use out of him than anyone could/will. Mvp candidate….and he doesn’t like the way he’s used. maybe he thinks Trey is a bum Deebo's injury history is a consideration as well, especially for a team that's going to trade a first round pick for him and pay him a ton of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, H2o said: Deebo is tired of playing RB. He wants to play WR. Indy and Cleveland have top tier RB's. And if they plan to play him more at RB than WR his money goes way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Why are some of you discounting Deebo as a pure receiver? Again, 77 rec 1405 yards 18.2 ypc this past season. The rushing stats are a bonus. Deebo does it all! Because it isn't "pure receiver". Some of those receptions are out of the backfield receptions, some of those receptions are gimmick receptions - the pop passes and bubble screens etc... some are slot, some are outside. That is how you get the best out of Deebo IMO. If you plug him into a more vanilla scheme as an outside receiver for my money he is not the same guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: If I'm Beane, I would move multiple assets to get either one of those guys. There is no way to have Diggs and Samuel. It would be a waste of assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 4:07 PM, Ethan in Portland said: If they don't trade Edmunds, do you think he will be a non-participant? We could only hope ? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: There is no way to have Diggs and Samuel. It would be a waste of assets. Why? Kansas City just had two elite pass catching options and ran them successfully for years. Tampa Bay won a Super Bowl with Mike Evans, Gronk, Godwin. The Falcons had Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley. Pittsburgh had a rotation of Brown, Schuster, Diontae Johnson, and before that Wallace and Brown. It's a lot of money, but look at the boost Diggs made to the offense. Him and Samuel and Davis? Then you're not depending on guys like Cole Beasley, John Brown, Emmanuel Sanders, Isaiah McKenzie come Playoff time, and that's been the biggest downfall of this team come Playoff time. Josh has to do everything offensively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: There is no way to have Diggs and Samuel. It would be a waste of assets. For the same money I’d rather Diggs and Deebo , then Diggs and Edmonds !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Because it isn't "pure receiver". Some of those receptions are out of the backfield receptions, some of those receptions are gimmick receptions - the pop passes and bubble screens etc... some are slot, some are outside. That is how you get the best out of Deebo IMO. If you plug him into a more vanilla scheme as an outside receiver for my money he is not the same guy. Have him play the Beasley and McKenzie hybrid role. Jet sweeps, screens, option slot routes… i think he would be a great weapon on this team. Just don’t think it’ll happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, Cray51 said: Have him play the Beasley and McKenzie hybrid role. Jet sweeps, screens, option slot routes… i think he would be a great weapon on this team. Just don’t think it’ll happen I would hope we are past the point the Bills used to find themselves in where the Bills offensive coaches couldn't figure out how to utilize their best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Putin said: For the same money I’d rather Diggs and Deebo , then Diggs and Edmonds !!! We don’t know where the cap will be but I just can’t see all that cap in 2 WRs. If Allen were just starting his rookie deal sure. plus we have to give up cheap high draft picks. Edited April 20, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I would hope we are past the point the Bills used to find themselves in where the Bills offensive coaches couldn't figure out how to utilize their best players. With Deebo on this roaster I doubt that Josh would face many two high safety formations 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We don’t know where the cap will be but I just can’t see all that cap in 2 WRs. If Allen were just starting his rookie deal sure. plus we have to give up cheap high draft picks. And all that would be worth it for just ONE SB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Our best offer would be Davis and pick 25. Not sure I'd do it. Compared to what other teams are going to offer - won't be enough. But Davis did have a big game v Shanny in 2020. Maybe that sticks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Doubtful but man this guy would kill 2 birds with one stone for us. On the other hand could we make it work to keep him away from the jets? But you cant pay deebo and ignore poyer either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 SF has to fix this - they can't let him leave. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: SF has to fix this - they can't let him leave. Maybe they should let him leave. Right now the 49ers can offer Deebo the Trifecta…that not many other teams can offer. - Money - #1 Option on Offense/Super Star Attention - Team able to Compete for Super Bowl when a player suddenly doesn’t want to get paid be the primary option on offense and be on a Super Bowl caliber team when that guy wants out that might raise a red flag. Maybe get out and get the most of what you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: Doubtful but man this guy would kill 2 birds with one stone for us. On the other hand could we make it work to keep him away from the jets? But you cant pay deebo and ignore poyer either I would absolutely rather pay Deebo than Poyer. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Our best offer would be Davis and pick 25. Not sure I'd do it. Compared to what other teams are going to offer - won't be enough. But Davis did have a big game v Shanny in 2020. Maybe that sticks. Why not 2022 1st 2023 1st and 3rd? That asking price should be comparable to the one KC got for Tyreek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: I would absolutely rather pay Deebo than Poyer. Not even close. As would I. That might not play well in the locker room though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 This years’ 2nd and next year’s 1st. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Why not 2022 1st 2023 1st and 3rd? That asking price should be comparable to the one KC got for Tyreek. I might be fine with that - I just don't think Beane is. So I was thinking of a deal that was reasonable and shores up a need - secure WR 2 with a legit WR1 without giving up too much draft capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Because it isn't "pure receiver". Some of those receptions are out of the backfield receptions, some of those receptions are gimmick receptions - the pop passes and bubble screens etc... some are slot, some are outside. That is how you get the best out of Deebo IMO. If you plug him into a more vanilla scheme as an outside receiver for my money he is not the same guy. I strongly disagree. He has great hands, is a very good route runner and is arguably the best in the league racking up YAC. Shanahan was just creative enough to use him in a multitude of ways because he realizes how special Deebo is. Tyreek Hill has the ability that would allow him to be used the same way. Deebo will be successful anywhere a QB can get him the ball. He does it all, whether folks want to give him credit where it's due or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: SF has to fix this - they can't let him leave. Agreed. Especially with an unproven 2nd year QB on a rookie contract they can afford it. Pay your WRs, DEs and OL Edited April 20, 2022 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: This years’ 2nd and next year’s 1st. More. a lot more. Actual players that can put me over the top if I’m the 49ers. I mean they were what? 2-3 plays from the Super Bowl? Would they have been favored if it was 49ers v Bengals? I wouldn’t be looking for Picks when the window is right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 It’s not what you want to offer. It’s what offer can you make to beat other offers. The starting point would be our 1st and 2nd this year. Then you know another team will beat that easily since we pick late. We’re talking minimum of 3 draft picks probably 2022 1st, 2022 2nd, and a high pick next year. Plus a big contract. This has the Jets written all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: It’s not what you want to offer. It’s what offer can you make to beat other offers. The starting point would be our 1st and 2nd this year. Then you know another team will beat that easily since we pick late. We’re talking minimum of 3 draft picks probably 2022 1st, 2022 2nd, and a high pick next year. Plus a big contract. This has the Jets written all over it. I immediately thought of the Jets too for Deebo with the Saleh/49ers connection. That said it be funny if Brown got traded for Deebo straight up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Does Andy Reid roll the dice on a younger Tyreek type WR? The Pats maybe. Jets? Just stay in SF for crying out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I strongly disagree. He has great hands, is a very good route runner and is arguably the best in the league racking up YAC. Shanahan was just creative enough to use him in a multitude of ways because he realizes how special Deebo is. Tyreek Hill has the ability that would allow him to be used the same way. Deebo will be successful anywhere a QB can get him the ball. He does it all, whether folks want to give him credit where it's due or not. He is very good. But stick him in a vanilla scheme I don't think he is the same guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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