ToGoGo Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, Warcodered said: More of a goat that specifically sought out and staked itself to a chain in the Tyrannosaur paddock. Low hanging fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 3 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Oh I completely understand why certain owners (or most/all of them) would find the rationale to defend Snyder, especially now with inquiries into the team’s finances - they don’t want to be next. But long before this week and that revelation, when it was only the rancid workplace cultural issues at issue, Goodell and the small cadre of owners that really pull the strings, decided to sweep this under the rug. Now we’re seeing the consequences of that, with congressional inquiries and congressmen floating the idea of revoking their antitrust exemption. It would have been easier for everyone involved to Sterling/Richardson Snyder long ago. Today, we now have team officials leaking that, despite what Goodell just said at owner meetings this past week, Snyder is actively involved in day-to-day operations. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/01/report-daniel-snyder-has-resumed-his-day-to-day-role-with-commanders/ I think there is no chance that owners like Pegula, Blank, Kroenke, etc sit quietly and meekly by while 3-4 other owners “pull all the strings” on their business. Zero point zero chance. These are collective decisions because each decision affects everyone’s money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 This happened in Australia to the Melbourne Storm. Kept 2 books. Players chatting amongst themselves across teams about their salaries was the undoing. They’d won the finals multiple years also. Those were stricken from the record books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 It would not surprise me for some owners to pay some bonuses to players off the books. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: It would not surprise me for some owners to pay some bonuses to players off the books. why would they document that at all, let alone "in a second set of books"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 1:53 AM, MJS said: It never ends with this guy. I can't see how this ends with him keeping the team. Will it confuse anyone if they trade owners with Miami? Or Cleveland? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: why would they document that at all, let alone "in a second set of books"? Rich people playing around with that kind of money like to keep track of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Rich people playing around with that kind of money like to keep track of it. the smart ones don’t let someone else write it down in a book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: the smart ones don’t let someone else write it down in a book. Even the smart ones have to keep track of things, it's not like rich people keep their money in a giant money vault like Scrooge McDuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Snyder is done after this. The sale may even be completed before the season starts now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Even the smart ones have to keep track of things, it's not like rich people keep their money in a giant money vault like Scrooge McDuck. they don’t leave it to someone else right? How can that stay secret? “Don’t let anyone know we have another set of books!!” It’s like these morons plotting malfeasance via emails (“delete!!!”) 45 minutes ago, H2o said: Snyder is done after this. The sale may even be completed before the season starts now. to who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Oh boy. Jon Gruden is really going to get it now. They ignored so many women and read over 20k emails just to get him fired the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: they don’t leave it to someone else right? How can that stay secret? “Don’t let anyone know we have another set of books!!” It’s like these morons plotting malfeasance via emails (“delete!!!”) I mean coconspirators and criminal conspiracies are a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: to who? To whomever the league approves. He's done. You think a bunch of billionaires forking out their money as well are going to take kindly to this shyster's actions? Nope. Stick a fork in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 They're going to be dancing in the street when Danny boy is forced to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Wow...seems he was withholding money that should have gone to the visiting team pools...dude is done. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/allegations-withholding-payments-league-true-122313312.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 hours ago, H2o said: To whomever the league approves. He's done. You think a bunch of billionaires forking out their money as well are going to take kindly to this shyster's actions? Nope. Stick a fork in him. Bon Jovi? "The Kelly Group"? with no stadium deal, wonder where the next guy will move them to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 speculation is that the only reason he's still around is that he knows things that could hurt the "shield". Good thing he has a long season ticket wait list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 20 hours ago, Warcodered said: Even the smart ones have to keep track of things, it's not like rich people keep their money in a giant money vault like Scrooge McDuck. With saving interest rates it is not such a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Big Turk said: Wow...seems he was withholding money that should have gone to the visiting team pools...dude is done. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/allegations-withholding-payments-league-true-122313312.html I for one, am shocked this dude is a scumbag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Make sure you look at original source. Florio has been milking ad money on another person's story. https://frontofficesports.com/commanders-allegedly-held-back-visiting-nfl-teams-ticket-revenue/ NFL's Commanders Allegedly Used 'Two Books' To Track Finances https://frontofficesports.com/nfls-commanders-allegedly-used-two-books-to-track-finances/ Quote “The Committee continues to investigate the hostile workplace and culture of impunity at the Washington Commanders as well as the National Football League’s inadequate response and lack of transparency,” a spokesperson for the House Oversight Committee said in a statement to FOS. “The Committee will follow the facts wherever they may lead.” Some of those on committee have been seen in owner's box during games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I'm no fan of Snyder but I find it a little hard to believe that a skim operation like this would escape the attention of an organization the size of the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33724271/congress-says-washington-commanders-appear-broken-financial-laws-owes-money-visiting-teams-season-ticket-holders Quote In the letter obtained by The Associated Press, the committee said the team withheld ticket revenue from visiting teams and refundable ticket deposits from season-ticket holders. The committee said emails, documents and statements made by former employees indicate team executives and owner Dan Snyder engaged in "a troubling, long-running, and potentially unlawful pattern of financial conduct." Edited April 12, 2022 by Jauronimo 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) On 4/3/2022 at 9:30 PM, stuvian said: I'm no fan of Snyder but I find it a little hard to believe that a skim operation like this would escape the attention of an organization the size of the NFL. And yet it did.... It's not that hard to believe it escaped the NFL's notice. This is a case of "no one would ever really do this to us, would they?" If you are going to a commit a crime, break new ground. #WashingtonDefrauders Edited April 12, 2022 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) Screwing the fans is one thing I'm sure Goodell and the league can come to peace with. Don't see how Snyder survives screwing the other owners. Edited April 12, 2022 by Jauronimo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, Jauronimo said: Screwing the fans is one thing. Don't see how Snyder survives screwing the other owners. This will test how the NFL responds. They have been willing to sweep a lot under the rug to "protect the shield." But now it's personal between the owners. The old boys' club finally has one of it's own committing fraud against the rest of them. Once they pick their jaws up off the floor, how will they respond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Something tells me Goodell and NFL owners are secretly relieved this story is coming out. They need a reason to push Snyder out the door. Now they have one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, HappyDays said: Something tells me Goodell and NFL owners are secretly relieved this story is coming out. They need a reason to push Snyder out the door. Now they have one. As long as it doesn't open up the league to more scrutiny on other internal matters they've kept under wraps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: As long as it doesn't open up the league to more scrutiny on other internal matters they've kept under wraps. if it does, then the league has only themselves to blame since they should have pushed this criminal out of the league years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Screwing the fans is one thing I'm sure Goodell and the league can come to peace with. Don't see how Snyder survives screwing the other owners. If he survives this he's got to have a hell of a lot of dirt on some people. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 This Dan Snyder is one heluva guy. Taping cheerleaders undressing, cheating his season ticket holders, and stealing from other league owners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 If ONLY Ralph skimmed some cash he wouldn’t have had to be known as CHEAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Dan is cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Did he at least give the other owners a free pepsi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, eball said: This Dan Snyder is one heluva guy. Taping cheerleaders undressing, cheating his season ticket holders, and stealing from other league owners. Dear eball, I find such remarks by you not only detestable in impugning the character of an overachiever and great America such as Mr. Snyder, but also your musings fall far below the standard of what we should all come to expect here from our Board Members at The Stadium Wall. In short; be better. Respectfully, Samuel Norton* Warden Shawshank State Prison (* Loyal Board Member since that guy around here bet $5,000 on the Bills to lose against the Vikings in 2018) Edited April 12, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: And yet it did.... It's not that hard to believe it escaped the NFL's notice. This is a case of "no one would ever really do this to us, would they?" If you are going to a commit a crime, break new ground. #WashingtonDefrauders Based on previous actions taken by NFL (i,e, Fixbouro) the rule is "Don't get caught and don't let press find out." 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: This will test how the NFL responds. They have been willing to sweep a lot under the rug to "protect the shield." But now it's personal between the owners. The old boys' club finally has one of it's own committing fraud against the rest of them. Once they pick their jaws up off the floor, how will they respond? $nyder is NOT one of the old boys. He is one of the new kids on block who wants to make NFL less representative and more let big teams get more money for they deserve it. Sort of like Free Agency even though lip service to team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 If they really did keep 2 sets of books, and the investigation is going full tilt boogey, his goose is finally cooked! Could be the best thing that ever happened to Redskins fans! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-Ill.) who said, “Quite frankly, as you go through the allegations it reads like a description of some organization out of the Godfather and not an NFL football team." As an Italian/American, I am offended that Dan Snyder is referred to as anything remotely akin to an Italian/American crime boss. Dan Snyder couldn't hold Don Corleone's jock strap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, JoeF said: Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-Ill.) who said, “Quite frankly, as you go through the allegations it reads like a description of some organization out of the Godfather and not an NFL football team." As an Italian/American, I am offended that Dan Snyder is referred to as anything remotely akin to an Italian/American crime boss. Dan Snyder couldn't hold Don Corleone's jock strap. If you refer to $nyder's national background you get totally lambasted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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