Estro Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) Gordon's teammate & fellow CB, Trent McDuffie, seems to get more pub, but I really like Gordon. Good size, 6' & 200lbs, and looks really fluid. He's also a plus in run support, which I think Bills scouts covet in CBs. I haven't seen a ton of early 1st round hype surrounding this guy, but if his speed and change of direction #s look good @ the Combine he's going in the 1st round. He was part of Bruce Feldmans freak list, apparently has insane vertical jump and agility #s, do it wouldn't surprise if he blows up @ the combine. Also has background in dance, Kung fu and ballet according to profootballnetwork.com, each just adds to the dudes motion and fluidity. CBs that have size, speed and physicality that project as quality starters don't last long. I really like Gordon. Edited February 16, 2022 by Estro 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 You need to fix the title 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 interesting, thanks for the write-up. Could be an interesting 2nd round grab if we are able to get Jordan Davis in the 1st. CB class seems really deep this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: interesting, thanks for the write-up. Could be an interesting 2nd round grab if we are able to get Jordan Davis in the 1st. CB class seems really deep this year. There’s a great possibility that we won’t be taking Jordan Davis in round one and it’s very unlikely (imo) that Gordon is available rd 2. The CB class has 7 very good prospects I’d have in the top 50. Not sure about the depth yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 No Kylers! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, mannc said: You need to fix the title I think it’s a head fake for all those on here that think we are a WR away from a Superbowl, but then he tells us what we really need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 "Kyler" is such a stupid name, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc said: No Kylers! 57 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: "Kyler" is such a stupid name, though. I’d be more concerned about the “Gordon” part… 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) Your title has WR when you mean corner. But I agree... Gordon > McDuffie. I wouldn't mind him at #25. He is probably my 4th or 5th choice there. Edited February 15, 2022 by GunnerBill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: "Kyler" is such a stupid name, though. My son had a Kyler on his little league team.......which was refreshing as every single other kid had a first name that ended in "en". I do wonder if there were parents in my youth who lamented every kid being named Mike, Jim, Joe, Dan, Don or Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I like “Sauce” Gardner, but he will likely be gone by pick 25, however, his teammate at Cincinnati, Coby Bryant, would be a good fit on the Bills as CB2 and should be available in the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Without watching game tape, just highlights, I have him top 7 in a solid cb class. I’d rather trade back and get him (who wouldn’t?) but i think he’d be fine @ 25. Love his size, athleticism and tackling prowess. His ability to play inside and outside is a nice thing to have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Doc said: No Kylers! They are subject to uncontrollable pouting attacks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Without watching game tape, just highlights, I have him top 7 in a solid cb class. I’d rather trade back and get him (who wouldn’t?) but i think he’d be fine @ 25. Love his size, athleticism and tackling prowess. His ability to play inside and outside is a nice thing to have. I have him at worst #5. Him and McCreary are #4 and #5 for me and it comes down to scheme preference they are really close. McCreary is a better man guy. Gordon is a better zone guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 Todd McShay has Kyler Gordon going 21st overall to the Patriots in his mock draft that came out this morning. It's the earliest I've seen him going & I expect this trend to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, Estro said: Todd McShay has Kyler Gordon going 21st overall to the Patriots in his mock draft that came out this morning. It's the earliest I've seen him going & I expect this trend to continue. Should have read my mock published on here then Estro. I had him at #17 to the Chargers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 20 hours ago, Estro said: Gordon's teammate & fellow CB, Trent McDuffie, seems to get more pub, but I really like Gordon. Good size, 6' & 200lbs, and looks really fluid. He's also a plus in run support, which I think Bills scouts covet in CBs. I haven't seen a ton of early 1st round hype surrounding this guy, but if his speed and change of direction #s look good @ the Combine he's going in the 1st round. He was part of Bruce Feldmans freak list, apparently has insane vertical jump and agility #s, do it wouldn't surprise if he blows up @ the combine. Also has background in dance, Kung fu and ballet according to profootballnetwork.com, each just adds to the dudes motion and fluidity. CBs that have size, speed and physicality that project as quality starters don't last long. I really like Gordon. I like Andrew Booth Jr. from Clemson as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I like Andrew Booth Jr. from Clemson as well Best corner in the draft. He is my #4 overall player (which is partly a reflection on a weak class at the very top) but he is an excellent player. CB1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Best corner in the draft. He is my #4 overall player (which is partly a reflection on a weak class at the very top) but he is an excellent player. CB1. I've seen a few mocks mocking him to the Bills, but I take it you feel he won't be there at 25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Should have read my mock published on here then Estro. I had him at #17 to the Chargers. So this years Greg Newsome? How did he play for Browns by the way? Did he meet your expectations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: So this years Greg Newsome? How did he play for Browns by the way? Did he meet your expectations? Started 11 games. Was very good in coverage. Only gave up 1 touchdown. Will need to improve as a tackler in run support. But very encouraging season for him as a rookie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 The question to me is whether Gordon is a potential CB1. If not.........then that's not the play...........and he probably isn't an immediate, quality CB2 for a SB team.........and not worth pick #25. If they don't trust Dane Jackson or believe that Tre White will be decent early season before returning to top form later.......then they should be looking to fill CB2 in UFA with a physical upgrade over Levi. That may prove impossible if the market is strong but when you are a primarily zone-based defense it's more likely that CB2's will be available than if you are heavy man-based. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The question to me is whether Gordon is a potential CB1. If not.........then that's not the play...........and he probably isn't an immediate, quality CB2 for a SB team.........and not worth pick #25. On the first question, I'm not sold the answer is yes. On the second question I think he could be. As for whether he is a good use of #25... I can think of better uses of it, for sure. But at #25 sometimes you are left choosing between sub-optimal options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: On the first question, I'm not sold the answer is yes. On the second question I think he could be. As for whether he is a good use of #25... I can think of better uses of it, for sure. But at #25 sometimes you are left choosing between sub-optimal options. whose your fav guy that you have seen mocked to us at 25? i think there should be a good contributor at 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: whose your fav guy that you have seen mocked to us at 25? i think there should be a good contributor at 25. By far Andrew Booth, Cornerback, Clemson - Chad Reuter mocked him to us this week on NFL.com. In a class this light at the very top for a player as good as him to slide to #25 would be madness in my mind. But if it happened I would not even pause for thought. My next two are: Chris Olave, Wide Receiver, Ohio State - best route runner in the class and speculation he could run sub 4.4? Sign me up. Trevor Penning, Offensive Tackle, Northern Iowa - I have been banging the drum for him since mid season. Huge, nasty, finisher of a left tackle. He is raw but the ceiling is sky high and he would blow people off the ball in the run game day 1. You wanna run it better? Draft Penning, line him up at left tackle, slide Dion inside to left guard and just call all your run plays to the left. Sadly I think his dominant week in Mobile means he won't get out of the first 16 picks. I think Olave might be the most likely of those three to make #25. If none of them are there then I think Jameson Williams as a flier makes some sense because the Bills can afford to wait on him a bit. If all four of those are gone my next group of possible targets does include Gordon. But it would very much depend what the board looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 On 2/15/2022 at 1:52 PM, Estro said: Gordon's teammate & fellow CB, Trent McDuffie, seems to get more pub, but I really like Gordon. Good size, 6' & 200lbs, and looks really fluid. He's also a plus in run support, which I think Bills scouts covet in CBs. I haven't seen a ton of early 1st round hype surrounding this guy, but if his speed and change of direction #s look good @ the Combine he's going in the 1st round. He was part of Bruce Feldmans freak list, apparently has insane vertical jump and agility #s, do it wouldn't surprise if he blows up @ the combine. Also has background in dance, Kung fu and ballet according to profootballnetwork.com, each just adds to the dudes motion and fluidity. CBs that have size, speed and physicality that project as quality starters don't last long. I really like Gordon. Have seen a few drafts with him taken several picks before the Bills in the first round and I know one did project him to the Bills. So he is not under the radar by any means and a good possibility he is off the board when we pick , leading to the auburn cb mcreary (?) going to us. Majority of drafts so far I have seen have us taking CB. Lots of first round cb talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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newcam2012 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 2/16/2022 at 7:20 AM, GunnerBill said: Best corner in the draft. He is my #4 overall player (which is partly a reflection on a weak class at the very top) but he is an excellent player. CB1. I don't think he's there at pick 25. Hope the Bills get assertive and trade up a little and get Booth. Him and Tre will be a nice duo for years to come. This is how you build champoinships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) If Sauce Gardner, Derek Stingley, Garrett Wilson, Jameson Williams (surely all 4 of these are gone), Chris Olave, Andrew Booth, and Trent McDuffie are all gone by 25 (and we haven't moved up to secure one of them) - Kyler Gordon would probably top the list of my "okay, that works, I'm fine with it at 25" picks that also include Daxton Hill, Kaiir Elam, Christian Watson, and Breece Hall. Though I think like many have pointed out, I'd prefer to move down and pick up more pick(s) to use to move up from 57 with to secure a couple from that list or someone like Skyy Moore, Roger McCreary, Kenneth Walker III, Alec Pierce, or Tariq Woolen (all of which might not be there at 57), in conjunction with one of those 5 guys I mentioned. Edited April 27, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I'd rather they trade up to get the player they want. Not going to be a lot of spots available on the team this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Doc said: I'd rather they trade up to get the player they want. Not going to be a lot of spots available on the team this year. Agree. Trade up for Kyle Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Could EASY end up being the 25th pick tomorrow.....size speed.....dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Well I’m sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 2/15/2022 at 12:52 PM, Estro said: Gordon's teammate & fellow CB, Trent McDuffie, seems to get more pub, but I really like Gordon. Good size, 6' & 200lbs, and looks really fluid. He's also a plus in run support, which I think Bills scouts covet in CBs. I haven't seen a ton of early 1st round hype surrounding this guy, but if his speed and change of direction #s look good @ the Combine he's going in the 1st round. He was part of Bruce Feldmans freak list, apparently has insane vertical jump and agility #s, do it wouldn't surprise if he blows up @ the combine. Also has background in dance, Kung fu and ballet according to profootballnetwork.com, each just adds to the dudes motion and fluidity. CBs that have size, speed and physicality that project as quality starters don't last long. I really like Gordon. That’s all fine and good but did he take wrestling in high school ? 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Could EASY end up being the 25th pick tomorrow.....size speed.....dog I agree if we do take a CB at 25 it will be him , actually it wouldn’t surprise me even if Andrew Booth jr was still on the board and we went with Kyler Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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