benderbender Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) "I'm gonna make them look like they're the smartest people out there." He really has. And I will not take this opportunity to, once again, post the link of Mina Kimes screeching about our poor decision in her draft coverage. As I am a mature adult and satisfied with the knowledge that we've won the 2018 draft. I no longer need to rub it in. I wish her the best of luck and hope she's Edited January 7, 2022 by benderbender 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 15 hours ago, Roy Hobbs said: When I'm having a bad day, I play this ... The best part is, he said 9 teams made a mistake. I believe 5 teams have made that mistake by taking a chance on him so far. 4 to go. 😛 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 46 minutes ago, corta765 said: I wish someone video'd my reaction as I nearly lost it when they picked Josh ( I wanted Rosen). Would've been a good laugh now I really believe if he was drafted anywhere else not NYJ he probably is a serviceable starter. He got the crap beat in and you can see it now where he is unsure of making a throw because of protection and past "ghosts'. Not saying he is a star but the Jets did everything wrong for Sam. The Browns at least tried to do the same as the Bills: -Give QB a solid line -Give him good WRs -Coaching that tries to utilize the QB's best talents -Defense that is solid enough to shoulder the load as the QB grows The Jets just tried to rush to be a contender year 2 which mixed with Gase was a disaster. I still couldn't believe they didn't try to sign Morse or Paradis to help Sam. I think I didn't quite have the same optimism for Sam, but I think his time in Carolina has shown he is what he is at this point. I think it would take a Sean Peyton to maybe resurrect his career and that's if it's even possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 17 hours ago, TBBills said: Remember this dbag https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/06/nfl-draft-josh-allen-bills-radio-producer-quits I never knew this, hope that twerp is happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijah Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just for some fun: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, elijah said: Just for some fun: Thanks for this. Always fun to re-read this thread. @GunnerBill How much heat have you taken for your comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Thanks for this. Always fun to re-read this thread. @GunnerBill How much heat have you taken for your comment? Haha, plenty. And all of it deserved. I did after the 2020 season go back and watch his Wyoming games again. I still wouldn't draft him in the 1st on the basis of them 😀. Luckily enough the Bills looked more at what he could be than what he was. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 too bad my favourite part of that day is not in that video or available to be seen elsewhere. it was the phonecall right before the pick, from Beane to Allen: Beane "You ready to be a Bill?" Allen "Yes, sir." it was short and sweet but somehow from that moment on i knew that Allen was their guy all along and that he was going to be special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Read this gem……. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/04/2018-nfl-draft-josh-allen-high-school-stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 This was ESPN football analyst Mina Kimes' reaction https://streamable.com/xw9kuc so whenever you question why Allen doesn't get the respect he deserves, remember how embarrassingly wrong the pundits were. They need a ton of space between their takes before they can start recognizing how great he is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills_88 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I remember watching his Bowl game against Central Michigan and was like this kid is the next Brett Farve that can run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 18 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: I still wonder if Mayfield or Darnold were on the board if Beane would have made the same deal to move up and get them or draft them at our original spot. There are rumors that there was one other guy the Bills would have taken aside from Allen, or even over Allen if both were available. Either way Allen remains one of the biggest outliers in recent history, maybe all time in terms of QB evaluation. You know next to nothing about the Bills' process. Correction: you know nothing about the Bills' process. Allen was always their guy. Who plays QB for your team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, eball said: You know next to nothing about the Bills' process. Correction: you know nothing about the Bills' process. Allen was always their guy. Who plays QB for your team? I believe that would be Tua Tagovaicantthrowthrfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 20 hours ago, WickedGame said: There’s a small moment in that video that says everything you need to know about Josh Allen. In the biggest moment of his young career, seconds after being selected, he pointedly breaks off an embrace with Goodell to go shake hands with the Bills fan on stage. Lots of players shake hands with fans, but it was the way he moved Goodell aside and made a point of greeting this fan that sticks with me. It’s just 2-3 seconds in a whirlwind, but it shows Josh knew, even then, how important the fans are to this game…and how important he would become to them. Agreed..I had the same feeling on that day when I was watching the live broadcast...It was such a great moment for him to not forget the fan. It meant a lot to him. 16 hours ago, Bigvinny said: Somebody went on and on about "you can't teach accuracy". I swear it was Aikman and all I could think was he was a UCLA Homer and wanted Rosen to be picked. It was Aikman on the Fox/NFL broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaru523 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I absolutely hated this pick, I wanted Rosen. When they called the pick "the Bills select Josh......." my face was 😃, but then Allen came out of his mouth and it was 😒🙄🤮, I sat there for about a half hour with a disgusted look on my face shaking my head. All I can say is.... it's a good thing I'm not the GM. I gladly eat crow and have multiple Josh Allen jerseys, couldn't be happier with the pick now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 16 hours ago, Bigvinny said: Somebody went on and on about "you can't teach accuracy". I swear it was Aikman and all I could think was he was a UCLA Homer and wanted Rosen to be picked. It was Aikman. When the Bills were on the clock he was openly campaigning for Rosen. I get the impression an executive got to him and told him to chill, because he eased back a little bit when then Bills took Allen over Rosen. Said he understood why the Bills did it because (in a snooty tone) "Allen was a good fit for Buffalo". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said: It was Aikman. When the Bills were on the clock he was openly campaigning for Rosen. I get the impression an executive got to him and told him to chill, because he eased back a little bit when then Bills took Allen over Rosen. Said he understood why the Bills did it because (in a snooty tone) "Allen was a good fit for Buffalo". Wonder how Aikman feels about his boy Rosen now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Sharky7337 said: I think I didn't quite have the same optimism for Sam, but I think his time in Carolina has shown he is what he is at this point. I think it would take a Sean Peyton to maybe resurrect his career and that's if it's even possible Too loose with the football, and not a big enough playmaker to be that loose. Too inconsistent on the easy stuff, inconsistent footwork, and not a top tier arm. He can make some great plays from time to time, but he doesn't have the athleticism or arm strength to do it consistently enough at this level. Surround him with some top end talent and I think he'd do just fine - he's never really had that. He had CMC - he got hurt. Moore and Anderson are solid, but the line injuries pretty much got him beat up this season. The jets never really could put anything of note together for him. Maybe 3rd time is a charm... but usually the 3rd team is when you're no longer the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, First Round Bust said: Still brings a tear to my eyes...Never gets old! Edited January 7, 2022 by Steve O 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, Amaru523 said: I absolutely hated this pick, I wanted Rosen. When they called the pick "the Bills select Josh......." my face was 😃, but then Allen came out of his mouth and it was 😒🙄🤮, I sat there for about a half hour with a disgusted look on my face shaking my head. All I can say is.... it's a good thing I'm not the GM. I gladly eat crow and have multiple Josh Allen jerseys, couldn't be happier with the pick now. I remember telling my buddies at the bar that it needed to be Allen. I always liked his fire and competitiveness - i also remember watching a Wyoming game that year and he made a throw on a speed out that was an absolute dime. LJ my concerns were the football IQ and arm strength, but i also thought if you just built the offense around this guy in a certain way you might have something. Rosen... just seemed like a smug jerk - I didn't want Jay Cutler's attitude with Matt Leinarts arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, elijah said: Just for some fun: I haven't revisited this thread since 2018. Thank you for the trip down Memory Lane or what I like to call "Amnesia Lane". I wonder how many posters changed their names since then? Anyone still worried about the 2 2nd round picks the Bills wasted? Josh Allen was suspected of being anything from a "white supremist" to a "Jesus freak"! LOL. I'll LAMP here and say my only comment concerning the pick was that the Bills need to get Jordan Palmer to keep working with Josh. The first day of the 2018 draft turned out to be my best day as a Bills fan and that goes back longer than I want to think about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 20 hours ago, Roy Hobbs said: When I'm having a bad day, I play this ... At least he was confident in his ability. One thing I will say about Rosen though is there were circumstances to start his career that simply were not fair (i.e. being taken in the top 10 in 2018 only for a new regime to draft Murray #1 overall the very next year). I think at this point though there's a distinct reason he's bounced around so much to start his career and who knows if he will even last as a backup much longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Love this video. What I Love more is that I was so wo WRONG about him. I thought he would just be a total bust and I was an idiot. His competitiveness is unmatched. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I don't watch college football but before that draft I watched highlights of all 5qbs of that draft and I desperately wanted Allen only. He effortlessly threw for 50-60 yards, 40yards on the run. And I have been sick for years of Bills QB like Edwards, Fitz and so on who couldn't pass for 20 yards. 3rd & 8 meant usually end of drive. Now it's a warm up for Josh. I wanted such type of QB with canon arm, although Aikman spoke about accuracy and it was a concern as Aikman looked like QB expert. Draft was at deep night Moscow time. I fell asleep when Bills were low on draft board before 2 trades up, so I hadn't much hope. When I woke up next day and found out Bills have drafted Allen I was happy. It was 1st time ever Bills drafted #1 prospect of my wish list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 really kind of boggles my mind so many people missed on Josh. Seems like nfl scouts really overrate guys from all those big schools with great recruiting that have a near nfl roster of talent. Id rather have the guy with the physical skills that had to face teams like ohio state with absolute scrubs on his team for a couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 From seeing the highlights it really seems daboll took the Wyoming playbook and inserted to same playbook here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 What I love is Mel Kiper to this day turns the screws to everyone on the set that trashed Josh getting picked almost like he’s Josh’s agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Chicharito said: From seeing the highlights it really seems daboll took the Wyoming playbook and inserted to same playbook here! It is more like Josh making plays that he made in Wyoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just for fun: Here are the post draft threads on TBD after Allen was drafted..... 1 minute ago, ganesh said: Just for fun: Here are the post draft threads on TBD after Allen was drafted..... The best quote from Gunner on his initial thread. "I would love to be here in 5 years time with Allen having a huge new contract and me having "I did not believe in Josh Allen" on my signature. I don't think it will happen, but I genuinely hope it does. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I loved the pick and was hoping it would be Allen. I figured nothing worked for the team before that so just go big and take the risk on him, even though he had a less than stellar college career. I knew if he panned out, he would be amazing and that has been proven true. I believe Josh was born to play for Buffalo. There isn’t another QB who better fits his team/ city than him. Sometimes you just have to wait for good things to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I remember seeing Allen for the first time in the Infamous college game against Iowa st where he threw five interceptions, hearing that he was a first round prospect and thinking "great watch the Bills be the team dumb enough to pick him". I had a more open mind at the time of my post that was referenced a couple posts back but remember thinking that he would need a couple years on the bench to have a chance at being good. I also thought that Sam Darnold was the most complete QB before than draft so it tells how much I know. I am glad to be wrong on Allen, but I think that he has exceeded almost everyone's expectations by now. The only question will be whether him or Jim Kelly will be seen as the best Bills QB of all time when Allen's career is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 6 hours ago, ganesh said: The best quote from Gunner on his initial thread. "I would love to be here in 5 years time with Allen having a huge new contract and me having "I did not believe in Josh Allen" on my signature. I don't think it will happen, but I genuinely hope it does. " And if we still had signatures I would have. I hated the pick but I said in that thread the next day I would give him, like any other Bills player, a fair crack at it and I have only ever assessed Josh since by what he did on the field. I didn't bang on about my draft evaluation of him for 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: And if we still had signatures I would have. I hated the pick but I said in that thread the next day I would give him, like any other Bills player, a fair crack at it and I have only ever assessed Josh since by what he did on the field. I didn't bang on about my draft evaluation of him for 3 years. I am with you on that.. I also wanted the other Josh. But the moment I saw Josh come to the podium, it felt the kid had something to prove (especially what happened on the day before the draft). The leak actually may have helped the Bills for Allen to slide down to 7. Go Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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