A Few Thoughts about Washington Game, in no particular order

[Virgil]

You know that feeling when you think you left your phone somewhere while out shopping?  There's a little bit of panic and self doubt as you wonder where you could have left it and you start strategizing how you will track it, recover your photos, convince the store it was stolen so you warranty covers it, yadda yadda yadda.  After hours of internal self-scrutiny, you reach your hand into your other pocket and find it, realize that only second have passed, and that wave of assurance rushes over you.  You remember that your other hand was full of groceries at the time, so you put it in the abnormal pocket, and there was never any real cause for concern in the first place.  Ladies and Gentlemen, Josh was simply in the other pocket.  

 

1 - Our Quarterback - Josh took a few steps back, looked downfield, then checked to the swing, before firing a bullet over Motor's head.  70 thousand fans all sighed and accepted that today was going to be more of the same from Allen today and hopefully the defense is still up to the task.  And then, just as quickly as that feeling grew, it was over.  Josh was back, and Josh was brilliant.  Josh was making throws on the run, across his body, while being tackled and all of them right on the money.  He showed touch on the deep ball, didn't throw into coverage unless only our guy could get it, and as many fans have said, brought 2020 Josh out again.  His best throw of the day was incomplete and largely due to the wind, which even affected long snaps to the punter.  Diggs broke free deep and Allen made the throw as soon as he saw the safety break.  As he threw it, Josh was off his feet while getting tackled high and low by two defenders.  The wind caught the ball in the air and drifted it away from Diggs.  Had the wind not been there, I personally believe Diggs makes that catch and Josh breaks the rules of physics again because no quarterback should be able to make that throw.  For me, I was back to counting on one hand all the throws he missed, watching him dance around incoming defenders with ease, and expecting every single throw to be a solid gain.  And with Josh coming back to form, all his receivers came back with him.

 

2 - Knox - For a player so up and down, it's hard to feel comfortable ever declaring him "fixed."  However, if there were a game for that, this is it.  Knox was an absolute stud on the field in every capacity as a tight end.  He blocked well, he found space well, he showed good hands, and he made a ridiculous catch from Allen that showed trust in the throw, field awareness, and just overall domination of a defender.  More impressively to me is where Knox was lined up.  Daboll did a great job of putting Knox on the line as a blocker and mixing up his routes versus blocks.  Knox would have two hands on the ground most plays, then sneak down the seem.  The touchdown was the little extra that makes you understand why Josh and the coaching staff keep giving him a chance.

 

3 - Daboll - Many, including myself, have criticized Daboll's ability to mix in a rushing attack without neutering the passing attack.  Against Washington, Daboll seemed to find that mix perfectly.  The rushes came out of multiple formations and he effectively rotates Motor and Moss to utilize their strengths.  Motor wasn't overly impressive, but wasn't a hindrance.  Moss made the most of his carries and catches and also showed why the coaches leaned more his way at the end of last season.  I still hope they keep the rotation as they have different skill sets.  For the second straight week, the second level blocking was on point.  For a Washington Defense that is claimed to be very good this year, they had absolutely no answer for Daboll's game plan. 

 

4 - When she couldn't hold she folded
A dissident is here
Escape is never the safest path
Oh, a dissidence, a dissident is here, oh!

 

5 - The Hiccup - I don't know what else to call the 14 points scored by Washington before half.  They called a screen to the weak side just as we called a heavy blitz to the strong side.  This left Gibson with a wall of blockers, few defenders in front of him, and speed to get him the whole way.  Then, as if the wind wasn't obvious, no one noticed the ball almost spin backwards above the 10 on the following kickoff, allowing Washington to recover a very elaborate onside kick.  Washington capitalized on the field position and made it a one score game.  However, Josh got the ball back, kept working his magic, let Bass boom a monster field goal before half, and we never looked back.  I call it a hiccup because this game was completely dominated by the Bills.  If you remove that screen pass, Heinicke wouldn't have eclipsed 100 yards passing until the 4th quarter.  This was a game that ended on the first drive, but the hiccup just made it seem close for a moment.

 

6 - Pass Rush - While there are so many things to focus on in this game, I would feel remiss to not address our season trend of a dominant pass rush.  Washington was able to neutralize our front 4 in this game, but we did manage to move the pocket a little.  Credit to Heinicke for being as mobile as he was to avoid the slight pressure we did create.  I specifically watched AJ and Groot get sucked up into 1 on 1 blocks with little success.  To be clear, our defense was dominant and our front 4 has overall been great, but it felt important to track their progress in their game as I know it's a point of optimism for many. 

 

7 - Williams - With four 1st round picks on the Washington defensive line and Chase Young being one of them, I was curious to see how our blocking assignments would go.  Apparently, eat your Wheaties and do your job was the plan.  Williams was a monster at right tackle and looked to be assigned to handle Young all by himself most of the game.  Young was able to get some momentum to the backfield, but Williams was able to direct his movement well.  Josh's jersey stayed clean all game and it was massively thanks to Williams being able to handle Young, thus allowing the rest of the line to focus on the other guys.  This is not to say Dawkins didn't have a great game too, but Williams had the much tougher assignment. 

 

8 - Stepbrothers - The law firm of Hyde and Poyer was open for business in this game as both had great interceptions.  Granted, the throws shouldn't have been made in the first place, but they were in position with speed and conviction each time.  These guys were all over the field in this game, leading a fantastic effort by the entire secondary.  You can see how they feed off each other and Poyer continues to be one of my favorite free agent signings of the last decade.  When the front 4 didn't have it today, the secondary said " I got this" and handled business.

 

9 - Beeeezzzzz - Quietly having a double digit catch day, Beasley was living rent free in the Washington secondary all game.  Beasley was an absolute zone killer and consistent safety blanket for Josh, as he had zero issues finding him after making all his reads.  Beyond just the bail outs, Beasley had great YAC.  In a game where Sanders had two touchdowns and Diggs finally started getting into a rhythm, it was Beasley who seemed like the back breaker against Washington as he kept moving the chains and no one could seem to find him on the field besides Josh. 

 

10 - Edmunds - In a game where everything went well and almost every player seemed to have a highlight reel play, Edmunds was a concern for me again.  True to fashion, I am going to stop talking about Edmunds in post game thoughts going forward unless something major occurs.  What makes Edmunds stand out to me is big plays everyone around him makes.  Milano was great in coverage and you could see him cover his zone, keep the defender in the back of his eye, and make a break if thrown that way to bat it down.  Edmunds seems to react to everything without any anticipation.  He missed a few tackles and most of Logan Thomas' catches were in his zone.  Again, we had a great defensive effort, but I would like to start seeing Edmunds start making some plays that constitute his 5th year option and potential contract extension.  The idea of this defense with a play making middle linebacker is absolutely terrifying. 

 

There are so many thoughts I couldn't express about this game and I'm relying on a continuation of this dominance going forward to talk about them in the future.  I can't say enough about Milano on this team and how happy I am to see 2020 Josh on the field.  In a week where the Lions gave the Ravens a tough game (watch the Tucker kick if you haven't already). and the Chiefs lost again, the Bills look good at 2-1 with a strong defense and awakening offense. 

Go Bills!

[LeGOATski]

Your saying Josh is our pocket boy?

[Virgil]

Just now, LeGOATski said:

Your saying Josh is our pocket boy?

 

Oh geez

[Solomon Grundy]

The critiques of Tremaine Edmunds play are truly flabbergasting 

[Big Turk]

15 minutes ago, Virgil said:

You know that feeling when you think you left your phone somewhere while out shopping?  There's a little bit of panic and self doubt as you wonder where you could have left it and you start strategizing how you will track it, recover your photos, convince the store it was stolen so you warranty covers it, yadda yadda yadda.  After hours of internal self-scrutiny, you reach your hand into your other pocket and find it, realize that only second have passed, and that wave of assurance rushes over you.  You remember that your other hand was full of groceries at the time, so you put it in the abnormal pocket, and there was never any real cause for concern in the first place.  Ladies and Gentlemen, Josh was simply in the other pocket.  

 

1 - Our Quarterback - Josh took a few steps back, looked downfield, then checked to the swing, before firing a bullet over Motor's head.  70 thousand fans all sighed and accepted that today was going to be more of the same from Allen today and hopefully the defense is still up to the task.  And then, just as quickly as that feeling grew, it was over.  Josh was back, and Josh was brilliant.  Josh was making throws on the run, across his body, while being tackled and all of them right on the money.  He showed touch on the deep ball, didn't throw into coverage unless only our guy could get it, and as many fans have said, brought 2020 Josh out again.  His best throw of the day was incomplete and largely due to the wind, which even affected long snaps to the punter.  Diggs broke free deep and Allen made the throw as soon as he saw the safety break.  As he threw it, Josh was off his feet while getting tackled high and low by two defenders.  The wind caught the ball in the air and drifted it away from Diggs.  Had the wind not been there, I personally believe Diggs makes that catch and Josh breaks the rules of physics again because no quarterback should be able to make that throw.  For me, I was back to counting on one hand all the throws he missed, watching him dance around incoming defenders with ease, and expecting every single throw to be a solid gain.  And with Josh coming back to form, all his receivers came back with him.

 

2 - Knox - For a player so up and down, it's hard to feel comfortable ever declaring him "fixed."  However, if there were a game for that, this is it.  Knox was an absolute stud on the field in every capacity as a tight end.  He blocked well, he found space well, he showed good hands, and he made a ridiculous catch from Allen that showed trust in the throw, field awareness, and just overall domination of a defender.  More impressively to me is where Knox was lined up.  Daboll did a great job of putting Knox on the line as a blocker and mixing up his routes versus blocks.  Knox would have two hands on the ground most plays, then sneak down the seem.  The touchdown was the little extra that makes you understand why Josh and the coaching staff keep giving him a chance.

 

3 - Daboll - Many, including myself, have criticized Daboll's ability to mix in a rushing attack without neutering the passing attack.  Against Washington, Daboll seemed to find that mix perfectly.  The rushes came out of multiple formations and he effectively rotates Motor and Moss to utilize their strengths.  Motor wasn't overly impressive, but wasn't a hindrance.  Moss made the most of his carries and catches and also showed why the coaches leaned more his way at the end of last season.  I still hope they keep the rotation as they have different skill sets.  For the second straight week, the second level blocking was on point.  For a Washington Defense that is claimed to be very good this year, they had absolutely no answer for Daboll's game plan. 

 

4 - When she couldn't hold she folded
A dissident is here
Escape is never the safest path
Oh, a dissidence, a dissident is here, oh!

 

5 - The Hiccup - I don't know what else to call the 14 points scored by Washington before half.  They called a screen to the weak side just as we called a heavy blitz to the strong side.  This left Gibson with a wall of blockers, few defenders in front of him, and speed to get him the whole way.  Then, as if the wind wasn't obvious, no one noticed the ball almost spin backwards above the 10 on the following kickoff, allowing Washington to recover a very elaborate onside kick.  Washington capitalized on the field position and made it a one score game.  However, Josh got the ball back, kept working his magic, let Bass boom a monster field goal before half, and we never looked back.  I call it a hiccup because this game was completely dominated by the Bills.  If you remove that screen pass, Heinicke wouldn't have eclipsed 100 yards passing until the 4th quarter.  This was a game that ended on the first drive, but the hiccup just made it seem close for a moment.

 

6 - Pass Rush - While there are so many things to focus on in this game, I would feel remiss to not address our season trend of a dominant pass rush.  Washington was able to neutralize our front 4 in this game, but we did manage to move the pocket a little.  Credit to Heinicke for being as mobile as he was to avoid the slight pressure we did create.  I specifically watched AJ and Groot get sucked up into 1 on 1 blocks with little success.  To be clear, our defense was dominant and our front 4 has overall been great, but it felt important to track their progress in their game as I know it's a point of optimism for many. 

 

7 - Williams - With four 1st round picks on the Washington defensive line and Chase Young being one of them, I was curious to see how our blocking assignments would go.  Apparently, eat your Wheaties and do your job was the plan.  Williams was a monster at right tackle and looked to be assigned to handle Young all by himself most of the game.  Young was able to get some momentum to the backfield, but Williams was able to direct his movement well.  Josh's jersey stayed clean all game and it was massively thanks to Williams being able to handle Young, thus allowing the rest of the line to focus on the other guys.  This is not to say Dawkins didn't have a great game too, but Williams had the much tougher assignment. 

 

8 - Stepbrothers - The law firm of Hyde and Poyer was open for business in this game as both had great interceptions.  Granted, the throws shouldn't have been made in the first place, but they were in position with speed and conviction each time.  These guys were all over the field in this game, leading a fantastic effort by the entire secondary.  You can see how they feed off each other and Poyer continues to be one of my favorite free agent signings of the last decade.  When the front 4 didn't have it today, the secondary said " I got this" and handled business.

 

9 - Beeeezzzzz - Quietly having a double digit catch day, Beasley was living rent free in the Washington secondary all game.  Beasley was an absolute zone killer and consistent safety blanket for Josh, as he had zero issues finding him after making all his reads.  Beyond just the bail outs, Beasley had great YAC.  In a game where Sanders had two touchdowns and Diggs finally started getting into a rhythm, it was Beasley who seemed like the back breaker against Washington as he kept moving the chains and no one could seem to find him on the field besides Josh. 

 

10 - Edmunds - In a game where everything went well and almost every player seemed to have a highlight reel play, Edmunds was a concern for me again.  True to fashion, I am going to stop talking about Edmunds in post game thoughts going forward unless something major occurs.  What makes Edmunds stand out to me is big plays everyone around him makes.  Milano was great in coverage and you could see him cover his zone, keep the defender in the back of his eye, and make a break if thrown that way to bat it down.  Edmunds seems to react to everything without any anticipation.  He missed a few tackles and most of Logan Thomas' catches were in his zone.  Again, we had a great defensive effort, but I would like to start seeing Edmunds start making some plays that constitute his 5th year option and potential contract extension.  The idea of this defense with a play making middle linebacker is absolutely terrifying. 

 

There are so many thoughts I couldn't express about this game and I'm relying on a continuation of this dominance going forward to talk about them in the future.  I can't say enough about Milano on this team and how happy I am to see 2020 Josh on the field.  In a week where the Lions gave the Ravens a tough game (watch the Tucker kick if you haven't already). and the Chiefs lost again, the Bills look good at 2-1 with a strong defense and awakening offense. 

Go Bills!

 

Edmunds had a very nice pass batted down that only occurred because of his massive wingspan at the LOS where he jumped up and put his arms up and the ball hit the top part of his hand.  Other than that I didn't notice him much.  But honestly he must not be that bad if he is the captain of a defense that hasn't allowed 300 yards in total offense yet this season once, and with 73 of those yards in this game coming on a single play...

Edited September 27, 2021 by Big Turk

[H2o]

I said before the game in a thread last week that Sanders would have his best game of the year thus far and that Knox would have a handful of catches with a TD. Check and check. The OL was good enough, the RB's did enough to keep them off balance, and Josh handled business. This is a scary team when we are clicking on offense and defense. 

[LeGOATski]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Edmunds had a very nice pass batted down that only occurred because of his massive wingspan at the LOS where he jumped up and put his arms up and the ball hit the top part of his hand.  Other than that I didn't notice him much.  But honestly he must not be that bad if he is the captain of a defense that hasn't allowed 300 yards in total offense yet this season once, and with 73 of those yards in this game coming on a single play...

He has to shut down the intermediate middle and cover RBs and slot receivers half his size. It's not often a glamorous role.

 

There's tons of space out there, so a good QB will find spots to fit the ball, while a bad QB still has no chance. I think a good thing to focus on is how we'll both LBs have held up in run defense compared to last year. With the D line playing as well as they have, Milano and Edmunds have had no problem plugging gaps. I think back to that play last week where both of them got to Gaskins in the backfield.

 

The young DEs and Star seem to be having a biggest impact so far.

[Irv]

Great summary.  I kept saying to my wife how we blew it letting Logan Thomas go.  Of all the great things Beane has done I think he whiffed on him and Wyatt Teller.  Oddly both from Virginia Tech.

 

  

Edited September 27, 2021 by Irv

[Might Rather]

I like all your points as always, but this opening paragraph is great! Thanks for the good read once again.

[Big Turk]

4 minutes ago, Irv said:

Great summary.  I kept saying to my wife how we blew it letting Logan Thomas go.  Of all the great things Beane has done I think he whiffed on him and Wyatt Teller.  Oddly both from Virginia Tech.  

 

Thomas just wasn't anywhere near the player he is now.  It wasn't a whiff, more like he deserves credit for working hard and improving tremendously since his time here.  I can't blame Beane for not seeing a project player that raw would develop into what he is now 4 years later.

[Beerball]

37 minutes ago, Virgil said:

You know that feeling when you think you left your phone somewhere while out shopping?  There's a little bit of panic and self doubt as you wonder where you could have left it and you start strategizing how you will track it, recover your photos, convince the store it was stolen so you warranty covers it, yadda yadda yadda.  After hours of internal self-scrutiny, you reach your hand into your other pocket and find it, realize that only second have passed, and that wave of assurance rushes over you.  You remember that your other hand was full of groceries at the time, so you put it in the abnormal pocket, and there was never any real cause for concern in the first place.  Ladies and Gentlemen, Josh was simply in the other pocket.  

 

1 - Our Quarterback - Josh took a few steps back, looked downfield, then checked to the swing, before firing a bullet over Motor's head.  70 thousand fans all sighed and accepted that today was going to be more of the same from Allen today and hopefully the defense is still up to the task.  And then, just as quickly as that feeling grew, it was over.  Josh was back, and Josh was brilliant.  Josh was making throws on the run, across his body, while being tackled and all of them right on the money.  He showed touch on the deep ball, didn't throw into coverage unless only our guy could get it, and as many fans have said, brought 2020 Josh out again.  His best throw of the day was incomplete and largely due to the wind, which even affected long snaps to the punter.  Diggs broke free deep and Allen made the throw as soon as he saw the safety break.  As he threw it, Josh was off his feet while getting tackled high and low by two defenders.  The wind caught the ball in the air and drifted it away from Diggs.  Had the wind not been there, I personally believe Diggs makes that catch and Josh breaks the rules of physics again because no quarterback should be able to make that throw.  For me, I was back to counting on one hand all the throws he missed, watching him dance around incoming defenders with ease, and expecting every single throw to be a solid gain.  And with Josh coming back to form, all his receivers came back with him.

 

2 - Knox - For a player so up and down, it's hard to feel comfortable ever declaring him "fixed."  However, if there were a game for that, this is it.  Knox was an absolute stud on the field in every capacity as a tight end.  He blocked well, he found space well, he showed good hands, and he made a ridiculous catch from Allen that showed trust in the throw, field awareness, and just overall domination of a defender.  More impressively to me is where Knox was lined up.  Daboll did a great job of putting Knox on the line as a blocker and mixing up his routes versus blocks.  Knox would have two hands on the ground most plays, then sneak down the seem.  The touchdown was the little extra that makes you understand why Josh and the coaching staff keep giving him a chance.

 

3 - Daboll - Many, including myself, have criticized Daboll's ability to mix in a rushing attack without neutering the passing attack.  Against Washington, Daboll seemed to find that mix perfectly.  The rushes came out of multiple formations and he effectively rotates Motor and Moss to utilize their strengths.  Motor wasn't overly impressive, but wasn't a hindrance.  Moss made the most of his carries and catches and also showed why the coaches leaned more his way at the end of last season.  I still hope they keep the rotation as they have different skill sets.  For the second straight week, the second level blocking was on point.  For a Washington Defense that is claimed to be very good this year, they had absolutely no answer for Daboll's game plan. 

 

4 - When she couldn't hold she folded
A dissident is here
Escape is never the safest path
Oh, a dissidence, a dissident is here, oh!

 

5 - The Hiccup - I don't know what else to call the 14 points scored by Washington before half.  They called a screen to the weak side just as we called a heavy blitz to the strong side.  This left Gibson with a wall of blockers, few defenders in front of him, and speed to get him the whole way.  Then, as if the wind wasn't obvious, no one noticed the ball almost spin backwards above the 10 on the following kickoff, allowing Washington to recover a very elaborate onside kick.  Washington capitalized on the field position and made it a one score game.  However, Josh got the ball back, kept working his magic, let Bass boom a monster field goal before half, and we never looked back.  I call it a hiccup because this game was completely dominated by the Bills.  If you remove that screen pass, Heinicke wouldn't have eclipsed 100 yards passing until the 4th quarter.  This was a game that ended on the first drive, but the hiccup just made it seem close for a moment.

 

6 - Pass Rush - While there are so many things to focus on in this game, I would feel remiss to not address our season trend of a dominant pass rush.  Washington was able to neutralize our front 4 in this game, but we did manage to move the pocket a little.  Credit to Heinicke for being as mobile as he was to avoid the slight pressure we did create.  I specifically watched AJ and Groot get sucked up into 1 on 1 blocks with little success.  To be clear, our defense was dominant and our front 4 has overall been great, but it felt important to track their progress in their game as I know it's a point of optimism for many. 

 

7 - Williams - With four 1st round picks on the Washington defensive line and Chase Young being one of them, I was curious to see how our blocking assignments would go.  Apparently, eat your Wheaties and do your job was the plan.  Williams was a monster at right tackle and looked to be assigned to handle Young all by himself most of the game.  Young was able to get some momentum to the backfield, but Williams was able to direct his movement well.  Josh's jersey stayed clean all game and it was massively thanks to Williams being able to handle Young, thus allowing the rest of the line to focus on the other guys.  This is not to say Dawkins didn't have a great game too, but Williams had the much tougher assignment. 

 

8 - Stepbrothers - The law firm of Hyde and Poyer was open for business in this game as both had great interceptions.  Granted, the throws shouldn't have been made in the first place, but they were in position with speed and conviction each time.  These guys were all over the field in this game, leading a fantastic effort by the entire secondary.  You can see how they feed off each other and Poyer continues to be one of my favorite free agent signings of the last decade.  When the front 4 didn't have it today, the secondary said " I got this" and handled business.

 

9 - Beeeezzzzz - Quietly having a double digit catch day, Beasley was living rent free in the Washington secondary all game.  Beasley was an absolute zone killer and consistent safety blanket for Josh, as he had zero issues finding him after making all his reads.  Beyond just the bail outs, Beasley had great YAC.  In a game where Sanders had two touchdowns and Diggs finally started getting into a rhythm, it was Beasley who seemed like the back breaker against Washington as he kept moving the chains and no one could seem to find him on the field besides Josh. 

 

10 - Edmunds - In a game where everything went well and almost every player seemed to have a highlight reel play, Edmunds was a concern for me again.  True to fashion, I am going to stop talking about Edmunds in post game thoughts going forward unless something major occurs.  What makes Edmunds stand out to me is big plays everyone around him makes.  Milano was great in coverage and you could see him cover his zone, keep the defender in the back of his eye, and make a break if thrown that way to bat it down.  Edmunds seems to react to everything without any anticipation.  He missed a few tackles and most of Logan Thomas' catches were in his zone.  Again, we had a great defensive effort, but I would like to start seeing Edmunds start making some plays that constitute his 5th year option and potential contract extension.  The idea of this defense with a play making middle linebacker is absolutely terrifying. 

 

There are so many thoughts I couldn't express about this game and I'm relying on a continuation of this dominance going forward to talk about them in the future.  I can't say enough about Milano on this team and how happy I am to see 2020 Josh on the field.  In a week where the Lions gave the Ravens a tough game (watch the Tucker kick if you haven't already). and the Chiefs lost again, the Bills look good at 2-1 with a strong defense and awakening offense. 

Go Bills!

Maybe time to change the narrative re Knox?  From SWAT in the box:  

 

 

[LeGOATski]

7 minutes ago, Irv said:

Great summary.  I kept saying to my wife how we blew it letting Logan Thomas go.  Of all the great things Beane has done I think he whiffed on him and Wyatt Teller.  Oddly both from Virginia Tech.  

True story. Beane's a Hokie hater.

 

Got rid of Tyrod, Teller, and Thomas.

 

Next up is Tremaine.

[WhoTom]

Great summary, Virg.

 

Regarding Edmunds, I agree that others are making the big plays around him, but I can't help but wonder if, based on the scheme and the role he's asked to play, he enables those big plays simply by doing his job well.

[RoyBatty is alive]

I thought Edmunds was ok yesterday imo.

 

And yes the Know catch was specatuvclar BUT you neglected that he had one pass hit his hands that went in the air almost intercepted, granted it was not a well placed ball but Know was lucky not to be credited with creating a turnover.

[Rico]

Edmunds can forever be in my good graces if he beats the crap out of Kelce in 2 weeks. 

[Clark Rotary]

30 minutes ago, Might Rather said:

I like all your points as always, but this opening paragraph is great! Thanks for the good read once again.

Agreed, and just like that, Virgil returns to MVP form this year also!

[LeGOATski]

12 minutes ago, Rico said:

Edmunds can forever be in my good graces if he beats the crap out of Kelce in 2 weeks. 

Who has beaten Kelce so far? Is it on the LBs or the safeties?

[Rico]

1 minute ago, LeGOATski said:

Who has beaten Kelce so far? Is it on the LBs or the safeties?

Somebody needs to kick his ass, it might as well be Edmunds. 

[Punching Bag]

54 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Edmunds had a very nice pass batted down that only occurred because of his massive wingspan at the LOS where he jumped up and put his arms up and the ball hit the top part of his hand.  Other than that I didn't notice him much.  But honestly he must not be that bad if he is the captain of a defense that hasn't allowed 300 yards in total offense yet this season once, and with 73 of those yards in this game coming on a single play...

 

He also made the tackle at sideline on third down preventing them from making 1st.  

[DCbillsfan]

I watched the Bills oline fairly closely.  Williams did a nice job against Chase Young.  He was able to maintain contact with Young and push him around Allen on several drop backs. Ford had his hands full with 94 Daron Payne.  Payne was just too quick off the ball.  Ford hung tough though and Allen was very good at making his reads, delivering quick throws which helped neutralize the pass rush.

[Punching Bag]

32 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

True story. Beane's a Hokie hater.

 

Got rid of Tyrod, Teller, and Thomas.

 

Next up is Tremaine.

 

Maybe he just does not like the letter T.

[gdabillsfan]

I was going to post this in its own thread while I was waiting for Virgil or Shaw's threads, but here it is, so I am posting here

 

Ok it's Monday morning, I'm bored , it's raining (again), walking the dogs is not going to happen, and apparently I have too many thougts swirling in my brain and I need to let some out (excuse me in advance, this may be like passing gas in public) , but here goes.

 

After a great win like yesterdays everyone deserves their props

Allen broke out of his slump and had a great game. He was sharp on his throws, he moved well in the pocket, and looked the part (MVP level)we expected from him based on last year. He and Sanders finally connected and produced 2 tds, and were in sync with the long balls. It was also encouraging to see Sanders have a breakout game,  I admit to being a bit underwhelmed by him until now. I was wondering with him being old (in football years) that maybe his best football had already been played, but yesterday he performed superbly.

 

Nice pass distribution, Allen got everyone involved

 

Beasely had a  monster game catching everything thrown his way, some were

tough catches too.

Our much maligned starting TE. Knox, caught all the passes thrown his way also, and he made a spectacular play on his TD catch, amazingly was able to stay inbounds.

 

Diggs seemed to have a quiet game, but he had timely and clutch catches on the FG drive at the end of the 1st half. He also dug in and did the dirty work, he had several key blocks that freed up Moss and the other receivers to do their thing.  

 

Moss was more decisive, better today than Singletary.he showed a burst on the delay rushes and on the off tackle runs. He found the soft spot in the zone and reacted well moving back  to allen on some passing plays giving him easy targets.

 

Singletary had a couple of nice runs, best  when he quickly hits the holes and is decisive with his cuts.

 

The O line did nice job today, they gave Allen time to go through his reads, and maintained a solid pocket for him to step up and avoid the rush

 

The Defense

 

What can I say, the defense has come to play in all 3 games so far. They had one lapse yesterday on the screen pass play that turned into a 73 yd. TD.,but overall had another good game. The secondary was superb, props to all. Milano's play has been spectacular whether he is defending passes or the run. I believe he had a couple of tfl's and a sack yesterday, and of course the fumble recovery after Tre knocked the ball away from WFT's TE.

 

"The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind"

 

But not yesterday

 

Mckenzie seems to have an issue when he has to come to the ball, I'm not sure if it's visual or what. On the kickoff, whether it was by play design by WFT (the announcers seemed to think so) , or just dumb luck the way the wind affected the kick, as he came up to catch it he totally misjudged where he needed to be. If he could of caught it on the run, it probably would of been a big play for the Bills, but once the ball hit the turf all bets were off and the took off in an unexpected way. I  noticed the same thing on his muffed punts, I hope this doesn't become a thing with him, because I like him as a returner.

 

Matakevich had an off day, but we all do sometimes

 

"This game is dedicated to the ones we 💘"

 

My condolences to Coach Daboll and his family. I was touched by JA, and his comments about when he lost his Grandma that Daboll was the first one to console him. It's telling how close this team is, they arent  just teammates they are family.

 

While I am on the subject of family. We are overjoyed to announce the newest member of our family, as our new

Great Grandson Evan was born on Friday.👶

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

Your saying Josh is our pocket boy?

He's definitely mine As is@Virgil...

[LeGOATski]

12 minutes ago, Rico said:

Somebody needs to kick his ass, it might as well be Edmunds. 

That'd be cool, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it won't happen

[Virgil]

7 minutes ago, gdabillsfan said:

I was going to post this in its own thread while I was waiting for Virgil or Shaw's threads, but here it is, so I am posting here

 

Ok it's Monday morning, I'm bored , it's raining (again), walking the dogs is not going to happen, and apparently I have too many thougts swirling in my brain and I need to let some out (excuse me in advance, this may be like passing gas in public) , but here goes.

 

After a great win like yesterdays everyone deserves their props

Allen broke out of his slump and had a great game. He was sharp on his throws, he moved well in the pocket, and looked the part (MVP level)we expected from him based on last year. He and Sanders finally connected and produced 2 tds, and were in sync with the long balls. It was also encouraging to see Sanders have a breakout game,  I admit to being a bit underwhelmed by him until now. I was wondering with him being old (in football years) that maybe his best football had already been played, but yesterday he performed superbly.

 

Nice pass distribution, Allen got everyone involved

 

Beasely had a  monster game catching everything thrown his way, some were

tough catches too.

Our much maligned starting TE. Knox, caught all the passes thrown his way also, and he made a spectacular play on his TD catch, amazingly was able to stay inbounds.

 

Diggs seemed to have a quiet game, but he had timely and clutch catches on the FG drive at the end of the 1st half. He also dug in and did the dirty work, he had several key blocks that freed up Moss and the other receivers to do their thing.  

 

Moss was more decisive, better today than Singletary.he showed a burst on the delay rushes and on the off tackle runs. He found the soft spot in the zone and reacted well moving back  to allen on some passing plays giving him easy targets.

 

Singletary had a couple of nice runs, best  when he quickly hits the holes and is decisive with his cuts.

 

The O line did nice job today, they gave Allen time to go through his reads, and maintained a solid pocket for him to step up and avoid the rush

 

The Defense

 

What can I say, the defense has come to play in all 3 games so far. They had one lapse yesterday on the screen pass play that turned into a 73 yd. TD.,but overall had another good game. The secondary was superb, props to all. Milano's play has been spectacular whether he is defending passes or the run. I believe he had a couple of tfl's and a sack yesterday, and of course the fumble recovery after Tre knocked the ball away from WFT's TE.

 

"The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind"

 

But not yesterday

 

Mckenzie seems to have an issue when he has to come to the ball, I'm not sure if it's visual or what. On the kickoff, whether it was by play design by WFT (the announcers seemed to think so) , or just dumb luck the way the wind affected the kick, as he came up to catch it he totally misjudged where he needed to be. If he could of caught it on the run, it probably would of been a big play for the Bills, but once the ball hit the turf all bets were off and the took off in an unexpected way. I  noticed the same thing on his muffed punts, I hope this doesn't become a thing with him, because I like him as a returner.

 

Matakevich had an off day, but we all do sometimes

 

"This game is dedicated to the ones we 💘"

 

My condolences to Coach Daboll and his family. I was touched by JA, and his comments about when he lost his Grandma that Daboll was the first one to console him. It's telling how close this team is, they arent  just teammates they are family.

 

While I am on the subject of family. We are overjoyed to announce the newest member of our family, as our new

Great Grandson Evan was born on Friday.👶

Well done 

[LeGOATski]

9 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Maybe he just does not like the letter T.

As in "Tech"...

[BuffaloBill]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

The critiques of Tremaine Edmunds play are truly flabbergasting 

 

It’s a hobby for some. He is the whipping boy.

[Rico]

33 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

That'd be cool, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it won't happen

I think Siran Neal might have it in him, but Edmunds makes the most sense. Just bash him at the line of scrimmage.

Edited September 27, 2021 by Rico

[Captain_Quint]

Oline did well with Young and Sweat, and Dawkins handled his side beautifully all game (good to see him in game shape).

 

Cody Ford vs Payne was a mismatch for Ford most of the game. Payne came free a number of times, but Josh stepped around him. Eventually Ford realized that all he really needed to do was let Payne run himself upfield and out of the play. Williams did this with Young as well, and Josh was able to step up into a clear pocket with those two guys behind him. 

[cwater10]

2 hours ago, Virgil said:

You know that feeling when you think you left your phone somewhere while out shopping?  There's a little bit of panic and self doubt as you wonder where you could have left it and you start strategizing how you will track it, recover your photos, convince the store it was stolen so you warranty covers it, yadda yadda yadda.  After hours of internal self-scrutiny, you reach your hand into your other pocket and find it, realize that only second have passed, and that wave of assurance rushes over you.  You remember that your other hand was full of groceries at the time, so you put it in the abnormal pocket, and there was never any real cause for concern in the first place.  Ladies and Gentlemen, Josh was simply in the other pocket.  

 

Wordsmith!

[DallasMac]

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

True story. Beane's a Hokie hater.

 

Got rid of Tyrod, Teller, and Thomas.

 

Next up is Tremaine.

Don't forget about Cam Phillips.  

Edited September 27, 2021 by DallasMac

[RobbRiddick]

Virgil, have you ever thought about adapting this into a weekly podcast or YouTube video. I think that would be good. I imagine it being read out in a slightly deadpan, monotone voice. Obviously you wouldn't be able to add the songs for copyright reasons (or maybe you are allowed to add a 30 second sample).

 

Anyway, I think it'd be good, throw in a few pictures and video highlights of the game. I'd watch it!

[LeGOATski]

3 minutes ago, DallasMac said:

Don't forget about Cam Phillips.  

Yeah... Beane was like "Go to Texas...the Tiger-Cats...or Toronto!"

[2003Contenders]

The biggest key to me was watching how COMFORTABLE Josh looked. He never seemed to panic, was always under control, trusted his linemen -- and when protection did break down, reacted to it calmly with a little side-step here or there. I believe that this mindset also led to much better mechanics for him than we saw in the first couple of games.

[Bad Things]

This may be the first game where a kicker recovers their own kickoff (Hopkins) AND the QB caught their own pass.  (Heinicke)

 

Edited September 27, 2021 by Bad Things

[gdabillsfan]

4 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

This may be the first game where a kicker received their own kick AND the QB caught their own pass.

 

Guess that's just the way the ball bounces😉

[Mark Vader]

2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I thought Edmunds was ok yesterday imo.

 

And yes the Know catch was specatuvclar BUT you neglected that he had one pass hit his hands that went in the air almost intercepted, granted it was not a well placed ball but Know was lucky not to be credited with creating a turnover.

First, that pass was thrown behind Knox.

 

Second, he could only get one hand on the ball. It did not hit him in both of his hands.

 

Nice try on attempting to implicate Knox on a would be dropped pass. Which it wasn't.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

The critiques of Tremaine Edmunds play are truly flabbergasting 

It seems like he's always missing big,obvious tackles or running himself our of the play when he shows up in the broadcast lol maybe he's just unlucky and he's playing well for all the other plays idk.  But I can def see why he gets criticized around here 

[Utah John]

Edmunds is a key part of the Bills' team defense.  He is not not supposed to be making highlight plays on a regular basis.  He's supposed to be taking a large portion of the field away from use by the offense, and he does that.  

 

Remember the old BASF commercials?  We don't make (fill in the blank), we make (fill in the blank) better.  Edmunds job is to do what he's doing which makes all the other players more effective.  

 

The Bills entire team is set up to work as complete units.  We got used to Diggs making lots of catches last year but the offense is actually more lethal when more players are catching balls.  The same principle applies with the defense.  Some teams have MLBs that make a ton of tackles, but their overall defense doesn't work that well.  I will take what I see from the Bills all day every day.

[Chandler#81]

2 hours ago, gdabillsfan said:

I was going to post this in its own thread while I was waiting for Virgil or Shaw's threads, but here it is, so I am posting here

 

Ok it's Monday morning, I'm bored , it's raining (again), walking the dogs is not going to happen, and apparently I have too many thougts swirling in my brain and I need to let some out (excuse me in advance, this may be like passing gas in public) , but here goes.

 

After a great win like yesterdays everyone deserves their props

Allen broke out of his slump and had a great game. He was sharp on his throws, he moved well in the pocket, and looked the part (MVP level)we expected from him based on last year. He and Sanders finally connected and produced 2 tds, and were in sync with the long balls. It was also encouraging to see Sanders have a breakout game,  I admit to being a bit underwhelmed by him until now. I was wondering with him being old (in football years) that maybe his best football had already been played, but yesterday he performed superbly.

 

Nice pass distribution, Allen got everyone involved

 

Beasely had a  monster game catching everything thrown his way, some were

tough catches too.

Our much maligned starting TE. Knox, caught all the passes thrown his way also, and he made a spectacular play on his TD catch, amazingly was able to stay inbounds.

 

Diggs seemed to have a quiet game, but he had timely and clutch catches on the FG drive at the end of the 1st half. He also dug in and did the dirty work, he had several key blocks that freed up Moss and the other receivers to do their thing.  

 

Moss was more decisive, better today than Singletary.he showed a burst on the delay rushes and on the off tackle runs. He found the soft spot in the zone and reacted well moving back  to allen on some passing plays giving him easy targets.

 

Singletary had a couple of nice runs, best  when he quickly hits the holes and is decisive with his cuts.

 

The O line did nice job today, they gave Allen time to go through his reads, and maintained a solid pocket for him to step up and avoid the rush

 

The Defense

 

What can I say, the defense has come to play in all 3 games so far. They had one lapse yesterday on the screen pass play that turned into a 73 yd. TD.,but overall had another good game. The secondary was superb, props to all. Milano's play has been spectacular whether he is defending passes or the run. I believe he had a couple of tfl's and a sack yesterday, and of course the fumble recovery after Tre knocked the ball away from WFT's TE.

 

"The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind"

 

But not yesterday

 

Mckenzie seems to have an issue when he has to come to the ball, I'm not sure if it's visual or what. On the kickoff, whether it was by play design by WFT (the announcers seemed to think so) , or just dumb luck the way the wind affected the kick, as he came up to catch it he totally misjudged where he needed to be. If he could of caught it on the run, it probably would of been a big play for the Bills, but once the ball hit the turf all bets were off and the took off in an unexpected way. I  noticed the same thing on his muffed punts, I hope this doesn't become a thing with him, because I like him as a returner.

 

Matakevich had an off day, but we all do sometimes

 

"This game is dedicated to the ones we 💘"

 

My condolences to Coach Daboll and his family. I was touched by JA, and his comments about when he lost his Grandma that Daboll was the first one to console him. It's telling how close this team is, they arent  just teammates they are family.

 

While I am on the subject of family. We are overjoyed to announce the newest member of our family, as our new

Great Grandson Evan was born on Friday.👶

You got the job! When can you start?