Malazan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: It's only easy until teams decide they're shutting down the short to intermediate stuff, and make you beat them deep. Crazy how people forget that considering we had 10-15 qbs during the drought stuck in the same mold. You don't have to be a deep ball team, but if they don't have to respect it, they wont and an NFL defense will always eat up a team like that I have no idea how you thought I said what you think I said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I have no idea how you thought I said what you think I said Maybe I projected the general sentiment if the thread onto your post, sry if I did. Seemed like everyone was talking about NE and Mac "looking good", but playing dink and dunk ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Maybe I projected the general sentiment if the thread onto your post, sry if I did. Seemed like everyone was talking about NE and Mac "looking good", but playing dink and dunk ball. Ya Didn’t everyone say the same thing about Brady? He is just a dunk and dunk QB? They never stopped him. The silly thing is no team can! The long ball is easy to stop because it has a much lower percentage for completion. So if you build your team be just a home run threat you will suck. (No the Bills are not built for just a homer in threat Most of your WR are possession WR like Sanders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 12 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Miami’s offense looks worse than last year and their defense looks like it’s regressed. I don’t think Josh and company are gonna have a hard time with Miami. But I’m glad to see New England lose at home week 1. we probably shouldn't criticize a divisional opponent that won their opener on the road after the way we played yesterday 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Maybe I projected the general sentiment if the thread onto your post, sry if I did. Seemed like everyone was talking about NE and Mac "looking good", but playing dink and dunk ball. He wasn't though, did you watch the game? He was in a few 3rd and long facing a miami blitz quite often and made great throws. In general there were a few strikes right up the middle over 20 yards and a couple strikes toward the side lines as well. You are the first person i heard say he was "dinking and dunking" Edited September 13, 2021 by Ghost_002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 The thing is, New England's Defense is quietly a pretty good one. That's not to say I don't think the Bills are the better team or that they shouldn't win, but let's not discount the win for Miami going into New England for their Home Opener and beating the Pats in a close game. In years past, this would have gone New England's way in some fashion and Miami would be taking the 'L'. Buffalo better take Miami seriously or we'll be staring at 0-2 and a long haul back into contention. I think you saw Washington play a strong game as well and their Defense is for real. Buffalo has a championship caliber roster, and I've loved McD and Daboll together since it happened, but some of the decisions need to be better and Dawkins might need to sit for two weeks or at least rotate in more frequently while COVID effects are diminished for the Offense to achieve their lofty goals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Ghost_002! said: He wasn't though, did you watch the game? He was in a few 3rd and long facing a miami blitz quite often and made great throws. In general there were a few strikes right up the middle over 20 yards and a couple strikes toward the side lines as well. You are the first person i heard say he was "dinking and dunking" I watched every pass (because I'm a psycho). It was textbook dink & dunk. I don't think dink & dunk is a bad thing, and it was a very good debut. But right now, I see a lot of coaching & scheme that made a debut like that possible. Jones looked like the guy who most scouts say he is. Ready to come in day 1, but w/ a limited ceiling. The kind of game he plays is great for games where it's close or the Pats have the lead. If they get behind by more than a score, he'll need to do a lot more than he did yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Success said: I watched every pass (because I'm a psycho). It was textbook dink & dunk. I don't think dink & dunk is a bad thing, and it was a very good debut. But right now, I see a lot of coaching & scheme that made a debut like that possible. Jones looked like the guy who most scouts say he is. Ready to come in day 1, but w/ a limited ceiling. The kind of game he plays is great for games where it's close or the Pats have the lead. If they get behind by more than a score, he'll need to do a lot more than he did yesterday. I hear what you are saying. I look at it more as they game plan to help the rookie along more because..he is a rookie, but he made 39 pass attempts(with a vary of different throws) and was put in situations (3rd and long) where that "just dinking and dunking" was not gonna do it. And don't get me wrong, i know you arent saying anything bad at all. I just think he look more like a QB that could last long in this league and he could handle the "regular" load most franchise QBs can handle once he is a season vet. I honestly think he will be able to handle being down 2 scores at some point this season and over come it. At some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Josh sucked yesterday. Plain and simple…. If he plays like that all year the Bills are a fringe playoff team. Give it a rest Scott your negativity is barely tolerable when the team does well 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 They're barely in 1st place in the AFCE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I thought New England and Miami both looked not even remotely threatening yesterday. If the Bills lose to Miami, I agree that it will be time for a modestly-sized freak-out, but I really don't expect that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Admittedly, I did not see that game since the Bills were on and I was at the stadium. But.... I pegged both Miami and New England to be wild card contenders this year, so it is not a shock they played each other close. After one great season, Bills fans are really not giving enough credit to a lot teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 15 hours ago, Success said: Did anyone see the game? Patriots fans are over the moon about Mac. From what I could see just on the internet, it seemed like he was just making 7 yard passes all day. Which is fine, but much more game manager than QB threat to worry about. I spent several hours yesterday wishing a certain Buffalo qb would make 7 yard passes all day. 3 hours ago, Ghost_002! said: He wasn't though, did you watch the game? He was in a few 3rd and long facing a miami blitz quite often and made great throws. In general there were a few strikes right up the middle over 20 yards and a couple strikes toward the side lines as well. You are the first person i heard say he was "dinking and dunking" Does the Bills offense ever attempt passes like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: I hear what you are saying. I look at it more as they game plan to help the rookie along more because..he is a rookie, but he made 39 pass attempts(with a vary of different throws) and was put in situations (3rd and long) where that "just dinking and dunking" was not gonna do it. And don't get me wrong, i know you arent saying anything bad at all. I just think he look more like a QB that could last long in this league and he could handle the "regular" load most franchise QBs can handle once he is a season vet. I honestly think he will be able to handle being down 2 scores at some point this season and over come it. At some point. Well, it's early - but I'd agree overall that the Pats have their guy. Particularly while BB is HC, but I'm sure beyond that. He's definitely a good QB. You guys are really pretty lucky to go from Bledsoe to Brady to now Jones. Most teams have years where they struggle to find the right QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, Success said: Well, it's early - but I'd agree overall that the Pats have their guy. Particularly while BB is HC, but I'm sure beyond that. He's definitely a good QB. You guys are really pretty lucky to go from Bledsoe to Brady to now Jones. Most teams have years where they struggle to find the right QB. you mean like the JETs ha ha...i mean they had to go high in the draft for a QB twice, in a five year span! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said: you mean like the JETs ha ha...i mean they had to go high in the draft for a QB twice, in a five year span! The key IMO is having the right coach and system in place for a QB. For example IMO Allen is succeeding because of McD, I also believe Jones will succeed because of BB, While I am expecting Wilson to implode because the Jets are run so damn poorly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 14 hours ago, That's No Moon said: It's funny, when the balls are fully inflated that is more of an issue.... Not Bills related, but I love your user name and pic! It just made me go back and watch that scene from Episode IV on my computer, haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 If Allen plays like his usual self against Miami I have a hard time seeing this team lose, but what the Dolphins did yesterday matters because they won and it doesn't matter what the margin of victory was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, without a drought said: They're barely in 1st place in the AFCE. The Bills can take over with a win next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Mango said: I pegged both Miami and New England to be wild card contenders this year, so it is not a shock they played each other close. After one great season, Bills fans are really not giving enough credit to a lot teams. Yep. The whole premise of this thread is flawed and buffoonish. Neither the Dolphins nor the Patriots* are bad teams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, NickelCity said: Yep. The whole premise of this thread is flawed and buffoonish. Neither the Dolphins nor the Patriots* are bad teams. I watched the entire Fish vs. Pats game yesterday and agree with you. Mac Jones had an excellent game for his first ever start. Tua is still flawed IMO but not as bad as Bills fans paint him. We will have tough games against both of these teams, 4 times this year. We may win all four of them! But they won't be easy! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 The nagging question for me is this: why do the Patriots get 2 decades of futility from the other teams in the division when they have a great team, but as soon as the Bills finally get it together, it looks like the division could be super-competitive top to bottom? More of a whine, actually. And I suppose the Pats had something to do w/ that, since there was so much QB & coaching turnover as the other teams tried to compete w/ a team like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I watched the entire Fish vs. Pats game yesterday and agree with you. Mac Jones had an excellent game for his first ever start. Tua is still flawed IMO but not as bad as Bills fans paint him. We will have tough games against both of these teams, 4 times this year. We may win all four of them! But they won't be easy! Tua looked better than I expected he would. I've been down on him, but he looks more healthy w/regard to his hip. The ball came out with a lot more zip than last season. Jones was very good and should have walked away with a win. That's the issue with 12-play drives, though -- more opportunities for mistakes. Edited September 13, 2021 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Have any of you guys ever read miami 'finheaven' forums? There's some great stuff here especially all the overreaction and confidence that they are going to smash the Bills with us only scoring in garbage time: https://finheaven.com/threads/final-score-buffalo-bills-v-miami-dolphins.368105/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Have any of you guys ever read miami 'finheaven' forums? There's some great stuff here especially all the overreaction and confidence that they are going to smash the Bills with us only scoring in garbage time: https://finheaven.com/threads/final-score-buffalo-bills-v-miami-dolphins.368105/ Its a waste of your time. Phins fans are the most delusional fans in the world. If you talk to them everyone on their roster is an all-pro, about to be an all-pro, or a secret weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Its a waste of your time. Phins fans are the most delusional fans in the world. If you talk to them everyone on their roster is an all-pro, about to be an all-pro, or a secret weapon. and everyone here saying Bills are going to the Superbowl. All fans are the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, nucci said: and everyone here saying Bills are going to the Superbowl. All fans are the same Some of us forget way too soon. I was cringing when I saw the media picking the Bills as the Super Bowl favorites. If not for the Bills not too distant history, I am often reminded of the media picking the Browns, Chargers, and Jaguars as surprise favorites. But for as lofty as Bills fans ideals can be, I promise you the Phins' fans are way worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Does the Bills offense ever attempt passes like that? The shorter passes or the wheel route that Jones hit White on coming out the backfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 18 hours ago, Bangarang said: The logic here is baffling You have to read between the lines! It's all code!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 19 hours ago, MAJBobby said: MIA would have lost today but once again like often last year got lucky on TOs. waddle is going to be a playmaker in this league sooner than later. please try to Man up on us again 3rd time will not be your charm. Bingo. How often do the Pats have three turnovers, not very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Success said: The nagging question for me is this: why do the Patriots get 2 decades of futility from the other teams in the division when they have a great team, but as soon as the Bills finally get it together, it looks like the division could be super-competitive top to bottom? More of a whine, actually. And I suppose the Pats had something to do w/ that, since there was so much QB & coaching turnover as the other teams tried to compete w/ a team like that. Easy answer. It comes down to the organizations getting the right coaching staff and having the right philosophy for their team (same as in any business) The pats were able to benefit from it early where as the rest of the division still had to find their way. You guys are definitely there now and if the Fins and the patriots can be competitive this division is gonna be fun to watch...A heart attack for us all as fans, but still some good back n forth football that will take place. 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: The Bills can take over with a win next week. No it would be a 3-way tie. Miami at 1-1 Bills at 1-1 And either pats or the jets at 1-1 Edited September 13, 2021 by Ghost_002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 We didn't lose twice in a row at all last year. If we do lose , which i don't expect, we're going to see that this clearly isn't a continuation of last year, which was expected , considering we bought back almost every starter. We'd be in legit trouble. Something we were never in last year either But I think we should be at least 4-2 by the bye which is the same record as last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: The Bills can take over with a win next week. That logic the Pats can take over with a win and a Dolphins loss too… lol let’s be honest next week there is a good possibility of 3 teams being 1-1 in the AFCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Have any of you guys ever read miami 'finheaven' forums? There's some great stuff here especially all the overreaction and confidence that they are going to smash the Bills with us only scoring in garbage time: https://finheaven.com/threads/final-score-buffalo-bills-v-miami-dolphins.368105/ I'd be happy and optimistic too. Pats D is tough, ours is too and only gave up 16 points but I'm just not that confident, everyone was super confident this week, I don't think it's going to be as easy as many think. Should be a dog fight realistically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: That logic the Pats can take over with a win and a Dolphins loss too… lol let’s be honest next week there is a good possibility of 3 teams being 1-1 in the AFCE. Which is as meaningless as all of the teams being 0-0 the 1st week. The Bills can get back on track w/ a win over the Dolphins. They should still be the clear division favorites. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Success said: Which is as meaningless as all of the teams being 0-0 the 1st week. The Bills can get back on track w/ a win over the Dolphins. They should still be the clear division favorites. I think if nothing else, week 1 proves the Bills are going to have to earn it, there are very few cheap W on their list of teams this year.. that includes their divisional rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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