Process Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) There is a protocol thread where Cole is being discussed but he probably deserves his own thread at this point. Im getting pretty dang close to rooting for the Bills to cut him. I was already thinking he's a candidate to get cut next off-season, might as well just do it now and let some of the young guys get some playing time. He makes it very clear he is not going to follow any protocols, which means he will spend the season getting fined and suspended. If he's not going to be available to play, why deal with the distraction? Edited June 18, 2021 by Process 6 10 3 1 7 4 2 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) If he's just talking about not following the restrictions outside the team facilities, going out meeting with family and what not if that being restricted is still a thing, then I don't really care, it's not restricted for just about anyone else I don't think, but if he's not going to follow the restrictions within the facilities then this is awfully hypocritical forcing his decision on everyone else around him there. Edited June 18, 2021 by Warcodered 4 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Where the hell is the players union to back him up? 17 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) Regardless of where you stand on the subject - one of our stars outwardly saying he will not abide by the rules of the league is a huge issue. We're now facing, at best, a season where Cole will be fined and suspended on the regular. Think we seriously need to prepare for a season without him, at this point. EDIT: And by "a season without him", I'm not implying we should cut him. I'm simply stating that habitually disregarding NFL rules will lead to him being suspended habitually. Edited June 18, 2021 by BillsFanForever19 8 1 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Can somebody give him his 5:00 feeding early? This is ridiculous. 21 2 3 2 6 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SCBills Posted June 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2021 Don’t blame him one bit. 65 4 7 1 1 2 1 8 2 8 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) I don’t agree that he should be cut but I also don’t think Beane CAN cut him due to the issues he had with his interview awhile back about whether he would cut an unvaccinated player. That would be a much bigger PR nightmare than whatever Beasley is doing on his own. Edited June 18, 2021 by YoloinOhio 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Regardless of where you stand on the subject - one of our stars outwardly saying he will not abide by the rules of the league is a huge issue. We're now facing, at best, a season where Cole will be fined and suspended on the regular. Think we seriously need to prepare for a season without him, at this point. I think only 2 teams have met the 85% threshold... Cole won’t be alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t agree that he should be cut but I also don’t think Beane CAN cut him due to the issues he had with his interview awhile back about whether he would cut an unvaccinated player. That would be a much bigger PR nightmare than whether Beasley is doing on his own. Not for being unvaccinated but for ignoring protocols he'd probably be fine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Cut 4 3 4 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Not for being unvaccinated but for ignoring protocols he'd probably be fine. Maybe but they could just fine him 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, SCBills said: I think only 2 teams have met the 85% threshold... Cole won’t be alone. It's not a matter of getting vaxed or not. It's a matter of Cole saying "I won't abide by the regulations put in place by the league". And he IS alone in saying that so far. It's one thing to not get vaxed. It's another to not get vaxed and then publicly say he won't follow the rules that state you'll be fined and suspended for not following. 18 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t agree that he should be cut but I also don’t think Beane CAN cut him due to the issues he had with his interview awhile back about whether he would cut an unvaccinated player. That would be a much bigger PR nightmare than whatever Beasley is doing on his own. "We respect each player's decision on the vaccination is their own, and while we continue to educate our players and hope they decide to get the vaccine, we know we have a number of players who will not, and are totally fine with that as they are still on the team. However, we also made a decision as a team to not speak out about it or let it become a distraction, and Cole was unable to follow that. Nor would he agree to follow the protocols agreed to by the NFL and NFLPA. We provided him plenty of ways and opportunities to contact his union reps and work with the NFLPA, but he was unwilling to do so. So we made the decision to move on since we are trying to stay unified as a team, and move forward into a re-opened 2021." -Brandon Beane Boom, cut. But if he's willing to retire over it all, than problem solved. Edited June 18, 2021 by DrDawkinstein 4 5 2 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Maybe but they could just fine him Sure I'm not advocating it but if he's breaking safety regulations that effect others them cutting him wouldn't be impossible I wouldn't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Don’t blame him one bit. Me neither! If I say anymore it would belong in the politics page. 2 3 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: Where the hell is the players union to back him up? He's rallying AGAINST the Player's Union right now. So why would they back him up? 3 1 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t agree that he should be cut but I also don’t think Beane CAN cut him due to the issues he had with his interview awhile back about whether he would cut an unvaccinated player. That would be a much bigger PR nightmare than whatever Beasley is doing on his own. He is publicly stating that he will be completely disregarding covid protocols. Meaning he will likely be spending the whole season getting fined/suspended, while being a huge distraction to the team. I don't see any reason to keep him if that's the case, and I can't see the Bills having any issues. If you don't want to spend 5 minutes getting a vaccine, follow protocols. If you refuse to follow protocols then get lost. 14 1 1 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: It's not a matter of getting vaxed or not. It's a matter of Cole saying "I won't abide by the regulations put in place by the league". And he IS alone in saying that so far. It's one thing to not get vaxed. It's another to not get vaxed and then publicly say he won't follow the rules that state you'll be fined and suspended for not following. Why should anyone go along with the BS rules anymore? If people had any self-respect at all they would simply stop complying with this crap. 25 7 3 1 4 9 1 1 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, OZBILLS said: Cut I have changed my mind. Make his life hell with the protocols and get him to walk 1 2 3 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I get both sides of it. He has every right to not get the shot. 21 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, CaptnCoke11 said: I get both sides of it. He has every right to not get the shot. Deciding not to get vaccinated is not the issue here 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Process said: He is publicly stating that he will be completely disregarding covid protocols. Meaning he will likely be spending the whole season getting fined/suspended, while being a huge distraction to the team. I don't see any reason to keep him if that's the case, and I can't see the Bills having any issues. If you don't want to spend 5 minutes getting a vaccine, follow protocols. If you refuse to follow protocols then get lost. You just know the minute we cut him, he goes to NE and Belichick publicly vaccinates an enlightened Cole! Edited June 18, 2021 by OZBILLS 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Process said: He is publicly stating that he will be completely disregarding covid protocols. Meaning he will likely be spending the whole season getting fined/suspended, while being a huge distraction to the team. I don't see any reason to keep him if that's the case, and I can't see the Bills having any issues. If you don't want to spend 5 minutes getting a vaccine, follow protocols. If you refuse to follow protocols then get lost. Plus he's throwing the leadership (JOSH ALLEN!) and team under the bus by continuing to talk about it outside of the locker room 11 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) Got to respect a man who speaks his mind and stands by his principals. Good for Cole. Edited June 18, 2021 by wppete 18 1 2 3 2 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I get both sides of it. He has every right to not get the shot. Then you have to follow the protocols to protect you and your teammates and the staff at the facility. There really isn't a both sides to this situation. Players are not mandated to get the vaccine but if they choose not to they will have to undergo a more strict process in regards to distancing and daily testing. Seems like a fair way to keep the players choices intact but also protect them. If Cole is a baby and wants it both ways that's on him. I love Cole but he has to realize he has three choices. Get a vaccine, continue the protocols or retire. If the protocols designed to keep him and his teammates safe are too much for him then he has the right to retire. 14 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, OZBILLS said: You just know the minute we cut him, he goes to NE and Belichick publicly vaccinates an enlightened Cole! And Cam Newton throws it 6 feet over Cole's head into the arms of Jordan Poyer, who might have the same opinion as Cole, but is mature enough to respect the team leaders who want it kept in the locker room. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Isn't more than 50 % of the team unvaccinated? Where are the rest of the players to back him up on this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: Why should anyone go along with the BS rules anymore? If people had any self-respect at all they would simply stop complying with this crap. That's completely beside the point. Let's not turn this into a vaccination vs. anti-vaccination debate. The point is - the NFL has the rules in place where you follow them or you're fined and suspended. Cole has stated he will habitually not follow the rules. Ergo - one of our best players WILL be suspended regularly and may retire. If the rules change, then that's a different story. But as they are, this is a problem. 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 In other news: The Bills are currently incredibly deep at wide receiver. 13 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, Klaista2k said: Isn't more than 50 % of the team unvaccinated? Where are the rest of the players to back him up on this? Respecting the leaders of the team who said it would be kept in the locker room. This ain't hard. Cole went rogue 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wppete said: Got to respect a man who speaks his mind and stands by his principals. Good for Cole. The Westboro Baptist Church speaks their minds and stands by their principals do you have to respect them? If your principals are garbage you standing by them makes no difference to the merit of your argument. To clarify not necessarily saying that Cole's principals (which are dubious) are equivalent to the WBC but rather just standing by something add no value to it. Edited June 18, 2021 by billsfan89 11 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I feel like I called this... twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, wppete said: Got to respect a man who speaks his mind and stands by his principals. Good for Cole. Hes a modern day Kaepernick. 2 1 3 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: Isn't more than 50 % of the team unvaccinated? Where are the rest of the players to back him up on this? At last report , the Bills were one of the teams over 50% and climbing every day. Only a handful of teams are under that 50% mark (Jags, Colts, Chargers) Just now, Jauronimo said: Hes a modern day Kaepernick. He said STANDS for principals. That's why he doesnt have a problem with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 If the league has chosen to continue with the protocols this year, then the voluntary "opt-out" option should continue, as well. If Cole isn't comfortable with this situation, he can sit out the year, same rules as last year. But let's get one thing straight. He doesn't get a Super Bowl ring. 4 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: If the league has chosen to continue with the protocols this year, then the voluntary "opt-out" option should continue, as well. If Cole isn't comfortable with this situation, he can sit out the year, same rules as last year. But let's get one thing straight. He doesn't get a Super Bowl ring. They may actually provide an opt out option this year. It’s still on the table but based on beasely’s comments he wants to play. He’s fighting for looser restrictions on those who choose not to get the vaccine. He believes the line that was drawn is too hard. Edited June 18, 2021 by YoloinOhio 5 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, wppete said: Got to respect a man who speaks his mind and stands by his principals. Good for Cole. Lmao. You don't automatically get respect for speaking your mind. You don't get respect when what's on your mind is complete nonsense, and you are acting like a clown, like Cole is. 24 2 1 3 1 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, YoloinOhio said: They may actually provide an opt out option this year. It’s still on the table How long until the unvaccinated can be as normal with teams? Surely that will last more than a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 The "mob" coming after Beasley because he spoke his mind. 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Cole Beasley tripping. Get it don't or don't get it. You just know he's about to write a song about this. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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