chongli Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) Uh oh!! The NFL had better be scared! 😅 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/usfl-set-to-return-in-spring-2022-after-being-shut-down-in-mid-1980s-original-team-names-will-remain/ "USFL set to return in spring 2022 after being shut down in mid-1980s, original team names will remain The league folded back in 1986 after a three-year run" Excerpt: "The United States Football League was the most popular spring league in football, emerging as a viable competitor to the NFL in the early to mid-1980s. Nearly 40 years later, the USFL is planning to make a major comeback. The USFL announced its re-emergence Thursday with a return in the spring of 2022. The league plans a minimum of eight teams for its first season and will retain rights to key original team names -- like the New Jersey Generals, Philadelphia/Baltimore Stars. Memphis Showboats and Los Angeles Express. [...] More information on the USFL, including cities, teams, head coaches, and game schedules, will be announced at a later date. Fox Sports will serve as the broadcast partner for the league. " Edited June 3, 2021 by chongli 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Zay Jones has a chance to be a solid #3 in this league. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Zay Jones has a chance to be a solid #3 in this league. Nate Peterman will probably start, along with Tim Tebow as tight end! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Just another waste of time league that will fold in short order. USFL was never innovative- it was previously well funded to get stars. This will be another league of alsorans. Basically Fox needs something to cover in the spring without Baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Keep Trump very far away from this league. 6 3 1 1 10 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Also didn't THE ROCK buy the XFL and he is trying to get that league started again. To me its a waste of time. There are two football leagues that matter and that's the NFL and CFB. Nothing else will work. P.S. Nobody cares about the CFL. Any league that has a 55 yard line is to be laughed at and not taken seriously. Also that is Canada not America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 It’s only chance of survival is if it turns into a feeder league for the NFL, otherwise it will need very deep pockets for at minimum a decade, to establish itself as a separate football entity, that I don’t see happening, but hey, more power to them, if the pockets are deep enough, they could get some better level talent to sign with them..., maybe..., 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: Keep Trump very far away from this league. He is know for his stream of bankruptcies, also appears he has an issue with paying for service he contracts for, so... why not do it all again, 😂 Edited June 3, 2021 by Don Otreply 2 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Well that certainly came out of nowhere. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Just another waste of time league that will fold in short order. USFL was never innovative- it was previously well funded to get stars. This will be another league of alsorans. Basically Fox needs something to cover in the spring without Baseball. USFL had some fun rules like the action point. But spring football has always been that good on paper idea that has not worked since the 1980's when the USFL had some traction with it but never got to where it was viable long term. The new XFL I thought was going to maybe get off the ground but the pandemic derailed any chance of success it had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31559189/usfl-relaunching-spring-2022-least-eight-teams "The USFL's return could result in two pro leagues playing football in the spring. The XFL has been targeting a 2022 resumption of play after owners Dany Garcia, Dwayne Johnson and RedBird Capital Partners purchased the league out of bankruptcy in 2020. Planning for the XFL's 2022 season has been on pause since March, when it entered into negotiations regarding a collaboration with the Canadian Football League." Ought to be quite an interesting spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TBBills Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I didn't watch a single game b.c honestly it's a bunch of failures that couldn't make the real game. It's like watching division 3 football... You only watch b.c someone you know personally is playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 i think money would be put to better use if you just drove down the road and threw it out the window. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: USFL had some fun rules like the action point. But spring football has always been that good on paper idea that has not worked since the 1980's when the USFL had some traction with it but never got to where it was viable long term. The new XFL I thought was going to maybe get off the ground but the pandemic derailed any chance of success it had. I actually had fun as a kid in the 80's following the USFL. Not happy that Joe Cribbs left Buffalo for them and Jim Kelly went there instead of to Buffalo, but I was glad for their success. My Social Studies teacher at the time flipped a lid when Steve Young signed a $40 million contract the LA Express, the highest at that time. But can you blame him for not going to the Bengals, lol? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/flashback-steve-youngs-43-year-40-million-usfl-contract/ "The billionaire owner of the USFL's LA Express, J. William Oldenberg, lured Young to the new league by basically offering him a four-year, $40 million contract that would be payable over 43 years. Young's other choice was to go No. 1 overall in the 1984 NFL Draft to the Cincinnati Bengals, but the Bengals were only offering him $3.5 million, according to a Sports Illustrated article from March 1984. The $3.5 million wasn't even guaranteed -- Young would get a $1 million signing bonus and a five-year nonguaranteed contract at $500,000 per year." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Kelly moving out of Buffalo and heading back to Houston to support the Gamblers lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, teef said: i think money would be put to better use if you just drove down the road and threw it out the window. That's littering and would result in a fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: That's littering and would result in a fine. That is fine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: USFL had some fun rules like the action point. But spring football has always been that good on paper idea that has not worked since the 1980's when the USFL had some traction with it but never got to where it was viable long term. The new XFL I thought was going to maybe get off the ground but the pandemic derailed any chance of success it had. I was enjoying the XFL honestly. It was far more entertaining than that AAF league. Rule changes were mostly kinda neat. At the end of the day though 2 leagues is going to end up being 0 leagues unless one does compensation more effectively. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: USFL was never innovative Technically, very incorrect. The 2 point conversion. Allowing coaches to challenge an officials call. Utlitized a "salary cap". All things the NFL later adopted and have GREATLY impacted the game. Also the first professional usage of the "run and shoot" that was a harbinger of modern pro passing attacks. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: That's littering and would result in a fine. listen...you just need to stick to arguing with badolbilz. it's wildly entertaining to me. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 31 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: It’s only chance of survival is if it turns into a feeder league for the NFL, otherwise it will need very deep pockets for at minimum a decade, to establish itself as a separate football entity, that I don’t see happening, but hey, more power to them, if the pockets are deep enough, they could get some better level talent to sign with them..., maybe..., The USFL was actually good to Buffalo in that regard. Jim Kelly, Doug Flutie, Kent Hull, Scott Norwood, Ray Bentley, Dwight Drane, and others all played there first. Bill Polian, Marv Levy, and John Butler also were there before Buffalo. https://www.espn.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/4953/remembering-how-useful-the-usfl-was-to-buffalo "Bills fans despised the USFL for harboring Kelly and luring away star running back Joe Cribbs, yet no other team benefited more from the USFL than the Bills did. The man who built their Super Bowl teams (Bill Polian), his eventual replacement (John Butler) and the man who coached them (Marv Levy) all came from the Chicago Blitz. Three-time Pro Bowl center Kent Hull was undrafted out of college, but proved himself with the New Jersey Generals. [...] Polian wouldn't have gotten his break when he did. Somebody else would've needed to make selections such as Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed and Shane Conlan. Without the USFL, enough variables would have altered Bills history that they wouldn't have gone to four consecutive Super Bowls. And it's safe to say one other memorable event wouldn't have occurred. Birmingham Stallions kicker Scott Norwood probably wouldn't have made it to the NFL either." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, teef said: listen...you just need to stick to arguing with badolbilz. it's wildly entertaining to me. I'd rather argue with the guy from BBMB that said NFL coaching was easy and that anyone can do it. Remember him? At least he was genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, teef said: i think money would be put to better use if you just drove down the road and threw it out the window. But that's littering and the USFL is more about showing off garbage on national TV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'd rather argue with the guy from BBMB that said NFL coaching was easy and that anyone can do it. Remember him? At least he was genuine. was that the same guy that said finding a starting qb was easy, and that the bills should trade every pick they had that year to get jameis winston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 So does Whaley jump or does he stick with the XFL? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, chongli said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31559189/usfl-relaunching-spring-2022-least-eight-teams "The USFL's return could result in two pro leagues playing football in the spring. The XFL has been targeting a 2022 resumption of play after owners Dany Garcia, Dwayne Johnson and RedBird Capital Partners purchased the league out of bankruptcy in 2020. Planning for the XFL's 2022 season has been on pause since March, when it entered into negotiations regarding a collaboration with the Canadian Football League." Ought to be quite an interesting spring. It'd make sense for all those millionaires with apparently cash to burn, to combine the three ideas into one, where you could have football in both the US and Canada. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rico said: So does Whaley jump or does he stick with the XFL? Haha, good question. According to his linkedin page, he is no longer with the XFL and is now the managing partner at Beautiful Game Group, LLC: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougwhaley "Beautiful Game Group LLC 1 year 2 months Managing Partner May 2020 - Present 1 year 2 months COO and Managing Partner May 2020 - May 2020 1 month Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States Beautiful Game Group LLC is a modern private equity company, that intends to invest in a network of professional sports teams across a variety of global growth sports. We intend to invest in soccer, basketball, eSports, cycling and rugby teams, employing extensive industry knowledge and research, to seek to achieve sustained sporting success and enhancing brand value, with social responsibility at our core." Edited June 3, 2021 by chongli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rico said: So does Whaley jump or does he stick with the XFL? Hard to say Rico. I'm sure his phone is ringing off the hook every day with multiple offers. He is just taking a long time to decide. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, teef said: was that the same guy that said finding a starting qb was easy, and that the bills should trade every pick they had that year to get jameis winston? I think that was Jrober. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 https://www.beautifulgamegroup.com/team I wonder if he invested in EJ Manuel stock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think that was Jrober. ohhhh. good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Technically, very incorrect. The 2 point conversion. Allowing coaches to challenge an officials call. Utlitized a "salary cap". All things the NFL later adopted and have GREATLY impacted the game. Also the first professional usage of the "run and shoot" that was a harbinger of modern pro passing attacks. The “salary Cap” is a major reason they folded since teams did not abide by the cap in an effort to sign players like Herschel Walker - who was paid 3x more than the Cap. The 2 point conversion was already part of college football - well before the USFL and was one of several college rules that the USFL adopted - similar to stopping the clock after the 2 minute warning with a first down. Not a USFL innovation. They did allow coaches to challenge calls - so yes - highly innovative. They did allow the run and shoot to start, but again that was due to coaching - not really anything the league did. It is not like the old AFL that changed the football size and texture to allow better passing or something. The USFL did not put any emphasis on passing and really tried to highlight the RBs because they were so limited in talented QB play. I would not call really any rules put in place as innovative. Their goal was to as closely as possible merge NFL and college rules. I stand by my statement - it really was not very innovative as a league, but it did allow some coaches from college, NFL, and Canada to get a head coaching job and try some things they were running other places. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Matt Barkley will be a Superstar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieLeaks48 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) I loved the original USFL. Was it on par with the NFL? No, but it did feature the fun of "Bandit Ball" and Steve Spurrier down in Tampa Bay, a pretty solid Philadelphia Stars team, and Bobby Hebert (among others like Sam Mills, Ray Bentley, Kent Hull, etc.) the chance to learn and grow into a pretty good NFL QB - an opportunity that I doubt he'd have had without the upstart league. I think a feeder concept, like NFL Europe was, would benefit the NFL. How many players get drafted into a system that doesn't really fit their talents? How many get drafted only to find that GM/Coach fired soon after and a new regime installed that wants to clean house? How many simply need coaching and playing time to become viable players with a chance to make an NFL? How many would love the chance to get paid to play football while trying to chase their dream? America has an insatiable appetite for football. If put together well, with innovations tried out in this league and quality teaching and coaching employed with a tie to the NFL, I think it can work. I'll be watching ... hope they bring the Oakland Invaders back. Sweet uniforms! Edited June 3, 2021 by RosieLeaks48 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, RosieLeaks48 said: hope they bring the Oakland Invaders back. Sweet uniforms! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I'd rather see NFL Europe come back. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Man i dunno why its so hard to get behind this! zzzzzzzzits spring football. Not trying to cut into NFL time. Alot of us watch college, it s going to be alot of guys were familiar with. Ill tune in and support any supplementary football i can get 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: The “salary Cap” is a major reason they folded since teams did not abide by the cap in an effort to sign players like Herschel Walker - who was paid 3x more than the Cap. Has nothing to do with it not being "innovative". And being the first pro league to do something qualifies as innovative. The salary cap was something new to pro football that would later become the modern way to keep and actually expand parity in pro football as the players inevitably gained more freedom of movement (the USFL also hastened free agency in the NFL and greatly increased player salaries which brought more talented athletes to the sport). All those things elevated the popularity of the sport (and without a salary cap Buffalo doesn't even have a team). The AFL was innovative as well........but in the grand scheme I'd suggest the financial aspects driven by the USFL are bigger than changing the texture of the football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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