Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: It's sad all around, and I agree with those who say you can't say it's Andy Reid's fault. This guy is not a "kid." He's in his mid-30's for crying out loud. Andy is trying to give him a structured environment and a career option so that he can get himself together. I can't fault Andy Reid for this. That said, Britt has seriously injured a child, likely cost his father a legacy defining win, hurt his father's reputation, cost his players (who look to him as a coach for leadership) a title, and ruined a solid and well-paying career due to his actions. I don't agree with or like the rush to judgement on Andy Reid as being a "bad father" or "enabling" his son. Anyone who has dealt with someone who is addicted to drugs or alcohol understands how powerful and destructive both can be. There is no "magic fix" like "if he just was around more" or "if he just disciplined them more." It doesn't work that way. Whoa whoa whoa aren't we getting ahead of ourselves a bit here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Whoa whoa whoa aren't we getting ahead of ourselves a bit here? I honestly don't think so. We'll see, but I feel badly for Mahomes. The guy is following Brady's methods for prep, focus, and diet (he has even said that he wants to play into his 40's like Brady and is following many of TB12's methods) and this idiot coach creates a massive problem right before the Super Bowl. It certainly doesn't help the Chiefs. I think it's going to throw them off their game, while TB is quiet, focused, and ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said: You're making BADOBILZ point for him/her. There is no way that traffic to the game averages less than two attendees per vehicle. Have you ever attended a game - seen the traffic? Vehicles easily average 2+ per. I will guess (11 year season ticket holder, so observational knowledge) a three per car average with a significant number of buses. So, let's half your estimate and liberally say 20,000 vehicles. My guess is yes, you are really bad at math. Considering carpooling (even with strangers) to cut down on parking costs, and designated drivers/people who just don't drink, I bet it's well lower than 20k driving with a beer in their system. And what kind of grown ass adult can't handle one beer? I'm not even much of a drinker at all and not huge, and I don't feel the slightest hint of a buzz or whatever after we hang out and have a cold one after the game while we wait for traffic to clear a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: I honestly don't think so. We'll see, but I feel badly for Mahomes. The guy is following Brady's methods for prep, focus, and diet (he has even said that he wants to play into his 40's like Brady and is following many of TB12's methods) and this idiot coach creates a massive problem right before the Super Bowl. It certainly doesn't help the Chiefs. I think it's going to throw them off their game, while TB is quiet, focused, and ready. It might help the Chiefs. Sometimes adversity brings the team together and increases their focus to, as I somewhat meanly quipped, "Win One for the Walrus" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It might help the Chiefs. Sometimes adversity brings the team together and increases their focus to, as I somewhat meanly quipped, "Win One for the Walrus" It could... Especially because Andy Reid had nothing to do with what happened, yet he will get criticism from many because it was his "kid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, TheFunPolice said: It could... Especially because Andy Reid had nothing to do with what happened, yet he will get criticism from many because it was his "kid." Yes his 35 year old kid should get grounded by dad for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Considering carpooling (even with strangers) to cut down on parking costs, and designated drivers/people who just don't drink, I bet it's well lower than 20k driving with a beer in their system. And what kind of grown ass adult can't handle one beer? I'm not even much of a drinker at all and not huge, and I don't feel the slightest hint of a buzz or whatever after we hang out and have a cold one after the game while we wait for traffic to clear a bit. depends on the person and their alcohol tolerance I guess. Back in my teens and early 20s I was buzzed after one (non-light) beer. Now it takes me a few IPAs to get the same buzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: It could... Especially because Andy Reid had nothing to do with what happened, yet he will get criticism from many because it was his "kid." I can't quite go with "nothing to do with what happened". He hired his son to coach LB for him. If one were hiring another employee with a history of DUI and road rage convictions, one might have a good-conduct clause. If the information in the warrant application is correct that ""a computer check revealed ... multiple prior DUI contacts", it sounds as though Britt Reid may have returned to substance-abuse levels of drinking that were attracting traffic violation attention from police. It's possible that all this was being carefully hidden from Andy Reid, but it's also quite possible that the reason they were "contacts" and not "convictions" was because Reid provided money and/or influence to get charges reduced or dismissed for his son. Now his son is 35, married with kids, living in his own house. But the accident occurred on the on-ramp from Arrowhead stadium, meaning in all probability this guy was drinking OTJ at Arrowhead. In instances where I have had a co-worker or a boss who drank on the job, they thought they were being clever drinking vodka or what have you, but we all knew. I think the probabilty is high that Reid knew his son was drinking, or that if he didn't, he was "living by a river in Egypt". 10 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Yes his 35 year old kid should get grounded by dad for this. I agree that the comments this proves Reid was a bad father and should pay more attention to parenting his kids are out of line for a 35 yr old son, but Reid is still his son's employer in a league that values image and prohibits "conduct detrimental to the league" A coach who acknowledges he has been drinking, smashing into a disabled vehicle and the vehicle assisting it on the side of a freeway "on" ramp and severely injuring a 5 yr old child is a pretty big PR black eye for the league if you ask me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Let's be honest here. We would all take Hill on the Bills in a new york minute under the same exact circumstances. Am I right ? I think most would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 13 hours ago, major said: This reminds me of Eugene Robinson, who was arrested for soliciting sex the night before the 1999 Super Bowl. I still believe this distraction was a huge reason the Atlanta falcons lost that super bowl and sadly, I think this incident will be the distraction that causes the chiefs to lose Except these scenarios aren't even close. One is clearly a tragedy, the other...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Now his son is 35, married with kids, living in his own house. But the accident occurred on the on-ramp from Arrowhead stadium, meaning in all probability this guy was drinking OTJ at Arrowhead. In instances where I have had a co-worker or a boss who drank on the job, they thought they were being clever drinking vodka or what have you, but we all knew. Maybe, but there are a couple of dive bars not too far from Arrowhead as well that Reid could've used the same on-ramp after leaving. Truth will come out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 hours ago, SirAndrew said: All true, but did an article say a doctor prescribed the Aderall ? I’m not saying it isn’t possible, I’m just saying he could have gotten it anywhere. Good point. I know in the past that when police raided their house the two sons had a crap ton of prescribed medication along with illegal drugs. I assumed that the reason he disclosed Aderall was because he had a script. If he doesn’t, he’s pretty stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: Maybe, but there are a couple of dive bars not too far from Arrowhead as well that Reid could've used the same on-ramp after leaving. Truth will come out. Fair, but on Thursday at 9 pm prior to the Superbowl, I think the probabilities favor their LB coach was in the facility watching film and knocking back some shots, and that with a history of drunk driving conviction he wouldn't want the possible publicity of being seen drinking in a bar near the stadium. But I acknowledge that's just my take on the issue and it's possible he finished his tasks then went off to "decompress" at a dive bar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I pray for Andy Reid. His kids have been a mess for years. When Reid was in Philly both his kids had hard drug problems (one or both on heroin). Andy may have given Britt a job with the Chiefs to keep an eye on him but the high stress that comes with being an NFL coach can't be good for Britt's demons. I hope Britt gets the help he needs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Fair, but on Thursday at 9 pm prior to the Superbowl, I think the probabilities favor their LB coach was in the facility watching film and knocking back some shots, and that with a history of drunk driving conviction he wouldn't want the possible publicity of being seen drinking in a bar near the stadium. But I acknowledge that's just my take on the issue and it's possible he finished his tasks then went off to "decompress" at a dive bar. You're probably right as I hadn't considered the NFL Covid protocols. My guess is if Reid is to be charged, the police will hold it until Monday as to not disrupt the game any further. Edited February 6, 2021 by Roy Hobbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: It could... Especially because Andy Reid had nothing to do with what happened, yet he will get criticism from many because it was his "kid." his "kid", whom he hired, aware of the road rage incident and prior DUI.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I just checked and the latest I could find was a report from 2 hours ago with no update on the children’s health available. That’s really all I can care about at this point. The rest can come later..... The relief of some good news on the children would be great at this point! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Roy Hobbs said: You're probably right as I hadn't considered the NFL Covid protocols. My guess is if Reid is to be charged, the police will hold it until Monday as to not disrupt the game any further. I could be wrong, but in the Ed Oliver incident it seems like it took several weeks just for the blood alcohol test to come back. Now the actual test can be done in minutes, but apparently for some reason when it involves the police and a potential court case according to @LeviF91 as I recall, it's not unusual for the results to take weeks. So I doubt that Reid will be charged any time soon, but I don't think it will have anything to do with disrupting the game. It's just that the legal system takes its own sweet (or bitter) time. There's also the point that depending upon what happens to the injured child, there may be additional charges. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a copy of the application for search warrant https://fox4kc.com/news/kansas-city-chiefs-coach-britt-reid-under-investigation-in-crash-that-critically-injured-child/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 37 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I could be wrong, but in the Ed Oliver incident it seems like it took several weeks just for the blood alcohol test to come back. Now the actual test can be done in minutes, but apparently for some reason when it involves the police and a potential court case according to @LeviF91 as I recall, it's not unusual for the results to take weeks. So I doubt that Reid will be charged any time soon, but I don't think it will have anything to do with disrupting the game. It's just that the legal system takes its own sweet (or bitter) time. There's also the point that depending upon what happens to the injured child, there may be additional charges. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a copy of the application for search warrant https://fox4kc.com/news/kansas-city-chiefs-coach-britt-reid-under-investigation-in-crash-that-critically-injured-child/ According to the application for search warrant, the officer observed 4 clues of impairment administering the HSN giving him probable cause to arrest on suspicion of driving under the influence. The on-ramp from Stadium Drive to I-435 is two-lane which should have given Reid ample room to pass the two stopped vehicles even if they weren't on the shoulder. So one would guess that Reid would've been arrested on the spot had he not been injured in the crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Augie said: I just checked and the latest I could find was a report from 2 hours ago with no update on the children’s health available. That’s really all I can care about at this point. The rest can come later..... The relief of some good news on the children would be great at this point! Since the injuries are described as life threatening, depending upon specifics it could be a week or weeks before we know if he's out of danger and months before we know what the permanent impairment will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Since the injuries are described as life threatening, depending upon specifics it could be a week or weeks before we know if he's out of danger and months before we know what the permanent impairment will be. https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/family-creates-gofundme-campaign-for-child-injured-in-crash-involving-chiefs-britt-reid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/family-creates-gofundme-campaign-for-child-injured-in-crash-involving-chiefs-britt-reid Geesh, head trauma and a subdural bleed. Not good. I'm all for helping these people but the people who should be donating Big Time are Britt Reid and the KC Chiefs organization Anyone know how to contact them? They don't have to put their names on it but there should be a couple of anonymous $20k donations just to make sure this family isn't having to choose between being at their child's bedside or making the rent. OK, I just went tohttps://www.chiefs.com/stadium/fanexperience, clicked "Have a Representative Contact You" and asked why there aren't major donations from Coach Reid and Coach Britt Reid and other Chiefs to the GoFundMe of the precious little girl who was left critically injured with brain swelling when Coach Britt Reid drove into her car, because that family should not be left hanging while things get sorted. If anyone has a better idea I'll do that too. The Gofundme is in the above link from Roy Hobbs 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 This is nothing. Look at what Tyreek Hill did and nobody in KC seems to care 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Geesh, head trauma and a subdural bleed. Not good. I'm all for helping these people but the people who should be donating Big Time are Britt Reid and the KC Chiefs organization Anyone know how to contact them? They don't have to put their names on it but there should be a couple of anonymous $20k donations just to make sure this family isn't having to choose between being at their child's bedside or making the rent. OK, I just went tohttps://www.chiefs.com/stadium/fanexperience, clicked "Have a Representative Contact You" and asked why there aren't major donations from Coach Reid and Coach Britt Reid and other Chiefs to the GoFundMe of the precious little girl who was left critically injured with brain swelling when Coach Britt Reid drove into her car, because that family should not be left hanging while things get sorted. If anyone has a better idea I'll do that too. The Gofundme is in the above link from Roy Hobbs Reid will be paying that family a lot of money one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, krf139 said: This is nothing. Look at what Tyreek Hill did and nobody in KC seems to care They believe that the girlfriend made it all up. Edited February 6, 2021 by chknwing334 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: It could... Especially because Andy Reid had nothing to do with what happened, yet he will get criticism from many because it was his "kid." Yeah the way kids are raised has nothing to do with how they turn out or what kind of adults they become. Britt just raised himself from birth. Gimme a break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 5 hours ago, chknwing334 said: Is there any proof of this statement? I looked and did not find anything other than that he applied for custody. I'm not saying it isn't true, but I would think it would be easier to find if it was true. A lot of this sounds similar to when we had to listen to the Patriots*** fans explain how the cheating was just a misunderstanding. One of my favorites was that Brady called the equipment guy "the deflator" because he lost a lot of weight recently. Well...you are certainly right that google search doens't help.... I have heard local radio guys in KC say it several times....like many details of that story...not alot was said about the conlcusion of the whole thing once all the initial reports came out. I'll look at this more when I have time and see if I can find something defintive that backs up what I am saying here. 35 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Geesh, head trauma and a subdural bleed. Not good. I'm all for helping these people but the people who should be donating Big Time are Britt Reid and the KC Chiefs organization Anyone know how to contact them? They don't have to put their names on it but there should be a couple of anonymous $20k donations just to make sure this family isn't having to choose between being at their child's bedside or making the rent. OK, I just went tohttps://www.chiefs.com/stadium/fanexperience, clicked "Have a Representative Contact You" and asked why there aren't major donations from Coach Reid and Coach Britt Reid and other Chiefs to the GoFundMe of the precious little girl who was left critically injured with brain swelling when Coach Britt Reid drove into her car, because that family should not be left hanging while things get sorted. If anyone has a better idea I'll do that too. The Gofundme is in the above link from Roy Hobbs I've been on twitter demanding the same thing....The Chiefs...the Rieds...do it through surrogates if need be for legal reasons...whatever....no reason this shouldn't be handled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, krf139 said: This is nothing. Look at what Tyreek Hill did and nobody in KC seems to care Did he seriously injure a child where they are going to very much suffer the rest of their life minimum, be on life support and/or could die? This is nothing? You SERIOUSLY need to reevaluate your soul. Edited February 6, 2021 by EasternOHBillsFan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: Well...you are certainly right that google search doens't help.... I have heard local radio guys in KC say it several times....like many details of that story...not alot was said about the conlcusion of the whole thing once all the initial reports came out. I'll look at this more when I have time and see if I can find something defintive that backs up what I am saying here. If your local radio guys are anything like ours, I wouldn’t trust that they have their facts straight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 51 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Reid will be paying that family a lot of money one way or the other. Very true, but in the meantime they probably need help NOW. This is so sad. People who run out of gas are rarely traveling in lofty socio-economic circles. As @Hapless Bills Fan said, they probably have immediate needs, like rent. Money will never make this alright, but I hope they can get by while their kids fully recover. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 From what I know about addiction, if you’re a recovering drug addict, it isn’t recommended that you drink at all. Addicts with often replace their addiction to drugs with alcohol or prescription meds etc. Most aren’t able to casually drink a beer or two without it turning into something more. So we’re people close to him cool that he was drinking? Or did he hide it? Also if he had a prescription to Aderall as he said - why would his doctor prescribe a drug used for recreational purposes to someone with a past of substance abuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, JohnNord said: From what I know about addiction, if you’re a recovering drug addict, it isn’t recommended that you drink at all. Addicts with often replace their addiction to drugs with alcohol or prescription meds etc. Most aren’t able to casually drink a beer or two without it turning into something more. So we’re people close to him cool that he was drinking? Or did he hide it? Also if he had a prescription to Aderall as he said - why would his doctor prescribe a drug used for recreational purposes to someone with a past of substance abuse? I believe Britt Reid was diagnosed with ADHD and Adderall is used to treat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 38 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Also if he had a prescription to Aderall as he said - why would his doctor prescribe a drug used for recreational purposes to someone with a past of substance abuse? Because there are a lot of soulless doctors who will do anything for the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 It's a weird thing being a parent. Andy Reid seems like a good guy and a good coach. I'm not sure how many kids he has, but at least two of them seem to have/had some series issues. Who knows what's going on behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 7:45 PM, 4merper4mer said: Prayers for the five year old and family. Without commenting specifically on Reid, I’ll just share my opinion that driving after having even one adult beverage is astoundingly selfish. You're entitled to your opinion, but not everyone who goes out to dinner and has a drink is a menace to society. All things in moderation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Reid will be paying that family a lot of money one way or the other. The problem is if she’s a typical single working mom of three, how is she gonna pay the hospital bills which can be thousands even with decent insurance, and her rent if her job doesn’t give her paid time off to sit with her critically injured kid in the hospital. It took us more than a year to get our insurance settlement after an inattentive driver ran a red light, smashed my daughters car right where I was sitting, and sent me to the neuro unit with a subdural bleed. We have savings and we had another car plus we own our house. Most working single parents not in that situation 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: You're entitled to your opinion, but not everyone who goes out to dinner and has a drink is a menace to society. All things in moderation. I never said they were a menace to society; I said their act was selfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Well...you are certainly right that google search doens't help.... I have heard local radio guys in KC say it several times....like many details of that story...not alot was said about the conlcusion of the whole thing once all the initial reports came out. I'll look at this more when I have time and see if I can find something defintive that backs up what I am saying here. I've been on twitter demanding the same thing....The Chiefs...the Rieds...do it through surrogates if need be for legal reasons...whatever....no reason this shouldn't be handled. Right, anonymous donations if need be but don’t let the girl & family have to worry about bill collectors or evictions or lack for care insurance doesn’t cover while things get sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The problem is if she’s a typical single working mom of three, how is she gonna pay the hospital bills which can be thousands even with decent insurance, and her rent if her job doesn’t give her paid time off to sit with her critically injured kid in the hospital. It took us more than a year to get our insurance settlement after an inattentive driver ran a red light, smashed my daughters car right where I was sitting, and sent me to the neuro unit with a subdural bleed. We have savings and we had another car plus we own our house. Most working single parents not in that situation Agree completely. My hope for her is that the hospital in this situation will just file a bunch of liens for the expenses that will be collected as part of her recovery again Reid. I could be wrong, but Reid is probably worried about criminal charges and a huge civil lawsuit— so seems likely he will be laying low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: It's a weird thing being a parent. Andy Reid seems like a good guy and a good coach. I'm not sure how many kids he has, but at least two of them seem to have/had some series issues. Who knows what's going on behind the scenes. He has 5 kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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